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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #28600: Jun 17, 2021 09:15:49 pm
      Probably same interview I'm thinking about.

      Yep I'm sure I recall him talking about this in an interview as well.

      As we've said on here it was common knowledge Jürgen had to be nudged along to have Salah.
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      Reply #28601: Jun 17, 2021 09:17:43 pm

      Simple

      Klopp wanted Brandt


      Edwards and Co recommended Klopp instead or when Brandt said no


      It’s well known

      The manager’s words speak for themselves. It’s not whether you or I think it is the case. It also means nothing to say there is a common perception which says otherwise.

      According to the manager’s own words, he would have signed Salah at Dortmund when he could see Mo was an ‘unbelievable’ player. Having made an indelible impression on the manager, Klopp tracked his progress from Basel to Chelsea, to Fiorentina and to Roma, and could see Mo mature into a ‘really good player’ who had developed the qualities needed to succeed in the Premier League.

      The manager is on record as acknowledging the importance of the scouts in confirming Mo was ready and that they were persistent in recommending him. He also says they were ‘really behind [me]’ in coming to that decision. 

      There is simply no evidence to suggest that Mo wasn’t a player the manager rated extremely highly or that under a different set up he would have come to a different decision.

      Whether or not there were other targets - Brandt, Pulisic (who we were also strongly linked with) - is by the by and attempts to minimise the manager’s role in signing Mo wither away under close scrutiny.
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      Reply #28602: Jun 17, 2021 09:19:34 pm
      The manager’s words speak for themselves. It’s not whether you or I think it is the case. It also means nothing to say there is a common perception which says otherwise.

      According to the manager’s own words, he would have signed Salah at Dortmund when he could see Mo was an ‘unbelievable’ player. Having made an indelible impression on the manager, Klopp tracked his progress from Basel to Chelsea, to Fiorentina and to Roma, and could see Mo mature into a ‘really good player’ who had developed the qualities needed to succeed in the Premier League.

      The manager is on record as acknowledging the importance of the scouts in confirming Mo was ready and that they were persistent in recommending him. He also says they were ‘really behind [me]’ in coming to that decision. 

      There is simply no evidence to suggest that Mo wasn’t a player the manager rated extremely highly or that under a different set up he would have come to a different decision.

      Whether or not there were other targets - Brandt, Pulisic (who we were also strongly linked with) - is by the by and attempts to minimise the manager’s role in signing Mo wither away under close scrutiny.


      How many people need to tell you 🤷‍♂️


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      Reply #28603: Jun 17, 2021 09:20:07 pm
      Yep I'm sure I recall him talking about this in an interview as well.

      As we've said on here it was common knowledge Jürgen had to be nudged along to have Salah.


      Common knowledge to all bar one person it seems
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      Reply #28604: Jun 17, 2021 09:31:49 pm

      How many people need to tell you 🤷‍♂️




      I refer you to my previous post.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #28605: Jun 17, 2021 09:36:47 pm
      Is football365 a good reliable source..?
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      Reply #28606: Jun 17, 2021 09:57:11 pm
      Is football365 a good reliable source..?

      https://www.football365.com/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-julian-draxler-rejected-transfer-mo-salah


      Do you mean this one


      They aren’t really a source - they seem to mainly just find articles and quotes and retransmit them
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      Reply #28607: Jun 17, 2021 10:18:28 pm
      https://www.football365.com/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-julian-draxler-rejected-transfer-mo-salah


      Do you mean this one


      They aren’t really a source - they seem to mainly just find articles and quotes and retransmit them

      Yeah that’s the one, didn’t want to post it just incase it was somehow related to the sh*t rag..

      Only site with the story..
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      Reply #28608: Jun 17, 2021 10:24:34 pm
      Ah, so it was actually Draxler, a completely different player. Common knowledge, innit  :lmao:


      “Mohamed has the perfect mix of experience and potential -- this is a really exciting signing for us," manager Jürgen Klopp said.

      "He knows the Premier League, he has pedigree in the Champions League and he is one of the most important players for his country.

      “His record in Italy has been outstanding and he possesses qualities that will enhance our team and squad.”

      “I have followed him since he emerged at Basel and he has matured into a really good player.

      “His pace is incredible, he gives us more attacking threat and we are already strong in this area. I like that we will make it even more competitive.”

       "Most important though, for us, is that he is hungry, willing and eager to be even better and improve further. He believes in what we are trying to do here at Liverpool and is extremely keen to be part of it."

      https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3147058/liverpool-complete-mohamed-salah-signing-from-roma



      “A lot of players have shown it is quite easy to struggle at Chelsea. (Kevin) De Bruyne is one,” Klopp said at the time.

