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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Reply #28700: Jul 17, 2021 10:42:35 am
      Did he ? Have you got this public announcement that he wanted to buy Sancho ?

      And he got Jota instead of Werner - which do you think was a better buy

      Honestly must have missed that one.

      I’m very intrigued by this and so I went to look it up. Lots of third parties reporting Klopp is interested. These were probably based off direct quotes of Klopp in the media were consistent.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everything-liverpool-boss-jurgen-klopp-20521780

      Nowhere was Klopp quoted saying he wanted Sancho. He just made neutral quotes weighing in on Sancho.

      Klopp wanted Sancho? Based on third party reporting yes apparently. But no clear evidence based on his direct quotes to the media. So far.

      I might be missing something too.
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      Reply #28701: Jul 17, 2021 11:46:07 am
      I’m very intrigued by this and so I went to look it up. Lots of third parties reporting Klopp is interested. These were probably based off direct quotes of Klopp in the media were consistent.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everything-liverpool-boss-jurgen-klopp-20521780

      Nowhere was Klopp quoted saying he wanted Sancho. He just made neutral quotes weighing in on Sancho.

      Klopp wanted Sancho? Based on third party reporting yes apparently. But no clear evidence based on his direct quotes to the media. So far.

      I might be missing something too.

      "The red shirt (of Liverpool) would suit very well," Klopp said in an interview with German newspaper Bild. "I don't think such a transfer will be possible this season"

      Taken from the link you posted
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      Reply #28702: Jul 17, 2021 11:57:03 am
      Two - CL and league title. The point is we have won these and therefore I’m not complaining. Were these below your expectations? If so how many were you expecting that only these two fell short?

      That will beg the initial question of “Were there any particular actions of theirs that cost us more trophies? You could make your case around this... And back up your claim.”

      It’s open for anyone to answer. What did they not do that cost us more trophies? But do also prove that if they did otherwise, we would have won more trophies.

      For all the enthusiasm and support you and the other FSG fans shower on our errant owners it would seem they have been a tremendous asset to LFC.

      Apparently not it appears.

      Two trophies in 11 years is certainly not a commendable record for FSG,  the plaudits must go to the genius of Jürgen Klopp who has acheived in spite of fhe apparent failings of FSG.
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      Reply #28703: Jul 17, 2021 01:00:37 pm
      For all the enthusiasm and support you and the other FSG fans shower on our errant owners it would seem they have been a tremendous asset to LFC.

      Apparently not it appears.

      Two trophies in 11 years is certainly not a commendable record for FSG,  the plaudits must go to the genius of Jürgen Klopp who has acheived in spite of fhe apparent failings of FSG.

      Look at the squad when they took over and ask yourself was it realistic to expect instant success?

      They grew every aspect of the club which resulted in winning the two biggest trophies in football and I'm sure we're not finished yet.

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      Reply #28704: Jul 17, 2021 01:19:30 pm
      After the Copa and some of the performances he put in, don't write off Bobby La just yet!!

      It's the same every season.
      There's always idiots wanting to write Firmino off.
      Usually the same idiots who gob off about how "crap" Gini is/was for us.
      He's so crap PSG and Barca were fighting for his signature.
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      Reply #28705: Jul 17, 2021 01:32:45 pm
      It's the same every season.
      There's always idiots wanting to write Firmino off.
      Usually the same idiots who gob off about how "crap" Gini is/was for us.
      He's so crap PSG and Barca were fighting for his signature.

      Why are they idiots just because their opinion is different than yours ?
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      Reply #28706: Jul 17, 2021 01:33:50 pm
      For all the enthusiasm and support you and the other FSG fans shower on our errant owners it would seem they have been a tremendous asset to LFC.

      Apparently not it appears.

      Two trophies in 11 years is certainly not a commendable record for FSG,  the plaudits must go to the genius of Jürgen Klopp who has acheived in spite of fhe apparent failings of FSG.


      Just the two trophies 🤷‍♂️


      Have you knocked a few off ?


