NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Goes to show having some money to spend without a brain does you no good.

In 18/19 Fulham spent >100M (USD) for Seri, Anguissa, Mitrovic and Mawson while for a lot less than that we got Mane and Gini a couple years earlier.

You are really starting to grind on me with the way you look at FSG!The comparison with these three clubs (all 3 teams in the bottom 5 this season)is how the hell can their net spend be higher than a club in the CL since 2017/18 and that's has won the PL and CL?(if you combine the average attendance of all 3 teams it's only about 30'000 less than ours!)not what players they have brought with that spend!We have a net spend of just over 20m a season and are 6th in the PL for highest wages therefore Jürgen and the boys have over performed on the pitch and Edwards has excelled in the transfer market with buying and selling players.We are 6th in the PL now which is right with the resources Jürgen and Edwards have at their disposals and if we were to finish there all you FSG lovers would be fuming about the net spend and lack of support!Once Jürgen and Edwards have left our great club all these pro FSG supporters will start smelling the coffee.For all those posters that say about the new training complex,Leicester city also built a new training complex but have a higher net spend and to those posters that say FSG built a new stand,it cost £115m (even if you add that to the net spend it makes the net spend around £43m)and was an interest free loan to the club by FSG,FSG had reaps rewards in revenue from that pre covid.As a club challenging for the highest honours in club football we are becoming a laughing stock because of FSG with their business strategies and risk losing the best manager in the world.

I don’t doubt it, although does that include building upgrades and new training facilities, or just on squad investment, ie new players?

That is just buying new players

You are really starting to grind on me with the way you look at FSG!The comparison with these three clubs (all 3 teams in the bottom 5 this season)is how the hell can their net spend be higher than a club in the CL since 2017/18 and that's has won the PL and CL?(if you combine the average attendance of all 3 teams it's only about 30'000 less than ours!)not what players they have brought with that spend!We have a net spend of just over 20m a season and are 6th in the PL for highest wages therefore Jürgen and the boys have over performed on the pitch and Edwards has excelled in the transfer market with buying and selling players.We are 6th in the PL now which is right with the resources Jürgen and Edwards have at their disposals and if we were to finish there all you FSG lovers would be fuming about the net spend and lack of support!Once Jürgen and Edwards have left our great club all these pro FSG supporters will start smelling the coffee.For all those posters that say about the new training complex,Leicester city also built a new training complex but have a higher net spend and to those posters that say FSG built a new stand,it cost £115m (even if you add that to the net spend it makes the net spend around £43m)and was an interest free loan to the club by FSG,FSG had reaps rewards in revenue from that pre covid.As a club challenging for the highest honours in club football we are becoming a laughing stock because of FSG with their business strategies and risk losing the best manager in the world.

Net spend 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Net spend is irrelevant


In the past 5 years Klopp has spent £500mil on players


Who the hell in the football world is laughing at us for the way we do our business?

Its amazing how some of you lads accept everything from twitter as fact. Maybe you accept it as it suits your side of an argument?

Suggest you do your own research before running with everything placed on social media by people who like spreading sh*te.

For example Fulhams nett spend in that 5 year period is 49 million. Sheff utd is similar, slightly less. Ours is 93 million

Brightons nett spend is huge as they have forked out over 200 million in that 5 year period, often on dross, and got back only 15 million from sales. As I pointed out last night they bought a player, I never heard of, for 22 million then sold him for 2. Thats great for the nett column but is it good in reality?

