NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

In spite of all the distraction of annual book-keeping, directors bonuses, peculiar payments to Mr Dalglish etc etc, the fact remains - the owners have not put any more into LFC than their initial buy out sum.
Mr Klopp despite his modesty, has saved the club from the mediocrity of mid-table status.

You’re like a broken F***ing record

Is all you care about the level of money the owners have put in - if you don’t like the way the owners run the club successfully then stop putting money into it as a protest

The club is in a better place on and off the field than it has been in the last 30 years yet you can’t stop droning on about owners spending

It's like talking to a door

The same people that are demanding the owners sign players using their own money are prob the same people who critisized Abramovich and Mansour for financially cheating and ruining the league

Of course they can be, but the ones who are you can find listed here:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/corporate/directors

And the club's directors have made a combined £2.1m in 2019/20

It is however easier to believe there's a conspiracy theory behind our financial accounts than simply accepting that maybe - MAYBE - you might be wrong. Wish I had that kind of self-confidence

Shareholder employee’s, any ideas how many are on the books & how much they got paid....?

I’m still to be convinced that this team salary is a combined £330 million inclusive of bonuses...

Shareholder employee’s, any ideas how many are on the books & how much they got paid....?

I’m still to be convinced that this team salary is a combined £330 million inclusive of bonuses...

I suspect they can show you every wage slip and you wouldn’t be convinced so I don’t think there is any point anymore


The accounts are public - nothing is hidden , you can ask the company to provide all the information if you wish

The same people that are demanding the owners sign players using their own money are prob the same people who critisized Abramovich and Mansour for financially cheating and ruining the league

You’re like a broken F***ing record

Is all you care about the level of money the owners have put in - if you don’t like the way the owners run the club successfully then stop putting money into it as a protest

The club is in a better place on and off the field than it has been in the last 30 years yet you can’t stop droning on about owners spending

It's like talking to a door

You people cannot dispute the fact that it’s true, if they had made provision for injuries with quality back up and parted with some dosh we would not be also rans this term.

Got to say tho’ their short term fixes in a football context have bolloxed our incredible manager’s
best efforts.

I suspect they can show you every wage slip and you wouldn’t be convinced so I don’t think there is any point anymore


The accounts are public - nothing is hidden , you can ask the company to provide all the information if you wish

Will it be as good as admiring the Premiere League trophy?

You people cannot dispute the fact that it’s true, if they had made provision for injuries with quality back up and parted with some dosh we would not be also rans this term.

Got to say tho’ their short term fixes in a football context have bolloxed our incredible manager’s
best efforts.

No one said it isn’t true - we all know how much money they used to buy the club

This season we lost 3 CB’s to season ending injuries - you can’t compensate for that

We ended the season playing two further Cb’s that were already in the squad - why didn’t Klopp play them together earlier ? With Fabinho in front protecting them - why persist with Fabinho as a CB , that was his choice not the owners just as it was his choice to start the season with 3 Cb’s and two youngsters


But even then they still got two more in during the January transfer window but then it wasn’t rhe CB’s that were missing the chances up front

If the owners get the flak when we only come third why don’t they get any credit when we win trophies ?

You people cannot dispute the fact that it’s true, if they had made provision for injuries with quality back up and parted with some dosh we would not be also rans this term.

Got to say tho’ their short term fixes in a football context have bolloxed our incredible manager’s
best efforts.

You're like a child that didn't get a toy at Xmas mate.

We have built one of the best squads in Europe.

We bought one of the league's best young attacker's and Europe's best CM last summer.

We didn't splash out on a CB in January as we most likely couldn't get the man we wanted, you know the guy we've just signed last week, so we made do.

All your current moaning seems to stem from not splashing out on a CB in January in what has been the most fu**ed up season in living memory for all the reasons we have discussed before.

Will it be as good as admiring the Premiere League trophy?

Is that the one that FSG helped win for the first time in 30 years

Will it be as good as admiring the Premiere League trophy?

The same one we admired just one season ago??

You get on as if we still haven't ended that wait.

Alongside adding number 6 in the process.

I used to think you were an intelligent guy mate but the more you spout nonsense in this thread the more you look like an idiot that cannot see the wood from the trees.

You are blinded by the fact they don't 'put their own money in' to see that actual success we have achieved.