      Did you get expect the owners to come in and win trophies straight away - considering the club hadn’t won a trophy for 5 years before they bought us ?


      How many do you think we should have won in the past 11 years since they bought the club ?
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      Reply #28707: Jul 17, 2021 01:44:03 pm
      Look at the squad when they took over and ask yourself was it realistic to expect instant success?

      They grew every aspect of the club which resulted in winning the two biggest trophies in football and I'm sure we're not finished yet.


      JWH stood on the pitch and said he would make LFC great again and would provide all the means to achieve that end when NESV acquired the club.

      Unqualified bullshit!
      Until Klopp’s genius and a huge slice of luck with injuries FSG’s lack of input was negated.

      Without the vital Klopp element and just as essential an injury free season LFC are also rans as last season proved.

      Our owners false economies are LFC’s undoing.
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      Reply #28708: Jul 17, 2021 01:45:05 pm
      Why are they idiots just because their opinion is different than yours ?

      It's not an opinion what Firmino (and Gini) does for the team.
      If they were as sh*t as some try to make out, they wouldn't be here, simple as that.

      So, they're either trolling, or idiots.
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      Reply #28709: Jul 17, 2021 01:50:40 pm
      It's not an opinion what Firmino (and Gini) does for the team.
      If they were as sh*t as some try to make out, they wouldn't be here, simple as that.

      So, they're either trolling, or idiots.

      Loooooool what a stupid statement. Anyone who doesn't agree with me must have a hidden agenda or they're just an idiot. This one's got to be the funniest post I've read yet in my short time being a member of this forum. You sound like Rick Sanchez.

      Did Firmino get dropped when Jota came back from injury? Also, is Jamie Carragher a troll or an idiot?
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      Reply #28710: Jul 17, 2021 02:32:18 pm
      JWH stood on the pitch and said he would make LFC great again and would provide all the means to achieve that end when NESV acquired the club.

      Unqualified bullshit!
      Until Klopp’s genius and a huge slice of luck with injuries FSG’s lack of input was negated.

      Without the vital Klopp element and just as essential an injury free season LFC are also rans as last season proved.

      Our owners false economies are LFC’s undoing.

      Are we not “great again” then - we won CL again and then the league for the first time in 30 years - is that not great again


      Or back to also rans because came third during a season of unprecedented injuries ?


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      Reply #28711: Jul 17, 2021 02:37:03 pm
      Are we not “great again” then - we won CL again and then the league for the first time in 30 years - is that not great again


      Or back to also rans because came third during a season of unprecedented injuries ?

      We were top at xmas. We just needed to sign a defender. The rest is history
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      Reply #28712: Jul 17, 2021 02:50:49 pm
      We were top at xmas. We just needed to sign a defender. The rest is history


      We did sign a defender - in fact two. Not signing a defender wasnt the reason why we dropped - dropping points against - West Brom , Newcastle , Southampton and Burnley wasnt because we didn’t sign CB’s


      We then signed two CB’s and lost to - Brighton , Leicester , Man City, Everton , Chelsea over a period of 6 games


      It was our first ever true loss of form in 5 years - we then went 12 games unbeaten with two CB’s that were at the club at the start of the season
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      Reply #28713: Jul 17, 2021 03:01:27 pm

      We did sign a defender - in fact two. Not signing a defender wasnt the reason why we dropped - dropping points against - West Brom , Newcastle , Southampton and Burnley wasnt because we didn’t sign CB’s


      We then signed two CB’s and lost to - Brighton , Leicester , Man City, Everton , Chelsea over a period of 6 games


      It was our first ever true loss of form in 5 years - we then went 12 games unbeaten with two CB’s that were at the club at the start of the season

      Look at the level of cb's we brought in. One won't sell for £8.5m and the other's never played a game for us.

      Label it how you wish but that's the plain facts.

      If we addressed the cb problem earlier I believe we wouldn't have lost a lot of those games you mentioned.

      You can't ignore facts mate.