You are really starting to grind on me with the way you look at FSG!The comparison with these three clubs (all 3 teams in the bottom 5 this season)is how the hell can their net spend be higher than a club in the CL since 2017/18 and that's has won the PL and CL?(if you combine the average attendance of all 3 teams it's only about 30'000 less than ours!)not what players they have brought with that spend!We have a net spend of just over 20m a season and are 6th in the PL for highest wages therefore Jürgen and the boys have over performed on the pitch and Edwards has excelled in the transfer market with buying and selling players.We are 6th in the PL now which is right with the resources Jürgen and Edwards have at their disposals and if we were to finish there all you FSG lovers would be fuming about the net spend and lack of support!Once Jürgen and Edwards have left our great club all these pro FSG supporters will start smelling the coffee.For all those posters that say about the new training complex,Leicester city also built a new training complex but have a higher net spend and to those posters that say FSG built a new stand,it cost £115m (even if you add that to the net spend it makes the net spend around £43m)and was an interest free loan to the club by FSG,FSG had reaps rewards in revenue from that pre covid.As a club challenging for the highest honours in club football we are becoming a laughing stock because of FSG with their business strategies and risk losing the best manager in the world.

ok, lets send back all the big players we have signed, the Premier league trophy and champions league trophy, league cup, world club, super cup, oh and the new stand, and new training complex, cos some LFC fans arnt happy that were not billy big bollox spending silly money all over the gaff just so we can gat the latest new superstar from Xbox FiFA 2021   

Our nett column would also be hit by the fact we got, for example,

iver 19 million for Solanke
12 million for Danny Ward
16 million for Jordan Ibe

Id like to think we wont see any arguments about that being good business?

Our nett column would also be hit by the fact we got, for example,

iver 19 million for Solanke
12 million for Danny Ward
16 million for Jordan Ibe

Id like to think we wont see any arguments about that being good business?

Fairy muff Brian, beside the dross of the Prem comparisons when Jürgen is on the point of nervous exhaustion and decides to throw his hand in, we are then back to the 2 year managerial try-outs with the associated disaster.

Klopp more than Edwards is deserving of the credits for our success but the 'soccer' jugglers in Boston are consumed by market projections and values, their lack of judgement and honesty sees LFC plunge from the pinnacle to jostling with the also-rans.

The bullshit from the pro-FSG crew is F***ing comical when the owner's short term policies and lack of faith in LFC, Liverpool FOOTBALL CLUB as opposed to Football Loan Enterprises, sees the club failing to confront their rivals.

Fairy muff Brian, beside the dross of the Prem comparisons when Jürgen is on the point of nervous exhaustion and decides to throw his hand in, we are then back to the 2 year managerial try-outs with the associated disaster.

Klopp more than Edwards is deserving of the credits for our success but the 'soccer' jugglers in Boston are consumed by market projections and values, their lack of judgement and honesty sees LFC plunge from the pinnacle to jostling with the also-rans.

The bullshit from the pro-FSG crew is f**king comical when the owner's short term policies and lack of faith in LFC, Liverpool FOOTBALL CLUB as opposed to Football Loan Enterprises, sees the club failing to confront their rivals.

Reading through this thread has got tiresome. Lads like yourself dont like them and how they operate. I respect that. Im ok with them because they have not done anything I didnt expect, they have operated as they said they would. Its not ideal but its certainly not bad.

My big gripe in the discussion is people using false info to help their side of the debate.

As for nett spend, we could go out this summer spend 400 million on 3 players sell 10 players for 10 million have a nett spend of 390 million and win nothing, or we could buy 6 players sell 15 have a nett spend of 20 million and win everything.

So debate away but move away from nett spend as an argument and stick to actual facts, on both sides of the argument

Reading through this thread has got tiresome. Lads like yourself dont like them and how they operate. I respect that. Im ok with them because tgey have not done anything I didnt expect, they have operated as they said they would. Its not ideal but its certainly not bad.

My big gripe in the discussion is people using false info to help their side of the debate.

As for netr spend, we coukd go out this summer spend 400 million on 3 players ell 10 players for 10 million have a nett spend of 390 million and win nothing, or we could buy 6 players sell 15 have a nett spend of 20 million and win everything.

So debate away but move away from nett spend as an argument and stick to actual facts, on both sides of the argument

Made no mention of 'net spend' Brian.
Don't want any spending on nets (just giving those here a chuckle who think they are financial wizards and anyone who doesn't agree is a moron!) there should be an overdue strengthening of vital areas such as midfield and defence!