And I don't want to read again about this season. We all know we didn't win the league this season.

They haven't owned us for one season.

I suspect they can show you every wage slip and you wouldn’t be convinced so I don’t think there is any point anymore


The accounts are public - nothing is hidden , you can ask the company to provide all the information if you wish

Would be very transparent of them wouldn’t it, make a change.

Would be very transparent of them wouldn’t it, make a change.

It’s already transparent in the public company accounts - the same with all the football clubs

It’s already transparent in the public company accounts - the same with all the football clubs

You’d make a brilliant defence lawyer, when I’m up shits creek I’ll give you a hola...😂

Plenty mouths to feed here..

Wiki

Partners in Fenway Sports Group LLC as of 31 March 2021 include:

Theodore Alfond
William Alfond
Maverick Carter
Thomas R. DiBenedetto
Michael J. Egan (Director, Liverpool FC)
Patrick Egan
David Ginsberg (Vice chairman)
Michael S. Gordon (President, FSG; director, Liverpool FC)
John W. Henry (Principal owner)
Linda P. Henry
Josh Jacobson
LeBron James
John A. Kaneb
Sam Kennedy (President/CEO, Boston Red Sox)
Seth Klarman
Larry Lucchino (President/CEO emeritus, Boston Red Sox)
Henry F. McCance
Phillip H. Morse (Vice chairman)
Michael Pucker
Bruce Rauner
RedBird Capital Partners
Frank M. Resnek
Laura Trust
Paul Wachter
Herbert Wagner
Thomas C. Werner (Chairman)
Ed Weiss is listed as executive Vice President corporate strategy and general counsel and Greg Morris as chief financial officer.

You’d make a brilliant defence lawyer, when I’m up shits creek I’ll give you a hola...😂

Plenty mouths to feed here..

Wiki

Partners in Fenway Sports Group LLC as of 31 March 2021 include:

Theodore Alfond
William Alfond
Maverick Carter
Thomas R. DiBenedetto
Michael J. Egan (Director, Liverpool FC)
Patrick Egan
David Ginsberg (Vice chairman)
Michael S. Gordon (President, FSG; director, Liverpool FC)
John W. Henry (Principal owner)
Linda P. Henry
Josh Jacobson
LeBron James
John A. Kaneb
Sam Kennedy (President/CEO, Boston Red Sox)
Seth Klarman
Larry Lucchino (President/CEO emeritus, Boston Red Sox)
Henry F. McCance
Phillip H. Morse (Vice chairman)
Michael Pucker
Bruce Rauner
RedBird Capital Partners
Frank M. Resnek
Laura Trust
Paul Wachter
Herbert Wagner
Thomas C. Werner (Chairman)
Ed Weiss is listed as executive Vice President corporate strategy and general counsel and Greg Morris as chief financial officer.

Are they directors  of LFC ? That’s who is on the payroll for the club


But I guess you are attempting to make a point that you don’t want to say directly which is that FSG are taking money out of the club to pay dividends to shareholders- is what you are trying to say indirectly

These are the directors of LFC -

The Directors of LFC are:

Mr J. Henry (Principal Owner)
Mr T. Werner (Chairman)
Mr M. Gordon
Mr B. Hogan (Chief Executive Officer)
Mr A. Hughes (Managing Director)
Mr M. Egan
Sir K. Dalglish


These are the only people getting a director wage


Then again you have shown before you are unaware of the difference between FSG and LFC

You’d make a brilliant defence lawyer, when I’m up shits creek I’ll give you a hola...😂

Plenty mouths to feed here..

Wiki

Partners in Fenway Sports Group LLC as of 31 March 2021 include:

Theodore Alfond
William Alfond
Maverick Carter
Thomas R. DiBenedetto
Michael J. Egan (Director, Liverpool FC)
Patrick Egan
David Ginsberg (Vice chairman)
Michael S. Gordon (President, FSG; director, Liverpool FC)
John W. Henry (Principal owner)
Linda P. Henry
Josh Jacobson
LeBron James
John A. Kaneb
Sam Kennedy (President/CEO, Boston Red Sox)
Seth Klarman
Larry Lucchino (President/CEO emeritus, Boston Red Sox)
Henry F. McCance
Phillip H. Morse (Vice chairman)
Michael Pucker
Bruce Rauner
RedBird Capital Partners
Frank M. Resnek
Laura Trust
Paul Wachter
Herbert Wagner
Thomas C. Werner (Chairman)
Ed Weiss is listed as executive Vice President corporate strategy and general counsel and Greg Morris as chief financial officer.

