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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Brian78
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27048: Feb 26, 2021 01:29:06 pm
      Just looked Brian and your talking out of your arse,you might want to use a calculator!No where near 93m net spend over the last 5 years.


      You want to look again so or maybe dont look if you dont want to see....whats 470 -378
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      Reply #27049: Feb 26, 2021 01:33:26 pm

      Why since 2019 only ? And we signed Jota Thiago Adrian Tsimikas Minamino and Van Seep

      Did we need “big signings”

      Still going on about a back left back 🤦‍♂️

      To replace VVD or Henderson no question.
      We contemplate the result of financial expediency overriding quality.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27050: Feb 26, 2021 01:35:26 pm
      Just looked Brian and your talking out of your arse,you might want to use a calculator!No where near 93m net spend over the last 5 years.


      Taken from the fees on Transfer Market



      15/16

      Out - £113
      In - £80

      Net £33

      16/17

      Out - £70mil
      In - £75

      Net - +£5mil

      17/18

      Out - £155 mil
      In - £175 mil

      Net - +£20mil

      18/19

      Out - £165mil
      In - £35mil

      Net £130mil

      19/20

      Out - £10mil
      In  - £35mil

      Net - £25mil

      20/21

      Out £75
      In - £35

      Net - £40mil

      Overall

      Out - £588
      In - £435

      Net -£153
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27051: Feb 26, 2021 01:36:30 pm
      To replace VVD or Henderson no question.
      We contemplate the result of financial expediency overriding quality.

      Replace Henderson and VVD last summer ?


      Why are we looking to replace VVD

      The club only looks at ensure it’s financial security
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      Reply #27052: Feb 26, 2021 01:45:05 pm

      Taken from the fees on Transfer Market



      15/16

      Out - £113
      In - £80

      Net £33

      16/17

      Out - £70mil
      In - £75

      Net - +£5mil

      17/18

      Out - £155 mil
      In - £175 mil

      Net - +£20mil

      18/19

      Out - £165mil
      In - £35mil

      Net £130mil

      19/20

      Out - £10mil
      In  - £35mil

      Net - £25mil

      20/21

      Out £75
      In - £35

      Net - £40mil

      Overall

      Out - £588
      In - £435

      Net -£153

      I didnt use 20/21 season, or the site I got it from didnt anyway. So you come in at 113 up to 2020 which is 20 million  more
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27053: Feb 26, 2021 02:28:34 pm
      Replace Henderson and VVD last summer ?


      Why are we looking to replace VVD

      The club only looks at ensure it’s financial security

      If they should get injured, obviously not a consideration for you or FSG.
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      Reply #27054: Feb 26, 2021 02:41:10 pm
      If they should get injured, obviously not a consideration for you or FSG.

      We have multiple centre mids at the club -

      Milner , Keita , Fabinho , Ox , Gini , Jones - and we bought a CM in Thiago in the summer


      We had Gomez , Matip and VVD as CB’s with Fabinho covering as well


      So the club decided to bring in cover for the front three , centre mid and left back.


      If it was just VVD who was injured then we had cover - but we lost all three CB’s - no club can cover for that
      « Last Edit: Feb 26, 2021 02:53:58 pm by Lallana in Pyjamas »
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      Reply #27055: Feb 26, 2021 03:09:44 pm
      We have multiple centre mids at the club -

      Milner , Keita , Fabinho , Ox , Thiago , Jones - and we bought a CM in Thiago in the summer


      We had Gomez , Matip and VVD as CB’s with Fabinho covering as well


      So the club decided to bring in cover for the front three , centre mid and left back.


      If it was just VVD who was injured then we had cover - but we lost all three CB’s - no club can cover for that

      Which equates to a lack of adequate cover!
      If the first line of cover lacks comparative quality the 2nd and 3rd choices will be worse in ratio!

      The manager is not allowed to sign quality if the sell to buy options is not available.
      Using players out of position exacerbated the crisis.

      You can bullshit all you like - our current predicament proves the above assertion.
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      Reply #27056: Feb 26, 2021 03:14:05 pm
      Which equates to a lack of adequate cover!
      If the first line of cover lacks comparative quality the 2nd and 3rd choices will be worse in ratio!

      The manager is not allowed to sign quality if the sell to buy options is not available.
      Using players out of position exacerbated the crisis.

      You can bullshit all you like - our current predicament proves the above assertion.

      🤦‍♂️

      We lost three first choice CB’s - no team can cover for that ffs


      We are not in a predicament because we lost just one CB - we lost F***ing 3 plus the two others who covered


      Got F**k all to do with players arriving

      As for the manager “not allowed to sign quality players” - do you just make up this sort sh*t off the cuff or do you actually think about it first
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      Reply #27057: Feb 26, 2021 03:36:03 pm
      🤦‍♂️

      We lost three first choice CB’s - no team can cover for that ffs


      We are not in a predicament because we lost just one CB - we lost F***ing 3 plus the two others who covered

      All inferior players who did not acquit themselves satisfactorily.

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      Got F**k all to do with players arriving
      As for the manager “not allowed to sign quality players” - do you just make up this sort sh*t off the cuff or do you actually think about it first

      You make sh*t up!
      I said the manager has to sell to buy, made no mention of not being allowed to whatever the F**k.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27058: Feb 26, 2021 03:39:05 pm
      You make sh*t up!
      I said the manager has to sell to buy, made no mention of not being allowed to whatever the f**k.