At the end of last season we should have consolidated areas of play that needed quality to replace quality, if we were to defend our title successfully.
You very, very rarely pay peanuts for guaranteed quality, you get what you pay for.

LFC have paid the price ( not forgetting all the spending on nets etc).

Made no mention of 'net spend' Brian.
Don't want any spending on nets (just giving those here a chuckle who think they are financial wizards and anyone who doesn't agree is a moron!) there should be an overdue strengthening of vital areas such as midfield and defence!

At the end of last season we should have consolidated areas of play that needed quality to replace quality, if we were to defend our title successfully.
You very, very rarely pay peanuts for guaranteed quality, you get what you pay for.

LFC have paid the price ( not forgetting all the spending on nets etc).

If we dont have the absolute disaster of an injury list we have had Id bet my house were right up citys arse if not ahead of them in the title race and then the discussion on what we done in the summer isnt taking place.

On the summer, the talk was we need a centre half and a forward. We got the forward. Jürgen himself said, in regards to the centre half " The centre half position, you think you are well covered. We have 3 absolutely top, top class centre halves, young players in behind and Fabinho at the back". We all said we needed one when Lovern left, Jürgen seems to have thought we were ok, and we probably would have been only for the nightmare injury ravaged season which just had no let up on us at all

(just giving those here a chuckle who think they are financial wizards and anyone who doesn't agree is a moron!)

There's F***ing loads of that, I must say.

If we dont have the absolute disaster of an injury list we have had Id bet my house were right up citys arse if not ahead of them in the title race and then the discussion on what we done in the summer isnt taking place.

On the summer, the talk was we need a centre half and a forward. We got the forward. Jürgen himself said, in regards to the centre half " The centre half position, you think you are well covered. We have 3 absolutely top, top class centre halves, young players in behind and Fabinho at the back". We all said we needed one when Lovern left, Jürgen seems to have thought we were ok, and we probably would have been only for the nightmare injury ravaged season which just had no let up on us at all

No doubt about it - without those injuries we would be neck and neck with them


I think people are expecting some big summer spending spree

It’s not going to happen - where do they expect the money to come from for starters ?

There is no doubt that the club will try and sell some players who are not in the managers plans and they will continue to look to improve

If we dont have the absolute disaster of an injury list we have had Id bet my house were right up citys arse if not ahead of them in the title race and then the discussion on what we done in the summer isnt taking place.

On the summer, the talk was we need a centre half and a forward. We got the forward. Jürgen himself said, in regards to the centre half " The centre half position, you think you are well covered. We have 3 absolutely top, top class centre halves, young players in behind and Fabinho at the back". We all said we needed one when Lovern left, Jürgen seems to have thought we were ok, and we probably would have been only for the nightmare injury ravaged season which just had no let up on us at all

The manager apparently asked for CB cover this season and got nowhere.
As previously posted we were incredibly lucky last season with injuries,  it only needed Henderson or Virgil to take a knock and the title would have been lost.

Our luck ran out.

The manager apparently asked for CB cover this season and got nowhere.
As previously posted we were incredibly lucky last season with injuries,  it only needed Henderson or Virgil to take a knock and the title would have been lost.

Our luck ran out.

You might cope with losing VVD if you dont lose Matip and Gomez as well. You cope without Hendo if Gini Fab Keita, and now Thiago are all fit. Hendo dropoed back because we lost all first chouce centre halves, then the 4th choice and the boss overlooking the 5th despite him playing well any chance he did get.

Dropping Hendo back instead of trusting Philips ontop of not having Fab means the rest need to step up. Thiago, after hs own injury hasnt stepped up likewise Ox while we have not seen Keita, leaving Gini who wont settle his future as our main man . Cluster f**k that no other club would get through unscated including city.

Sooner the better its over. And lets see what way we operate off the pitch this summer.

