NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Personally the net spend doesn't bother me. They have by hook or by crook assembled a great squad of players. The issue has been a total lack of urgency in responding to a crisis. We have 0 recognised centre halves.

We have heard some real nonsense this window some of it sadly Jürgen has had to come out with himself. But in between that stuff I think he has made it clear to all of us that his preference was to sign a centre back but theres been issue taken by people above him.

Its been great winning trophies, and doing it with some cheap signings too. The outlay if anything gives them even more credit for the squad we have.

But f**k me they have dithered and delayed this window. Buried their heads in the sand hoping Joel Matip would stay fit    (A spoiler for everyone by the way he gets injured next season too)

So only now that the inevitable has happened do we react. Not good enough.

Its too late im afraid. I'm sure the market is tricky. That only means the ground work should have started 3 months ago, not 3 days.

How do you know what’s gone on behind the scene ? This window has been very quiet for every club - about 3/4 transfers - it’s not the same each year , clubs are not looking to bring players in.

We have two recognised CB’s at the moment with Phillips and Williams

Why do people think the club are doing nothing in background ? Did you say the same in the summer when players hadnt arrived ?

When will people learn to trust the club , learn that they know the squad , the market , the finances better than any of us so are in a far better position to make judgements than us

I support the manager and team not some Investement vehicle and I want them to treat this as a football club which only idiots can’t understand are not like normal investements .

We were one of the biggest clubs in the world before FSG and if they were that good what did they achieve before Klopp? Nothing.........so yes they lucked out with Kloppp and all those things you mention about stadium expansion etc would not have happened if Klopp had not arrived.


Said it before, Klopp has said he needs a CB so FSG should back him, you can carry on making excuses for a multi billion dollar faceless corporate entity.

Who picked Klopp ?

Are you not happy with the team being one of the best in Europe ? The stadium being built up ? The squad being built every year ? The training facilities - it’s all investment into the club for now and the future. How exactly are they not treating it as a football club when everything they do is about improving the football club for the benefit of the team on the pitch

Can you even comprehend where we were before tbe took over ? Can you remember that time when we were bounced out by Northampton, when we dropped to 16th in the league , when we had a team of - Poulsen , Koncheskey etc


FSG have proven themselves to bring success to sports clubs - they did it with Red Sox and now they are doing it with us - why do I need to find excuses ? You are being shown facts that you just ignore to allow you to continue to rant because they don’t act like other owners ?


I’ll ask again - would you prefer Abramovich? Would you prefer the club run like UTD , or maybe you want the oil money ? How about credit with bank loans ?


Have you even listened to what Klopp has said - it’s about getting the right player in , it’s not some football simulator game where it’s easy to pick up a player. Can you even understand the situation in the game right now.

How do you know what’s gone on behind the scene ? This window has been very quiet for every club - about 3/4 transfers - it’s not the same each year , clubs are not looking to bring players in.

We have two recognised CB’s at the moment with Phillips and Williams

Why do people think the club are doing nothing in background ? Did you say the same in the summer when players hadnt arrived ?

When will people learn to trust the club , learn that they know the squad , the market , the finances better than any of us so are in a far better position to make judgements than us

well I did say in the summer we didn't have a full squad until a 4th centre half came in. This was before Jota and Thiago came in. At the time I said we were putting cherries on top of a cake that wasn't yet finished.

The club chose to wing it with 3 centre halves and have had their fingers burnt. Fair enough but that was now a mistake. Especially if this window was so difficult to deal in.

We now find ourselves with 2 days to go and looking at the very corners of the market at players who are free agents or playing soccer in the Mars Bar League.

Its a joke really. We will go in to tomorrow's game with a defense of Henderson and Phillips and we people talk about competing with City? They spent 100 million in that area alone last season.

well I did say in the summer we didn't have a full squad until a 4th centre half came in. This was before Jota and Thiago came in. At the time I said we were putting cherries on top of a cake that wasn't yet finished.

The club chose to

The manager also decided to not bring in a CB because we had options within the squad

We still have one of the best defensive records in the league.  Our issues in the last couple of weeks werent down to the CB partnership. Even if we don’t bring in a CB then I’m pretty confident we will still be challenging for the title all the way until the end of the season

Our issues are at CB because our best midfielders have been playing there. Our whole game had changed. We risk burning 3 points tomorrow due to that position alone. City are pulling away, soon to be away and gone.

