NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me who are better owners, and not in the oil billionaire, oligarch bracket.

I've asked this question a few times, so I doubt I'll get a reply.

It seems it's a lot easier to just piss and moan, with the inevitable and rather silly "net spend" argument now in play.

Just to recap, not only have we built a trophy winning team, we've done it while expanding the stadium and building a new training complex.

So, tell me, where are these mythical better owners, who are not  oil billionaires or oligarchs?

But Brighton have a bigger net spend than us - surely that’s more important?

But that's like asking what other manager would be successful under this system (to Klopps extent)

Impossible to answer

Like I said earlier I (and I think HTM) think they're ok, not bad whatsoever, but we cant expect slightly more? That so outlandish?

I believe like me HTM is a season ticket holder, weput a hell of a lot of money ought of our pockets into the club each season, we arent saying they're sh*te whatsoever but everyone is banging on about putting their own money in, but they got the bargain of the year at 350m when they brought it and will make 2billion out of the club once they come to sell it, down to their fantastic work off the field.. Yes covid has come out of nowhere but we have won the CL and league in the last years and yet we cant find money really over the last two summers to strengthen whilst on top?

Its literally pointless to ask us to name new owners

In fact I'm not asking for these to even go

What you are saying, for me, is distinct from the other FSG critics here

You have already posted that.. and you didnt finish the second time

Meds Stuey
Meds

You said Klopp takes a break every 7 years

When in fact he doesnt
No argument here, you're just a bit of an odd ball

He did with two previous clubs - fact.
You choose to ignore fact and resort to personal comment yet again, no concrete agenda and no credibility.

But that's like asking what other manager would be successful under this system (to Klopps extent)

Impossible to answer

Like I said earlier I (and I think HTM) think they're ok, not bad whatsoever, but we cant expect slightly more? That so outlandish?

I believe like me HTM is a season ticket holder, weput a hell of a lot of money ought of our pockets into the club each season, we arent saying they're sh*te whatsoever but everyone is banging on about putting their own money in, but they got the bargain of the year at 350m when they brought it and will make 2billion out of the club once they come to sell it, down to their fantastic work off the field.. Yes covid has come out of nowhere but we have won the CL and league in the last years and yet we cant find money really over the last two summers to strengthen whilst on top?

Its literally pointless to ask us to name new owners

In fact I'm not asking for these to even go

The accounts in the club are clear though - we made a small profit last year and we i suspect were due to make a profit this year that the manager would have used to purchase players

But the club is imo being cautious right now in terms of the money because of the unknowns of when fans etc will be able to go back - and how our finances will be affected overall

We still spend over £500mil in outgoings

He did with two previous clubs - fact.
You choose to ignore fact and resort to personal comment yet again, no concrete agenda and no credibility.

He took one break after Dortmund I believe it was

Mate, you are ruining everybody's fun here. 

I expect a period of silence and then the cycle of complaint against the owners to reboot afterward

Yeah, fancy expecting an answer to a reasonable question

The accounts in the club are clear though - we made a small profit last year and we i suspect were due to make a profit this year that the manager would have used to purchase players

But the club is imo being cautious right now in terms of the money because of the unknowns of when fans etc will be able to go back - and how our finances will be affected overall

We still spend over £500mil in outgoings

Our wage bill is approaching 60% of turnover, which is getting to the point of being a bit too high.

The net spend argument is also bollocks.

It's like constantly upgrading your car from a Ford Escort to a Ferrari, and then someone telling you you only spent 20k on it, because that's all you spent on the final upgrade.

Absolutely potty.

Still anything to have a whinge I suppose.

Can someone please just clarify where they want the extra money to come from ?

Depends if you can keep any of the cars you like on the way up or have to sell them to eventually afford the Ferrari

I dont understand why everything is so black and white, I dont think we are simply whinging, not at all, fairly measured if you ask me

I'll never want to be accused of accepting things blindly and not questioning things

You're perfectly happy with the owners, you think they're great..sound no issue

I'm not unhappy whatsoever, I just consistently strive for more.

Neither of us are asking them to sell up

See there mate, is the very same thing you told another poster off for.
Quite rightly I might add.

Bit hypocritical to do the same to me, no?

The "net spend" argument has always been bollocks, and always will be.
It's nonsense.
Why would you keep buying cars until you get the one you want, rather than upgrading, unless you are a car collector?