Apart from all this I hope your keeping well pal

ok, lets send back all the big players we have signed, the Premier league trophy and champions league trophy, league cup, world club, super cup, oh and the new stand, and new training complex, cos some LFC fans arnt happy that were not billy big bollox spending silly money all over the gaff just so we can gat the latest new superstar from Xbox FiFA 2021   

Shut the front door,the fairy tale will end once Jürgen leaves,lets see what you think of FSG then?we weren't CL regulars with all the other managers before Jürgen,OPEN YOUR EYES!You can not compete long term with their strategies so enjoy the time we have left with Jürgen in charge because it won't last.If it weren't for Jürgen turning Coutinho into a seemly world class player and getting a fortune for him then do you think we would have VVD and Ally?Not a chance with these clowns in charge,since the 19/20 season our only big buy was Jota for 41m and we have a surplus on net spend but we still couldn't get a CB when the January window opened and waited for the final day to spend 2.5m on Davies and a loan for kabak.The owners are a joke and you lot of posters loving of FSG is laughable,support the team and Jürgen instead of wasting energy on business people that are only interested in making money.

Its amazing how some of you lads accept everything from twitter as fact. Maybe you accept it as it suits your side of an argument?

Suggest you do your own research before running with everything placed on social media by people who like spreading sh*te.

For example Fulhams nett spend in that 5 year period is 49 million. Sheff utd is similar, slightly less. Ours is 93 million

Brightons nett spend is huge as they have forked out over 200 million in that 5 year period, often on dross, and got back only 15 million from sales. As I pointed out last night they bought a player, I never heard of, for 22 million then sold him for 2. Thats great for the nett column but is it good in reality?

What are you on about,please show me the link that shows our net spend on players is 93m over the last 5 years?even if you added the new stand and training complex to it it wouldn't be 93m!

What are you on about,please show me the link that shows our net spend on players is 93m over the last 5 years?even if you added the new stand and training complex to it it wouldn't be 93m!

Very easy to find. I see now you want to add stadiums etc into the fold. Good man

Transferleague.co.uk will show you ins and outs of each club, not Fulham though

Net spend 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Net spend is irrelevant


In the past 5 years Klopp has spent £500mil on players


Who the hell in the football world is laughing at us for the way we do our business?

Who have we signed since 2019?only Jota has been a big signing.yes Jürgen has spent 500M but he has also recouped nearly 400m so do the maths,we should have had some funds for a CB at the start of January we should have also stumped up an extra 5m for Jamal Lewis Jürgen's no1 target,as he was proven in the PL,but the tight fuckers wouldn't,so stop licking their b**ls.

Very easy to find. I see now you want to add stadiums etc into the fold. Good man

come on the Brian show me the evidence?I said our net spend wouldn't even be 93m with the new stand and training complex,please read the post properly.

Who have we signed since 2019?only Jota has been a big signing.yes Jürgen has spent 500M but he has also recouped nearly 400m so do the maths,we should have had some funds for a CB at the start of January we should have also stumped up an extra 5m for Jamal Lewis Jürgen's no1 target,as he was proven in the PL,but the tight fuckers wouldn't,so stop licking their b**ls.

Why since 2019 only ? And we signed Jota Thiago Adrian Tsimikas Minamino and Van Seep

Did we need “big signings”

Still going on about a back left back 🤦‍♂️

come on the Brian show me the evidence?I said our net spend wouldn't even be 93m with the new stand and training complex,please read the post properly.

The net spend discussion is soeley based on players, ive provided the site in the above pist as to where I got my info. Id imagine though adding up our spend v what we recouped, might be a bit out either way but should be close

You might cope with losing VVD if you dont lose Matip and Gomez as well. You cope without Hendo if Gini Fab Keita, and now Thiago are all fit. Hendo dropoed back because we lost all first chouce centre halves, then the 4th choice and the boss overlooking the 5th despite him playing well .
Sooner the better its over. And lets see what way we operate off the pitch this summer.

Apart from all this I hope your keeping well pal

All good here Brian hope you and yours are well mate.

The net spend discussion is soeley based on players, ive provided the site in the above pist as to where I got my info. Id imagine though adding up our spend v what we recouped, might be a bit out either way but should be close

Just looked Brian and your talking out of your arse,you might want to use a calculator!No where near 93m net spend over the last 5 years.