I'll admit I was very anti FSG right up until we bought Van Dijk. For me personally it was only then that they showed that they had an interest in the club winning trophies instead of building up the clubs club's resale value.
If it wasn't for our bizarre injury plague this season we  wouldn't even be talking about them again.
The next couple of days will show whether they are happy to try and get a top 4 spot, and buy in the summer, or are they still willing to fight for the title this season.
For the record, I believe that without Klopp, under FSG we wouldn't be this successful. We're blessed to have him.

Who picked Klopp ?

Are you not happy with the team being one of the best in Europe ? The stadium being built up ? The squad being built every year ? The training facilities - it’s all investment into the club for now and the future. How exactly are they not treating it as a football club when everything they do is about improving the football club for the benefit of the team on the pitch

Can you even comprehend where we were before tbe took over ? Can you remember that time when we were bounced out by Northampton, when we dropped to 16th in the league , when we had a team of - Poulsen , Koncheskey etc


FSG have proven themselves to bring success to sports clubs - they did it with Red Sox and now they are doing it with us - why do I need to find excuses ? You are being shown facts that you just ignore to allow you to continue to rant because they don’t act like other owners ?


I’ll ask again - would you prefer Abramovich? Would you prefer the club run like UTD , or maybe you want the oil money ? How about credit with bank loans ?


Have you even listened to what Klopp has said - it’s about getting the right player in , it’s not some football simulator game where it’s easy to pick up a player. Can you even understand the situation in the game right now.

I think you will find Klopp could have gone anywhere hardly them picking out a diamond in the rough, and it was LFC that attracted Klopp with our history not the lure of FSG.

I remember lots of success in the late 70’s and 80’s before FSG don’t worry.

Have they been good owners, no doubt but their cautious approach to LFC is clearly at odds to how they manage the Red Sox. In extraordinary times any good business takes the situation into account, how much of a risk would a short term loan be if they are that tight despite being worth $8B.

In no interview has Klopp ever said the right player is not available, look we know he is not going to throw his toys out of the park he’s not that sort of person. He will as always just make do............yeah the champions of the EPL having to do with midfielders and championship level players covering up in defence!

Just back the guy who has brought all the recent silverware and with it the new Stadium stand, Melwood etc.

Our issues are at CB because our best midfielders have been playing there. Our whole game had changed. We risk burning 3 points tomorrow due to that position alone. City are pulling away, soon to be away and gone.

Our midfield has been good enough as you could see the other night which is why Klopp was ok with players like Fabinho there


Are you saying - Gini , Thiago and Milner with Jones etc aren’t good enough when playing against teams like West Ham ?!

Our midfield has been good enough as you could see the other night which is why Klopp was ok with players like Fabinho there


Are you saying - Gini , Thiago and Milner with Jones etc aren’t good enough when playing against teams like West Ham ?!

How about  Hendo, Thiago and Fabinho in Midfield! That's what we need to make happen.

How about  Hendo, Thiago and Fabinho in Midfield! That's what we need to make happen.

His argument would mean we are a couple of injuries away from a crisis in midfield just like in central defence, pure lunacy.

I think you will find Klopp could have gone anywhere hardly them picking out a diamond in the rough, and it was LFC that attracted Klopp with our history not the lure of FSG.

I remember lots of success in the late 70’s and 80’s before FSG don’t worry.

Have they been good owners, no doubt but their cautious approach to LFC is clearly at odds to how they manage the Red Sox. In extraordinary times any good business takes the situation into account, how much of a risk would a short term loan be if they are that tight despite being worth $8B.

In no interview has Klopp ever said the right player is not available, look we know he is not going to throw his toys out of the park he’s not that sort of person. He will as always just make do............yeah the champions of the EPL having to do with midfielders and championship level players covering up in defence!

Just back the guy who has brought all the recent silverware and with it the new Stadium stand, Melwood etc.

But Klopp didn’t go anywhere - FSG picked him and he came to us , that was FSG , the “lure” of LFC - let’s be honest the club was way behind plenty other clubs due to the lack of any real consistent success since the 80’s


And you harping back to the 70’s and 80’s to use that as a stick to beat the owners with just highlights your clear lack of understanding of the way the game moved forward and we as a club stood still - it took until FSG arrived for us as a club to move forward


Was this “cautious” approach?

