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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #29250: Sep 18, 2021 01:38:36 pm
      You’re better than that Si, you know exactly what I mean!
      FSG and their supporters are masters of deflection as has been proven with past mistakes and subsequent apologies that mask their inability to run a soccer club.


      I actually don't know what you meant by that statement but you likely won't explain but no worries.

      On the last paragraph if I were FSG I could likely point to more than one or two examples that showed I very much do know how to run a football club.
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      Reply #29251: Sep 18, 2021 01:42:59 pm
      My point in trying to get at generally speaking is I don’t get the whole FSG OUT vibe that exists given how we have performed to date under their tenure?

      OK, take the point. And I'm not on the FSG out bandwagon yet.
      But deffo not happy with this summers [lack of] business.
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      Reply #29252: Sep 18, 2021 01:45:58 pm

      But the most important thing is that if Jürgen feels he doesn’t need anyone coming in it won’t happen, currently he is happy with what he has, he is happy having a smaller squad than perhaps our rivals have, maybe it’s easier for him to manage a smaller squad and eliminates upsetting players that sit on the bench months on end not to mention the wage bill that come with it.


      We don't know though if Jürgen is OK with more players leaving than have come in this summer.
      He hasn't come out and criticised FSG, or complained outright about the lack of investment - but don't think that means he's happy with it.
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      Reply #29253: Sep 18, 2021 02:01:29 pm
      We cannot blame FSG to be too "scotish", after all they bought VVD or Alisson. They can and do invest, but they are not trigger-happy like those Sheikhs. But we could be on our way to a dynasty with Sheikhs giving Klopp what he wants more freely and quickly. That's a bit sad, but it won't change soon.
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      Reply #29254: Sep 18, 2021 02:38:19 pm
      I'm not getting into a childish "name one" debate, but if you think in the whole of World football there is only one person who could win with us then your a fool.

      No one in world football can sign one world class player in 3 years and compete for a title.

      We have the best coach in the world. All the rest need money and signings, which fsg don't provide.
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      Reply #29255: Sep 18, 2021 08:26:04 pm
      I actually don't know what you meant by that statement but you likely won't explain but no worries.


      Every manager beside Klopp was appointed and sacked by FSG so any implication of higher judgement on their part is horseshit.


      I will explain although you are acting f**king soft. 

      FSG appointed all the managers pre-Klopp.

      FSG sacked all the managers they appointed.

      Any plaudits (praise) for FSG regarding their record at LFC is misplaced in the light of these dreadful decisions.
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      Reply #29256: Sep 18, 2021 08:33:41 pm
      Don’t talk out of your arse!
      Klopp came here of HIS choosing and in spite of FSG, his mission was to save LFC from the ruinous economic strategy the owners pursue.
      Every manager beside Klopp was appointed and sacked by FSG so any implication of higher judgement on their part is horseshit.
      Klopp brought us glory in spite of FSG.



      😂😂😂😂😂😂


      Surely you’re on a wind up
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      Reply #29257: Sep 18, 2021 08:34:28 pm
      They haven’t got a f**king scooby.
      Any clearer?


      Yet they appointed Klopp 🤷‍♂️
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      Reply #29258: Sep 18, 2021 08:39:11 pm
      I will explain although you are acting f**king soft. 

      FSG appointed all the managers pre-Klopp.

      FSG sacked all the managers they appointed.

      Any plaudits (praise) for FSG regarding their record at LFC is misplaced in the light of these dreadful decisions.

      I still don't understand the point you're trying to make though.

      They appointed 2 managers before Jürgen, one of which was a win away from winning the league.

      When they realised those managers weren't the men to take us where we need to be they made the decision to make a change.

      Hardly groundbreaking stuff.
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      Reply #29259: Sep 18, 2021 08:40:27 pm
      I will explain although you are acting f**king soft. 

      FSG appointed all the managers pre-Klopp.

      FSG sacked all the managers they appointed.

      Any plaudits (praise) for FSG regarding their record at LFC is misplaced in the light of these dreadful decisions.

      Does appointing Klopp not count ?


      They have appointed 3 managers


      First manager won the league cup

      Second manager came within 3 points of winning the league

      Third manager won the CL and the league
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      Reply #29260: Sep 18, 2021 08:56:32 pm
      Don’t talk out of your arse!
      Klopp came here of HIS choosing and in spite of FSG........