      Jan 1st we have one fit regular cb in Matip. He's glass. The owners said f**k it let's just leave it and hope the problem goes away. Matip gets injured. Oh f**k let's go get two basement buys because our sell to buy policy dictates this.

      Whether you like it or not we're a sell to buy club. It's worked so far, barring last year, so I'm still on board although their sh*t show in bringing a defender in has definitely made me sit up and watch what's next
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      Reply #28714: Jul 17, 2021 03:10:55 pm
      Look at the level of cb's we brought in. One won't sell for £8.5m and the other's never played a game for us.

      Label it how you wish but that's the plain facts.

      If we addressed the cb problem earlier I believe we wouldn't have lost a lot of those games you mentioned.

      You can't ignore facts mate.

      Jan 1st we have one fit regular cb in Matip. He's glass. The owners said f**k it let's just leave it and hope the problem goes away. Matip gets injured. Oh f**k let's go get two basement buys because our sell to buy policy dictates this.

      Whether you like it or not we're a sell to buy club. It's worked so far, barring last year, so I'm still on board although their sh*t show in bringing a defender in has definitely made me sit up and watch what's next

      What CB should the club have signed in January then ?


      And the club works on a self sufficient basis - spends the money it makes
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      Reply #28715: Jul 17, 2021 03:21:55 pm
      What CB should the club have signed in January then ?


      And the club works on a self sufficient basis - spends the money it makes

      Self sufficient basis in an absolute crisis?

      I have a house and rent it out. Roof's gone and it's going to cost £8k. I've only made £5k from this house this year so I'll have to leave the roof how it is, f**k the tenants getting wet.

      Who they should have signed is down to them. It's not my job. Jürgen said he wanted a cb and he clearly didn't want Kabak or Davies. The proof is in the pudding. One got dropped and sent home never to return, even for £8.5m, and the other has played as many minutes as I have for LFC.

      Like I said package and label it however you like it clearly was a royal f**k up. Every pundit and his nan was saying in December we need to sign someone Jan 1st. They kept mentioning it because they knew deep down, just like we did, that fsg were planning on signing no one hence Klopps constant comments "signings won't fix this". Imo the boss was towing the line as to not create chaos with the fanbase against the owners
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      Reply #28716: Jul 17, 2021 03:24:35 pm
      Self sufficient basis in an absolute crisis?

      I have a house and rent it out. Roof's gone and it's going to cost £8k. I've only made £5k from this house this year so I'll have to leave the roof how it is, f**k the tenants getting wet.

      Who they should have signed is down to them. It's not my job. Jürgen said he wanted a cb and he clearly didn't want Kabak or Davies. The proof is in the pudding. One got dropped and sent home never to return, even for £8.5m, and the other has played as many minutes as I have for LFC.

      Like I said package and label it however you like it clearly was a royal f**k up. Every pundit and his nan was saying in December we need to sign someone Jan 1st. They kept mentioning it because they knew deep down, just like we did, that fsg were planning on signing no one hence Klopps constant comments "signings won't fix this". Imo the boss was towing the line as to not create chaos with the fanbase against the owners

      You are just ranting again


      You said the CB’s they signed in Jan weren’t good enough so who should they have signed - it’s a simple question surely



      And in a self sustaining club which spends what it earns - so which money do they spend beyond that ?


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      Reply #28717: Jul 17, 2021 03:25:29 pm
      Got to give to Lallana in pyjamas....he defends FSG robustly.

      Self sufficient basis in an absolute crisis?

      I have a house and rent it out. Roof's gone and it's going to cost £8k. I've only made £5k from this house this year so I'll have to leave the roof how it is, f**k the tenants getting wet.

      Who they should have signed is down to them. It's not my job. Jürgen said he wanted a cb and he clearly didn't want Kabak or Davies. The proof is in the pudding. One got dropped and sent home never to return, even for £8.5m, and the other has played as many minutes as I have for LFC.