If you're making an accusation, provide evidence.

That's how it works.

It's not for others to disprove your crackpot theories.

You people cannot dispute the fact that it’s true, if they had made provision for injuries with quality back up and parted with some dosh we would not be also rans this term.

I have also shown that your assertion we had "normal" luck the past season to be absolute bollocks, but you chose to ignore that when I replied to you. Even "making a provision" for injuries would hardly have been sufficiently given how badly we were affected.

Anyway, this hardly makes all of your assertions even remotely true.

And I said before I do not care about them spending "their own money", I have nothing against LFC running as a self-sufficient business and I wish all other football clubs were the same.

You can't keep asking for a sugar daddy then get all worked up about "oil money" in your next breath.

I've asked you questions about your favoured business model for a football club, as well as your ideal owner. You keep ignoring them and just come back repeating the same one or two liners now and again.

Which feels very much like talking to a door

Shareholder employee’s, any ideas how many are on the books & how much they got paid....?

I’m still to be convinced that this team salary is a combined £330 million inclusive of bonuses...

So let's be very clear here

Are you implying the owners are employing their own people, then paying them exorbitant amounts of money, and reporting it all together with the rest of the club, as a way to get money from the club?

Is that it?

And if so, how much money do you think they are taking?

And why do you think no one seems to have noticed - but your brilliant self?

So let's be very clear here

Are you implying the owners are employing their own people, then paying them exorbitant amounts of money, and reporting it all together with the rest of the club, as a way to get money from the club?

Is that it?

And if so, how much money do you think they are taking?

And why do you think no one seems to have noticed - but your brilliant self?

The idea that a group of billionaires and multi-millionaires are slcing a few million off the top, when they earn 10 times more (at least) every year without lifting a finger is one of the more laughable conspiracy theories.

If you're making an accusation, provide evidence.

That's how it works.

It's not for others to disprove your crackpot theories.

I’ve not accused anyone, all I’ve said I find it hard to believe the team/players with bonuses earned £330 million... that’s a stretch..

& all I got back was in response was a list of directors & the conspiracy jibes.

All good though..

So unless proven otherwise I’ll hold that opinion mate.

I’ve not accused anyone, all I’ve said I find it hard to believe the team/players with bonuses earned £330 million... that’s a stretch..

& all I got back was in response was a list of directors & the conspiracy jibes.

All good though..

So unless proven otherwise I’ll hold that opinion mate.

Did you not provide the list of “FSG directors “ with the comment “lots of mouths to feed” ?


Was it just an off the cuff comment or making a suggestion that money is also going to them ?

I’ve not accused anyone, all I’ve said I find it hard to believe the team/players with bonuses earned £330 million... that’s a stretch..

& all I got back was in response was a list of directors & the conspiracy jibes.

All good though..

So unless proven otherwise I’ll hold that opinion mate.

What a shock, not going to say what exactly you are trying to imply here

The club is never going to release their payroll to the level of detail you would need to be convinced, so it is a very easy position to take - unless "proven" to the extent you want it proven, which you know to be impossible, you will hold your opinion, however outlandish it may be. Basically a defence mechanism so you can continue to live in denial instead of engaging with reality.

What a shock, not going to say what exactly you are trying to imply here

The club is never going to release their payroll to the level of detail you would need to be convinced, so it is a very easy position to take - unless "proven" to the extent you want it proven, which you know to be impossible, you will hold your opinion, however outlandish it may be. Basically a defence mechanism so you can continue to live in denial instead of engaging with reality.

Club happy to release a wage bill of £330 million which is led to believe is spent on players salaries inc bonuses.. I find that hard to believe, that’s my opinion..

If you don’t like it you can sand paper one off..

Club happy to release a wage bill of £330 million which is led to believe is spent on players salaries inc bonuses.. I find that hard to believe, that’s my opinion..

If you don’t like it you can sand paper one off..

A wage bill in line with the other big clubs in the league as well.

So you're suggesting City, United and Chelsea are at it as well I guess?