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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      what-a-hit-son
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      Reply #27750: Apr 24, 2021 02:28:22 pm
      We got what we deserved, to be honest. If you don't take your chances, you don't win football matches.

      Jermaine Jenas is a f**king melt.
      « Last Edit: Apr 24, 2021 03:02:14 pm by what-a-hit-son »
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      Reply #27751: Apr 24, 2021 02:55:09 pm
      People still not accepting that not having the crowd behind them has made a massive difference to the team. Over 140 shot at Anfield for 4 goals according to BT.
      Now FSG should reflect on how important the "stakeholders" are to the team let alone the club. Team is clearly going to be very much better with Virgil, Joe and Jordan in it however it needs freshening up and the standard of player we need will mean major investment. Its going to be an interesting summer for the Club. Maybe FSG should be paying the Crowd to turn up.
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      Reply #27752: Apr 24, 2021 03:38:53 pm
      One good thing they have done is not bow down to Wijnaldum  wages his time is done as is a few others the 5yr cycle enough for some
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      Reply #27753: Apr 24, 2021 04:22:14 pm
      People still not accepting that not having the crowd behind them has made a massive difference to the team. Over 140 shot at Anfield for 4 goals according to BT.
      Now FSG should reflect on how important the "stakeholders" are to the team let alone the club. Team is clearly going to be very much better with Virgil, Joe and Jordan in it however it needs freshening up and the standard of player we need will mean major investment. Its going to be an interesting summer for the Club. Maybe FSG should be paying the Crowd to turn up.

      Just to say I hope you are doing well Walt! Good to see you back on the board.

      We'll bounce back!
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      Reply #27754: Apr 25, 2021 09:30:42 am
      One good thing they have done is not bow down to Wijnaldum  wages his time is done as is a few others the 5yr cycle enough for some

      REALLY?Not giving an improved contract to a long servant who rarely gets injured and plays nearly every game,Gini's contract is 90K a week,that's 13th in the players wages,with players like Keita,Milly and the OX,who are not first team regulars all paid more.4 players are on double what Gini gates,would you be happy at work if people were paid double what you earn for doing the same job they do,FFS Firmino is on double who has been crap for the best part of two years.Jürgen rates Gini extremely highly and Gini has come out saying he wants to stay,Jürgen has sent lots of statements in his interviews stating he wants Gini to stay.

      Here's the website with the players wages on,  https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/payroll/
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      Reply #27755: Apr 25, 2021 09:41:38 am
      Ox is 27 and signed 2 years ago before the bad injury , Firmino signed 3 years ago when he was also performing better,  Milner is short term and was due to no signing on fee . Gini is 30 now so completely different
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      Reply #27756: Apr 25, 2021 09:57:04 am
      Ox is 27 and signed 2 years ago before the bad injury , Firmino signed 3 years ago when he was also performing better,  Milner is short term and was due to no signing on fee . Gini is 30 now so completely different

      What a load of rubbish,Gini is 30 but he plays every week and hardly never gets injured,on the basis of you argument which one of the OX and Gini would you keep?By the way the OX signed the latest contract after his serious injury. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11791511/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-signs-new-liverpool-contract

      Milly also signed a contract extension in 2019 for 3 years,this latest contract was nothing to do with his free transfer he signed in 2015.
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      Reply #27757: Apr 25, 2021 10:04:29 am
      So apparently FSG have knocked back an offer of around 3bn to sell up and do one? I wonder if their time is drawing near.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-takeover-3bn-breaking-20458914
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      Reply #27758: Apr 25, 2021 10:07:47 am
      What a load of rubbish,Gini is 30 but he plays every week and hardly never gets injured,on the basis of you argument which one of the OX and Gini would you keep?By the way the OX signed the latest contract after his serious injury. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11791511/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-signs-new-liverpool-contract

      Milly also signed a contract extension in 2019 for 3 years,this latest contract was nothing to do with his free transfer he signed in 2015.

      My bad around timings point still stands around age ,length of contract and wage rise , Jota for example is on same as Wijnaldum do you think he is happy being on same as Gini with his current performances this season . You are entitled to your opinion as am I and he does not warrant the massive increase in wages and I can understand the owners worries about agreeing to this and also length of contract
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      Reply #27759: Apr 25, 2021 10:09:00 am
      What a load of rubbish,Gini is 30 but he plays every week and hardly never gets injured,on the basis of you argument which one of the OX and Gini would you keep?By the way the OX signed the latest contract after his serious injury. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11791511/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-signs-new-liverpool-contract

      Milly also signed a contract extension in 2019 for 3 years,this latest contract was nothing to do with his free transfer he signed in 2015.

      My bad around timings point still stands around age ,length of contract and wage rise , Jota for example is on same as Wijnaldum do you think he is happy being on same as Gini with his current performances this season . You are entitled to your opinion as am I and he does not warrant the massive increase in wages and I can understand the owners worries about agreeing to this and also length of contract . And around OX he also won't be in a position to demand the things that Gini is demanding when his contract talks come round again
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27760: Apr 25, 2021 10:55:54 am
      The old adage of action speaks louder than words never felt so appropriate
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27761: Apr 25, 2021 12:28:39 pm
      REALLY?Not giving an improved contract to a long servant who rarely gets injured and plays nearly every game,Gini's contract is 90K a week,that's 13th in the players wages,with players like Keita,Milly and the OX,who are not first team regulars all paid more.4 players are on double what Gini gates,would you be happy at work if people were paid double what you earn for doing the same job they do,FFS Firmino is on double who has been crap for the best part of two years.Jürgen rates Gini extremely highly and Gini has come out saying he wants to stay,Jürgen has sent lots of statements in his interviews stating he wants Gini to stay.