      “The only thing that we really ignored was what he did at Chelsea. “

      “When he was at Basel we (Dortmund) played them and we didn’t know him. It was ‘what the f**k?’. It was unbelievable. The moment I said ‘let’s go for him’ he was already at Chelsea.”

      “Then he struggled at Chelsea because it was too early. Then he went to Fiorentina and then Roma.”

      “The question is ‘what did you not see in him?’ because he played all inclusive football. He was quick, he played a lot of games, he created goals and chances and he scored by himself.”

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-f-jurgen-klopp-describes-18192303

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #28609: Jun 17, 2021 10:38:09 pm
      Ah, so it was actually Draxler, a completely different player. Common knowledge, innit  :lmao:


      “Mohamed has the perfect mix of experience and potential -- this is a really exciting signing for us," manager Jürgen Klopp said.

      "He knows the Premier League, he has pedigree in the Champions League and he is one of the most important players for his country.

      “His record in Italy has been outstanding and he possesses qualities that will enhance our team and squad.”

      “I have followed him since he emerged at Basel and he has matured into a really good player.

      “His pace is incredible, he gives us more attacking threat and we are already strong in this area. I like that we will make it even more competitive.”

       "Most important though, for us, is that he is hungry, willing and eager to be even better and improve further. He believes in what we are trying to do here at Liverpool and is extremely keen to be part of it."

      https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3147058/liverpool-complete-mohamed-salah-signing-from-roma



      “A lot of players have shown it is quite easy to struggle at Chelsea. (Kevin) De Bruyne is one,” Klopp said at the time.

      “The only thing that we really ignored was what he did at Chelsea. “

      “When he was at Basel we (Dortmund) played them and we didn’t know him. It was ‘what the f**k?’. It was unbelievable. The moment I said ‘let’s go for him’ he was already at Chelsea.”

      “Then he struggled at Chelsea because it was too early. Then he went to Fiorentina and then Roma.”

      “The question is ‘what did you not see in him?’ because he played all inclusive football. He was quick, he played a lot of games, he created goals and chances and he scored by himself.”

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-f-jurgen-klopp-describes-18192303



      Manager on signing a new players tells everyone how great he is


      He isn’t exactly going to say “I wanted someone else but was persuaded to sign this player”



      You can keep going on if you wish but the overriding point is Klopp doesnt do it all on his own - the teams behind create the platform for him to be able to succeed and Klopp himself has acknowledged that a number of times , there is a lot of ice below the surface.


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      Reply #28610: Jun 17, 2021 11:08:33 pm

      Manager on signing a new players tells everyone how great he is


      He isn’t exactly going to say “I wanted someone else but was persuaded to sign this player”



      You can keep going on if you wish but the overriding point is Klopp doesnt do it all on his own - the teams behind create the platform for him to be able to succeed and Klopp himself has acknowledged that a number of times , there is a lot of ice below the surface.




      No, the manager describing how he was a long-term admirer of Salah and identifying the qualities he saw in him, giving the lie to the notion that Mo wasn’t already on his radar long before we signed him.

      No doubt the scouts did a good a job in verifying impressions that were already strongly formed but there is no evidence to suggest the manager wasn’t already well aware that Mo was a massive talent and clear evidence that he was. Whether he was target no.1 or no.20 doesn’t matter. We were linked with Pulisic, Douglas Costa, Draxler and Brandt amongst others. What matters is that the final decision was the right one. 
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      Reply #28611: Jun 18, 2021 05:19:47 pm
      Ah, so it was actually Draxler, a completely different player. Common knowledge, innit  :lmao:


      “Mohamed has the perfect mix of experience and potential -- this is a really exciting signing for us," manager Jürgen Klopp said.

      "He knows the Premier League, he has pedigree in the Champions League and he is one of the most important players for his country.

      “His record in Italy has been outstanding and he possesses qualities that will enhance our team and squad.”

      “I have followed him since he emerged at Basel and he has matured into a really good player.

      “His pace is incredible, he gives us more attacking threat and we are already strong in this area. I like that we will make it even more competitive.”

       "Most important though, for us, is that he is hungry, willing and eager to be even better and improve further. He believes in what we are trying to do here at Liverpool and is extremely keen to be part of it."

      https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3147058/liverpool-complete-mohamed-salah-signing-from-roma



      “A lot of players have shown it is quite easy to struggle at Chelsea. (Kevin) De Bruyne is one,” Klopp said at the time.

      “The only thing that we really ignored was what he did at Chelsea. “

      “When he was at Basel we (Dortmund) played them and we didn’t know him. It was ‘what the f**k?’. It was unbelievable. The moment I said ‘let’s go for him’ he was already at Chelsea.”

      “Then he struggled at Chelsea because it was too early. Then he went to Fiorentina and then Roma.”