How many times do people like you need to be told - self sufficient , that is the model - no spending from their own money , no loans to buy players - we have a model , a model which works and shows it works , a transfer policy that works

For all the injuries we are still there challenging for both CL and the Title - our squad even with injuries is still good enough to win


It’s not a football game where a player can just be picked up from nowhere and if people don’t trust our transfer policy now then they never will


But there are some people out there that don’t deserve this success

How about  Hendo, Thiago and Fabinho in Midfield! That's what we need to make happen.

That midfield has never played together - it wasn’t needed to win the CL and title , why is it “needed” now -

Is Gini just ignored now ? Did we not dominate the other might against Spurs ? Have our issues not been the fullbacks not the front three ?

But Klopp didn’t go anywhere - FSG picked him and he came to us , that was FSG , the “lure” of LFC - let’s be honest the club was way behind plenty other clubs due to the lack of any real consistent success since the 80’s


And you harping back to the 70’s and 80’s to use that as a stick to beat the owners with just highlights your clear lack of understanding of the way the game moved forward and we as a club stood still - it took until FSG arrived for us as a club to move forward


Was this “cautious” approach?

How many times do people like you need to be told - self sufficient , that is the model - no spending from their own money , no loans to buy players - we have a model , a model which works and shows it works , a transfer policy that works

For all the injuries we are still there challenging for both CL and the Title - our squad even with injuries is still good enough to win


It’s not a football game where a player can just be picked up from nowhere and if people don’t trust our transfer policy now then they never will


But there are some people out there that don’t deserve this success

A transfer policy that works 😂 It’s Klopp that makes it work because he is that good..........you seem to have a short memory of the transfer policy under Rodgers!!

You clearly don’t have a idea of how football works, they will have a dossier on virtually every player across Europe and can pick out players who can provide emergency cover.
It’s not rocket science.

That midfield has never played together - it wasn’t needed to win the CL and title , why is it “needed” now -

Is Gini just ignored now ? Did we not dominate the other might against Spurs ? Have our issues not been the fullbacks not the front three ?

That's our best starting midfield imo. Gini is and would still be an important player for us.
Our best Midfielders should not be playing in CB. That's something that should be addressed asap.

That midfield has never played together - it wasn’t needed to win the CL and title , why is it “needed” now -

Is Gini just ignored now ? Did we not dominate the other might against Spurs ? Have our issues not been the fullbacks not the front three ?

Call it ignored is a bit over the top.

In the 3 mentioned you have the full combo of defensive, box to box and creative. Gini is not going to control certain games the way we will need from our midfield.

He was at his best on Thursday at 3 1 up. He creates next to nothing when were in a tight game or in a 0 0 needing that spark.

Hendo gave it for the 1st goal on Thursday, and that was coming from the back. Gini is a 5 yard sideways pass all the time, which as I say is great when you away from home 3 1 up seeing the game out

A transfer policy that works 😂 It’s Klopp that makes it work because he is that good..........you seem to have a short memory of the transfer policy under Rodgers!!

You clearly don’t have a idea of how football works, they will have a dossier on virtually every player across Europe and can pick out players who can provide emergency cover.
It’s not rocket science.

Is that not what you do though?

Hire the best people to implement how you want a business run?

A transfer policy that works 😂 It’s Klopp that makes it work because he is that good..........you seem to have a short memory of the transfer policy under Rodgers!!

You clearly don’t have a idea of how football works, they will have a dossier on virtually every player across Europe and can pick out players who can provide emergency cover.
It’s not rocket science.

Are you that narrow minded that you are unable to see any work behind a manager ?

Do you even understand the relationship between the manager , Edwards , Hogan , Gordan - a manager doesn’t do everything on his own and it’s hugely disrespectful to the team behind the scenes- Klopp is outstanding but he isn’t super human

Is that the same Rodgers who gave us the best chance of winning the title since 1990 ?

Having a “dossier” is irrelevant if the conditions to sign any player aren’t there - it’s not like a football game where you search then press submit bid.

That's our best starting midfield imo. Gini is and would still be an important player for us.
Our best Midfielders should not be playing in CB. That's something that should be addressed asap.

It’s amazing all these managers on a forum knowing better than Klopp and his team ?

How do you know a midfield three is the best three when they have never played together ?