      Here's the website with the players wages on,  https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/payroll/

      Is that true?  My god, I had a look through that link and it melted my brain.  Your argument goes double for Andy Robertson, based on those figures!
      Got to say it though, I look at what we're supposedly paying the top earners and I think Premier League football is such a fu**ed-up world.   
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #27762: Apr 25, 2021 01:21:26 pm
      So apparently FSG have knocked back an offer of around 3bn to sell up and do one? I wonder if their time is drawing near.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-takeover-3bn-breaking-20458914

      The mancs owners the Glazers have said they will sell for £4bn so the price for LFC is reasonable.
      In relative terms of course but who would pay that kind of money is questionable. .
      « Last Edit: Apr 25, 2021 01:27:18 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #27763: Apr 25, 2021 01:24:53 pm
      The mancs owners the Glazers have said they will sell for £4bn so the price for LFC is reasonable.

      Over-inflated though
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      Reply #27764: Apr 25, 2021 01:30:22 pm

      Of course mate and have amended the comment to reflect the fact.
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      Reply #27765: Apr 25, 2021 02:37:37 pm
      £3,000,000,000.

      For that you get an aging team with possible Europa league football next season. You get an old stadium. And you get the ever uncertain risk of having no fans in stadiums because of covid mutations fears.

      No time wasters.

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      Reply #27766: Apr 25, 2021 02:52:36 pm
      The mancs owners the Glazers have said they will sell for £4bn so the price for LFC is reasonable.
      In relative terms of course but who would pay that kind of money is questionable. .

      I’d also wager that now the Glazers have stated 4bn, JWH and Co will be thinking a similar amount...

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      Reply #27767: Apr 25, 2021 02:56:06 pm
      £3,000,000,000.

      For that you get an aging team with possible Europa league football next season. You get an old stadium. And you get the ever uncertain risk of having no fans in stadiums because of covid mutations fears.

      No time wasters.



      I’d also wager that now the Glazers have stated 4bn, JWH and Co will be thinking a similar amount...

      They already have, the yanks have turned down three the cheeky cu*ts.
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      Reply #27768: Apr 25, 2021 03:09:22 pm
      I want the US bas**rds gone. I want a Sheikh that gives us the money like City gets but respects the legacy and tradition of LFC. Of course first choice would be a buy-out from us fans or the city, but that ain't realistic.
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      Reply #27769: Apr 25, 2021 03:14:23 pm
      I want the US bas**rds gone. I want a Sheikh that gives us the money like City gets but respects the legacy and tradition of LFC. Of course first choice would be a buy-out from us fans or the city, but that ain't realistic.

      Which human rights infractions will you be happy with?
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      Reply #27770: Apr 25, 2021 03:20:06 pm
      Looks to me the only way is a fan based ownership, with an elected club president, such as The King at the helm. That really would be an extraordinary thing of beauty...
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      Reply #27771: Apr 25, 2021 03:20:59 pm
      My bad around timings point still stands around age ,length of contract and wage rise , Jota for example is on same as Wijnaldum do you think he is happy being on same as Gini with his current performances this season . You are entitled to your opinion as am I and he does not warrant the massive increase in wages and I can understand the owners worries about agreeing to this and also length of contract . And around OX he also won't be in a position to demand the things that Gini is demanding when his contract talks come round again

      Jota was signed as potential and played 24 games(8 being sub),Gini has been here for around 5 years and played 232 games and Jürgen rates him highly,we paid 25m for Thiago who was 29 (now 30) and is one of the highest earners at the club on around 200k per week and signed a four year contract hence he will be 33 when his contract is up!!and is only 5 months younger than Gini,so your argument doesn't add up.
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      Reply #27772: Apr 25, 2021 03:23:56 pm
      Jota was signed as potential and played 24 games(8 being sub),Gini has been here for around 5 years and played 232 games and Jürgen rates him highly,we paid 25m for Thiago who was 29 (now 30) and is one of the highest earners at the club on around 200k per week and signed a four year contract hence he will be 33 when his contract is up!!and is only 5 months younger than Gini,so your argument doesn't add up.

      Thiago is also a better player than Gini. What other f**king argument would you like?
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      Reply #27773: Apr 25, 2021 03:24:30 pm
      Is that true?  My god, I had a look through that link and it melted my brain.  Your argument goes double for Andy Robertson, based on those figures!
      Got to say it though, I look at what we're supposedly paying the top earners and I think Premier League football is such a fu**ed-up world.

      The figures are crazy for kicking a ball around but it's the fans that pay for it with their tv subs,buying merchandise and attending games,which hopefully will return sooner rather than later.
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      Reply #27774: Apr 25, 2021 03:27:06 pm
      The figures are crazy for kicking a ball around but it's the fans that pay for it with their tv subs,buying merchandise and attending games,which hopefully will return sooner rather than later.

      Players wages have been astronomical since John Barnes asked for 10 grand back in 1992 and got thoroughly slagged during the semi-final against Portsmouth that season.

      Want to blame anyone though, blame Jimmy Hill, he started all of this.

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