      Of course the players are going to be inferior to VVD - he is the best CB in the world , who the F**k do you expect to be sitting there waiting to cover for him that isn’t inferior to him 🤦‍♂️


      And there is no sell to buy policy - unless you want to provide the name of a player who was sold just so that Klopp could buy someone .


      You are as bad as that Corbally bloke on Twitter
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27059: Feb 26, 2021 03:55:00 pm
      Replace Henderson and VVD last summer ?


      Why are we looking to replace VVD

      The club only looks at ensure it’s financial security

      If they should get injured, obviously not a consideration for you or FSG.

      Of course the players are going to be inferior to VVD - he is the best CB in the world , who the F**k do you expect to be sitting there waiting to cover for him that isn’t inferior to him 🤦‍♂️


      And there is no sell to buy policy - unless you want to provide the name of a player who was sold just so that Klopp could buy someone .


      You are as bad as that Corbally bloke on Twitter

      How long you been supporting this club fuckwit?
      So you don't remember Suarez or Coutinho being sold to acquire players?

      You're having a F***ing laff lad and bullshit when the questions F**k you up.
      « Last Edit: Feb 26, 2021 04:06:42 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #27060: Feb 26, 2021 03:57:13 pm
      Do you think Jürgen will pay any attention to what Pep spends per season, knowing full well can’t compete on that front? Think Pep come out last couple of days and basically said that city’s money is the difference.

      Like I alluded to, not something we can control, so no need to worry about what the opposition do ...

      At no point did I say I "worry about it".

      I have no F***ing idea what you always try to twist things.

      To me, it's just common sense to look at what our rivals do.
      It's how you plan.
      That's my opinion, if you don't like it, that's your problem, I'm not going to argue about it, and I'm not going to change my mind.


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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27061: Feb 26, 2021 04:48:22 pm
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      Reply #27062: Feb 26, 2021 05:05:07 pm
      At no point did I say I "worry about it".

      I have no f**king idea what you always try to twist things.

      To me, it's just common sense to look at what our rivals do.
      It's how you plan.
      That's my opinion, if you don't like it, that's your problem, I'm not going to argue about it, and I'm not going to change my mind.




      Arguing about nothing mate. Just what I see ..

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      Reply #27063: Feb 26, 2021 05:24:42 pm
      Arguing about nothing mate. Just what I see ..

      Bullshit.

      Looking, is not "worrying", as well you know,.
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      Reply #27064: Feb 26, 2021 05:27:25 pm

      Why since 2019 only ? And we signed Jota Thiago Adrian Tsimikas Minamino and Van Seep

      Did we need “big signings”

      Still going on about a back left back 🤦‍♂️

      I didn't we needed big money signings just the ones that are Jürgen's targets.
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      Reply #27065: Feb 26, 2021 05:29:24 pm

      For their 10% stake, will they expect a dividend, or will they be content to take their cut when/if FSG sell?

      That's the big question, for me.

      Next biggest question is how much of that $750 million will LFC see?

      That's if it happens, of course.
      We've all seen these rumours before.

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27066: Feb 26, 2021 05:33:53 pm

      Taken from the fees on Transfer Market



      15/16

      Out - £113
      In - £80

      Net £33

      16/17

      Out - £70mil
      In - £75

      Net - +£5mil

      17/18

      Out - £155 mil
      In - £175 mil

      Net - +£20mil

      18/19

      Out - £165mil
      In - £35mil

      Net £130mil

      19/20

      Out - £10mil
      In  - £35mil

      Net - £25mil

      20/21

      Out £75
      In - £35

      Net - £40mil

      Overall

      Out - £588
      In - £435

      Net -£153

      Post the link please,you are talking crap.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27067: Feb 26, 2021 05:42:05 pm
      Post the link please,you are talking crap.

      You mean it doesn't match some bullshit figure you saw on twitter.
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      Reply #27068: Feb 26, 2021 05:47:15 pm
      You mean it doesn't match some bullshit figure you saw on twitter.

      I asked for the link as proof
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27069: Feb 26, 2021 05:55:40 pm
      If they should get injured, obviously not a consideration for you or FSG.
      How long you been supporting this club fuckwit?
      So you don't remember Suarez or Coutinho being sold to acquire players?

      You're having a f**king laff lad and bullshit when the questions f**k you up.

      Suarez and Coutinho weren’t sold just so the club could buy other players


      They were both sold because they wanted to leave and both downed tools - once refused to play the other bit someone. They didn’t get sold just so the club could buy someone


      You clearly have no F***ing clue what sell to buy means
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27070: Feb 26, 2021 05:56:06 pm
      Post the link please,you are talking crap.

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-liverpool/alletransfers/verein/31

      This is LFC's transfer activity.

      Over the past 5 years the net spend is 111M.

      This is Bayern's transfer activity, that HScRed told us is a top model that we should follow

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-bayern-munchen/alletransfers/verein/27

      OVer the past 5 years their net spend is 138M, so they average about 5M more than us per year, very marginal and basically immaterial

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