We have an unprecedented level of injuries - we have a specific amount of players in the squad that the manager has helped assemble and he adjusts that squad to get the best results possible

Over the last 4 weeks our front three have been hugely off form - plenty of chances have been created to win games but they haven’t been taken


I’m going to say our biggest miss right now is Jota as opposed to CBs

Are you that narrow minded that you are unable to see any work behind a manager ?

Do you even understand the relationship between the manager , Edwards , Hogan , Gordan - a manager doesn’t do everything on his own and it’s hugely disrespectful to the team behind the scenes- Klopp is outstanding but he isn’t super human

Is that the same Rodgers who gave us the best chance of winning the title since 1990 ?

Having a “dossier” is irrelevant if the conditions to sign any player aren’t there - it’s not like a football game where you search then press submit bid.

What are you even about, players are signed every window F**k knows what you are on about though.

The situation has changed even from a week ago.

The club rightly or wrongly thought by rotating Matip and Fab with the reserve players we could still cope well that dynamic has now imploded, with Hendo and Fab in CB leaves us very short in midfield, asking for trouble with CL due to start soon.

One injury in midfield equals no midfielders on the bench.

It’s amazing all these managers on a forum knowing better than Klopp and his team ?

How do you know a midfield three is the best three when they have never played together ?


We have an unprecedented level of injuries - we have a specific amount of players in the squad that the manager has helped assemble and he adjusts that squad to get the best results possible

Over the last 4 weeks our front three have been hugely off form - plenty of chances have been created to win games but they haven’t been taken


I’m going to say our biggest miss right now is Jota as opposed to CBs

Might as well shut all fan forums down then. Nobody knows anything even the people who were thinking at the start of the season 'hmm we are a bit short at the back this season'.

Just because we aren't scoring goals doesnt mean the issue is with the forwards. As Klopp and Mourinho pointed out already this week its the teams balance that goes. You will probably find having Henderson and Fabinho out of kidfield makes it a lot harder for us to win back posession and create counter attacks.

The truth is prior to Spurs we have created very little for a month.

What are you even about, players are signed every window f**k knows what you are on about though.

The situation has changed even from a week ago.

The club rightly or wrongly thought by rotating Matip and Fab with the reserve players we could still cope well that dynamic has now imploded, with Hendo and Fab in CB leaves us very short in midfield, asking for trouble with CL due to start soon.

One injury in midfield equals no midfielders on the bench.

How many clubs have gone out this window and bought players ?

Do you even understand the financial constraints at the moment due to the loss of prob over £100mil of income because of the lack of match day revenue


Have you not seen that very little amount of transfers have happened in this window - how do you know who is available and at what price ?

Also have you looked at the dynamics within the squad - we are allowed 25 players , limits on the amount of non home grown players ( I believe we are at the limit )


Where you one of those that threw their toys out when Werner went to Chelsea and that they also signed Havertz ?


So you avoided the question so I’ll ask again - would you prefer the club to be like chelsea and an owner like Abramovich? Or maybe United ? City ?

What do you want ?

Might as well shut all fan forums down then. Nobody knows anything even the people who were thinking at the start of the season 'hmm we are a bit short at the back this season'.

Just because we aren't scoring goals doesnt mean the issue is with the forwards. As Klopp and Mourinho pointed out already this week its the teams balance that goes. You will probably find having Henderson and Fabinho out of kidfield makes it a lot harder for us to win back posession and create counter attacks.

The truth is prior to Spurs we have created very little for a month.

The stats don’t back that up - we have dominated possession in every single one of those games , created more chances than the opposition , more shots on goal - chances have been created in every game for the game to be won - they have been very wasteful

I understand personally that we are playing through some uncertain times and this transfer window has been a washout. But theres no clubs out there with 0 or 1 first team central defenders.

Any club in our position would IMO have to act. Even Ashley at Newcastle. We are really screwed at the back now.

I don't think people realise how bad it has got until we go up against the likes of City and quality CL teams.

We must do something even if it is a Mustaffi or a soccer player.

That may keep us in a top 4 position  but the damage to a title bid has already been done. We only had a shot if we signed a proper player back there.

The title isn't over based on our points now or how many points we are behind. Of course a full squad could pull that back, but based on our current squad and how that now compares with the 2 Manchester clubs this isn't a season for us.