      Like I said package and label it however you like it clearly was a royal f**k up. Every pundit and his nan was saying in December we need to sign someone Jan 1st. They kept mentioning it because they knew deep down, just like we did, that fsg were planning on signing no one hence Klopps constant comments "signings won't fix this". Imo the boss was towing the line as to not create chaos with the fanbase against the owners


      Difficult to disagree with this post...

      Fact we had to rely on 2 CB’s who never had a future at the club says it all really...the other were bought in emergency...(just in case)... that’s not showing ambition..
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      Reply #28718: Jul 17, 2021 03:30:50 pm
      Got to give to Lallana in pyjamas....he defends FSG robustly.

      No labels this time ?

      Im just pointing out some facts to people - for owners that some see are that horrific they must leave now we have


      Finally built up the stadium
      Got a world class training set up
      Have won the league for the first time in 30 years
      Won the CL again
      Won the World Club Cup
      Have a world class squad

      Have a world class manager
      World class recruitment team
      Outstanding commercial team
      No huge leveraged debt
      Don’t have to rely on the millions of one person



      Club right now is in its best position for the last 30 years and yet some do nothing but point fingers at the people that helped put the club back onto the top spot



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      Reply #28719: Jul 17, 2021 03:31:43 pm
      We finished 17 points out of first place. That people think a different CB over Kabak and Davies would have made up that many points goes to show how drunk they are in their own stupidity.

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      Reply #28720: Jul 17, 2021 03:32:01 pm


      And in a self sustaining club which spends what it earns - so which money do they spend beyond that ?




      Be nice if they broke the mould & spent some cash the club doesn’t generate...

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      Reply #28721: Jul 17, 2021 03:35:23 pm
      Be nice if they broke the mould & spent some cash the club doesn’t generate...


      Which cash is that then ? Loans against the club ?


      They are doing what they said they would - who shall they sell to then if you don’t like the way they run the club ?
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      Reply #28722: Jul 17, 2021 04:03:51 pm
      Loooooool what a stupid statement. Anyone who doesn't agree with me must have a hidden agenda or they're just an idiot. This one's got to be the funniest post I've read yet in my short time being a member of this forum. You sound like Rick Sanchez.

      Did Firmino get dropped when Jota came back from injury? Also, is Jamie Carragher a troll or an idiot?

      Here's the thing you seem unable to grasp:
      Firmino keeps getting picked for club and country, that's a fact.

      Mine isn't an opinion, it's an observation of fact.

      Your opinion on the other hand is at odds with observable, quantifiable facts, which makes it utterly worthless.

      Y'see, whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion, they are not entitled to have that opinion automatically respected, especially when it is the opposite of oberservable, quantifiable fact.

      Here's another fact for you: players have dips in form because of a variety of reasons, not least of which is fatigue.

      Here's yet another fact for you: Barca and PSG were fighting over Wijnaldum, two of the world's biggest clubs. Which in turn, makes the opinion of those who think he's no good, worthless.

      This is the problem with the internet: gobshites think their bullshit opinions have to be respected. They do not. If an opinion is obviously a load of bollocks, it's worthless, which is exactly what an opinion that is the opposite of oberservable, quantifiable fact is: worthless.
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      Reply #28723: Jul 17, 2021 04:07:12 pm
      Be nice if they broke the mould & spent some cash the club doesn’t generate...

      I'd agree with this if they hadn't stated what they were going to do as soon as they came in.

      If there was any grey area, I'd be right there with you.

      Problem is, I can't really have a pop at someone for sticking to their word.
      And even then, we've got a new stand, new training complex and another new stand on the way.

      From my perspective, they've brought the club into the 21st century after decades of neglect, and a few years of shysters trying to asset strip us, increased commercial revenue, built a great squad, and won a few trophies.
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      Reply #28724: Jul 17, 2021 04:23:22 pm
      JWH stood on the pitch and said he would make LFC great again and would provide all the means to achieve that end when NESV acquired the club.

      He did!!

      We've won the league after 30 years and another European Cup you absolute clown.

      Jesus H Christ mate take your head out of your ass for one minute and see they have had success and done pretty much what we wanted from them.

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