      .........and the free mansion they provided him
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      Reply #29261: Sep 18, 2021 09:30:50 pm
      I still don't understand the point you're trying to make though.

      They appointed 2 managers before Jürgen, one of which was a win away from winning the league.

      When they realised those managers weren't the men to take us where we need to be they made the decision to make a change.

      Hardly groundbreaking stuff.

      What is groundbreaking is people supporting entrepreneurs who refuse to back a proven asset.
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      Reply #29262: Sep 18, 2021 10:02:58 pm
      So Jürgen hired and made himself one of the highest paid managers in the world, all on his own. Interesting.
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      Reply #29263: Sep 19, 2021 05:59:30 am
      So Jürgen hired and made himself one of the highest paid managers in the world, all on his own. Interesting.

      Did you also see how well Jürgen played yesterday? Dang what a player manager we have.
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      Reply #29264: Sep 19, 2021 11:36:44 am
      OK, take the point. And I'm not on the FSG out bandwagon yet.
      But deffo not happy with this summers [lack of] business.

      They have a different model of player recruitment to what we're used to - the traditional hand-to-mouth approach won't work unless you have the wealth of Man City / PSG / Chelsea ... we don't have the money to compete with them in that way. But by buying young players with talent and then every two/three years spending big in the summer to replace ageing players in key positions, it does become achievable.
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      Reply #29265: Sep 19, 2021 11:39:08 am
      What is groundbreaking is people supporting entrepreneurs who refuse to back a proven asset.

      Yep - "refuse to back a proven asset" ... the stadium was magically rebuilt by mysterious elves who came out during the night and did it all for free. Same with the training ground. And thankfully our entire first-team have agreed to be paid in gratitude instead of Pounds Sterling. Saved FSG a fortune it has!
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      Reply #29266: Sep 19, 2021 12:20:30 pm
      Yep - "refuse to back a proven asset" ... the stadium was magically rebuilt by mysterious elves who came out during the night and did it all for free. Same with the training ground. And thankfully our entire first-team have agreed to be paid in gratitude instead of Pounds Sterling. Saved FSG a fortune it has!

      All completed with loans to the club!
      Keep up for fucks sake.
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      Reply #29267: Sep 19, 2021 12:44:26 pm
      Anyone know how the protest went yesterday 😁
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      Reply #29268: Sep 19, 2021 01:23:56 pm
      All completed with loans to the club!
      Keep up for fucks sake.


      How do you think other owners finance their clubs?
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      Reply #29269: Sep 19, 2021 02:17:48 pm
      They have a different model of player recruitment to what we're used to - the traditional hand-to-mouth approach won't work unless you have the wealth of Man City / PSG / Chelsea ... we don't have the money to compete with them in that way.

      Forget Man City / PSG / Chelsea :) this summer, given we funded Konate with player sales, our outlay doesn't even compare with Arse/Spuds/Leicseter/WH etc.
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      Reply #29270: Sep 19, 2021 02:23:04 pm
      Does appointing Klopp not count ?


      They have appointed 3 managers


      First manager won the league cup

      Second manager came within 3 points of winning the league

      Third manager won the CL and the league

      Let's sack Jürgen then.  The next one might get us CL and League double every season!
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      Reply #29271: Sep 19, 2021 02:35:56 pm
      How do you think other owners finance their clubs?

      Which specific clubs?
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      Reply #29272: Sep 19, 2021 03:59:12 pm
      Forget Man City / PSG / Chelsea :) this summer, given we funded Konate with player sales, our outlay doesn't even compare with Arse/Spuds/Leicseter/WH etc.


      Arent Arsenal and Spurs spending the government loans - imagine what the reactions would be if the owners took those loans

      And why even bother comparing with other teams anyway
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      Reply #29273: Sep 19, 2021 04:11:27 pm
      And why even bother comparing with other teams anyway

      I was replying to someone who made a comparison.  Anyway, I don't see why not..
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      Reply #29274: Sep 19, 2021 04:29:39 pm
      I was replying to someone who made a comparison.  Anyway, I don't see why not..


      Didn’t clubs have different methods , different players , different needs - it appears there seems to be this new table more people are interested in - the net spend tables

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