      “The question is ‘what did you not see in him?’ because he played all inclusive football. He was quick, he played a lot of games, he created goals and chances and he scored by himself.”

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-f-jurgen-klopp-describes-18192303


      You finished making a tit of yourself now lad :lmao:
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      Reply #28612: Jun 18, 2021 06:03:12 pm
      Been away for a few days in deepest Wales so no internet, catching up I log on and find the other f**king balloon still taking the piss and distracting to avoid the obvious.
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      Reply #28613: Jun 20, 2021 10:34:58 pm
      So are you suggesting that the ESL was started by FSG ?

      Are you really sure - was it not the brain child of Perez

      And if one was created that some big clubs wouldn’t join ?!



      https://twitter.com/theanfieldtalk/status/1406671055817740299?s=21
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      Reply #28614: Jun 21, 2021 11:03:25 am

      Hang on mate, you're now taking Laporta's word for something because it suits you to?

      fucks sake, I've seen it all now.
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      Reply #28615: Jun 21, 2021 12:23:54 pm
      You know what, I don’t ready care who recommended who after reading the above posts.
      We’ve got Klopp due to FSG and they have funded most, and I say MOST of Klopps requirements, and collectively it’s taken us from mediocre to world beaters.
      Players still being recruited and I’m looking forward to the new season. And possibly another couple of signings in between.
      It’s not necessarily a sell to buy policy, but if we hadn’t sold pre or post new players arriving, we would now have a 1st team squad of about 45 players.
      It’s what is known as a turnover of players, each arrival hopefully better than them leaving.
      We look strong, we look good, we’ve got an almost new stadium, we’ve got great new training facilities, and it was all achieved on scotch mist, because FSG don’t spend a penny.
      Get a grip people, the futures bright, the futures RED !

      You get a grip you f**king balloon.
      FSG have not spent anymore than the sum involved to acquire the club - just shy of £400m.

      The building projects were financed with loans to the club.

      Players acquired were by way of sell to buy and helped with the genius of respective managers and their kudos in spotting star quality.

      Very little to do with FSG, Klopp agreed to manage LFC because of an affinity with the club, he could have taken his pick of the world's elite, again condemning your comment and lauding the owners to the bollox bin.
      « Last Edit: Jun 21, 2021 02:03:48 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #28616: Jun 21, 2021 03:15:59 pm
      Hang on mate, you're now taking Laporta's word for something because it suits you to?

      fucks sake, I've seen it all now.

      Just sharing some content mate.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #28617: Jun 21, 2021 03:17:31 pm

      So is that the same Barcelona who were desperate for it due to big financial issues 😂😂😂


      Must be a desperate day if his word is believed
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      Reply #28618: Jun 21, 2021 03:18:12 pm
      You get a grip you f**king balloon.
      FSG have not spent anymore than the sum involved to acquire the club - just shy of £400m.

      The building projects were financed with loans to the club.

      Players acquired were by way of sell to buy and helped with the genius of respective managers and their kudos in spotting star quality.

      Very little to do with FSG, Klopp agreed to manage LFC because of an affinity with the club, he could have taken his pick of the world's elite, again condemning your comment and lauding the owners to the bollox bin.



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      Reply #28619: Jun 21, 2021 03:19:14 pm
      So is that the same Barcelona who were desperate for it due to big financial issues 😂😂😂


      Must be a desperate day if his word is believed

      Well of he's quoted as saying it and it's not true then he's leaving himself open to be sued
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      Reply #28620: Jun 21, 2021 03:21:42 pm
      So is that the same Barcelona who were desperate for it due to big financial issues 😂😂😂


      Must be a desperate day if his word is believed

      Cant totally dismiss it either...
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      Reply #28621: Jun 21, 2021 03:37:13 pm
      Cant totally dismiss it either...

      I’m more than happy to dismiss it as nonsense.
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      Reply #28622: Jun 21, 2021 03:39:25 pm
      Just sharing some content mate.

      It wouldn't surprise me. FSG as of late have been allowing the Glazers to drag them around by the nose and you know Man U was looking for a payday to start clearing out their debt. We may never know the actual true story, so in the absence of that people are going to believe whatever suits their narrative either pro-FSG or anti-FSG.
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      Reply #28623: Jun 21, 2021 03:51:18 pm
      Cant totally dismiss it either...

      Considering it's coming from Barcelona, yes, you can.

      They were the last club (alongside Real) to drop out of the ESL, if they even have at all, and are going to continue discussing about it

      https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/news/2175652/laporta-given-clearance-to-continue-discussing-a-european-super-league

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #28624: Jun 21, 2021 04:00:13 pm
      No matter where you stand on FSG I wouldn't be too quick to believe what all other clubs say on the matter especially when trying to lay blame.
      « Last Edit: Jun 21, 2021 04:56:17 pm by srslfc »

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