Do you want to collect players for the sake of having them?
Players have been sold because they wanted to move, or because they weren't good enough.
That money then goes on other players to improve the team, and the squad.
There's a finite amount of money, and as I said, wages are getting towards 60% of turnover, and that's dangerous territory. You either increase your turnover (something we've done in the past) or you trim the squad, or you carry on regardless and do a Leeds.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me who these "better owners" are, if ours are just OK.
Do you want us to be a rich oil billionaires plaything?
Maybe we could get a Russian crime syndicate to launder their drug money through us?

You brought the car analogy into it when to be honest it's not relevant to football

You need more than one good footballer,the more you have the better you will be

Anyway this is pointless. You love them, I think they're ok

Wont agree will we so best to leave it, agree to disagree. Understand there are sometimes shades of grey

F**k off with that sh*te fella.

Bang out of order after you accusing someone else of doing the same to you.

Basically, you can't counter any of the points I made, so you resort to that sh*t.

So simple for me

They fu**ed up with the tickets

fu**ed up with the furlough

I don’t think they should have given the job to Kenny or Rodgers but got it right with Klopp

He has spent £400mil , the money has been used well with some great purchases - the manager has set the team up to win , they add to the squad each year , sometimes small and mainly back up

What is it that people want them to do ? Spend their own money on players because the club is being sensible at the moment ?

Well you're not objective about them whatsoever, you never have been and when people question them you become ultra defensive

There is a difference between someone saying I love them with my consistent posting history regarding them and someone doing the same to you with yours

🤷‍♂️

I've given my reasons but you dont like that so you hand out more obtuse questions

Like I say, we obviously wont agree on them and I'm comfortable with that👍

I don't become defensive at all.

I post facts and ask reasonable questions.

Again, a very reasonable question, which you can't answer is; "If FSG are only OK, where are all the brilliant owners"
Given your assertion that they are just "OK", you should have no trouble pointing ouut where all the brilliant owners are, who are not oil billionaires or dodgy Russians.

Now, because you have no answer to a reasonable question, you revert to type and start throwing sh*t out, which only shows just how F***ing childish you are.

Don't bother answering, you're going on ignore.
Different views are all well and good, but I have no time for this childish crap you post every time you can't get your own way.

Maybe we could get a Russian crime syndicate to launder their drug money through us?

I'm right on board with this. Sounds cool as F**k

I'm right on board with this. Sounds cool as F**k

We'll swap for some Mexican Cartel.

We can hang tories, grasses and mancs from the Runcorn Bridge

No he didnt, not fact. Simply nonsense

2001-2008 Mainz
2008-2015 B. Dortmund

7  years at each club - fact.

He took one break after Dortmund I believe it was

See below.

No break

Fact

If you had said he does 7 years at a club then that would be sound

But you didnt

A break from managing one club to the next.
In essence he no doubt got in some rest time between clubs.

He did infer that he might give up football altogether at the end of his LFC contract.

2001-2008 Mainz
2008-2015 B. Dortmund

7  years at each club - fact.

So you mean he stays at a club for 7 years then moves on ?

I don’t believe it’s a deliberate time scale more coincidental

😂 but that's not what you said Stuey, you said he takes a break

If you had said he tends to stay at a club 7 years and let's not hope he keeps up that trend here then sound.. but you didnt

He also said he talks a lot of sh*t at times (re transfers).. that's something you have a common with the great man I guess 😉

All a question of interpretation, you have tried to convince that your interpretation is correct but I know what I meant.
Another misinterpretation could be that Klopp takes a seven year break after every job, again I know what I meant and once more some personnel comment by yourself to divert from an error of judgement.
If I may say it really is a bad reflection on yourself to persist with this girly tantrum.

So you mean he stays at a club for 7 years then moves on ?

I don’t believe it’s a deliberate time scale more coincidental

Jesus this is F***ing tiresome.
In an earlier comment I said the same thing!!
Keep up ffs.

😂 but that's not what you said Stuey, you said he takes a break

If you had said he tends to stay at a club 7 years and let's not hope he keeps up that trend here then sound.. but you didnt

He also said he talks a lot of sh*t at times (re transfers).. that's something you have a common with the great man I guess 😉

Remember when you went by another name and was sound?

Haven't we always kind of bought when we sold though to a certain extent?

And didn't FSG make it very clear when they bought us that that would broadly be their policy?

For me if the club is running well and we are getting the success on the pitch then I've no real issue with transfer policy at the moment.

Jesus this is f**king tiresome.
In an earlier comment I said the same thing!!
Keep up ffs.

Sorry I don’t understand what the issue is ? Klopp will be with us for longer that 7 years ?