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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32913: Mar 30, 2023 12:04:38 pm
      I have 100% faith that the club runs as a business and will make profits in years to come, unlike some clubs who make net losses every year.

      But itā€™s those clubs that make losses which have big salary expenses and player depreciation due to the most expensive wages and transfer fees in the market that win trophies.

      Very rarely do you pay peanuts and reap top honours and trophies. Even we canā€™t do that every year.

      So as a live entertainment business, more seats, more match tickets sold, higher ticket prices, more hospitality suites and corporate sponsorships, thereā€™s not doubt in the business model. The faith in them is 100%.

      But their focus is not getting the points and results. Their goal is to spend as little as possible on their staff costs including transfers to maximise profit. That, the faith is not even thereā€¦


      They havenā€™t really had too many seasons where itā€™s been a profit


      Also the wage bill is one of the highest in the league


      We may not pay the big fees for players every year but we arenā€™t cheap
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      Reply #32914: Mar 30, 2023 12:16:14 pm

      They havenā€™t really had too many seasons where itā€™s been a profit


      Also the wage bill is one of the highest in the league


      We may not pay the big fees for players every year but we arenā€™t cheap

      Oh thatā€™s even worseā€¦

      1) We seldom make a profit, and
      2) We have a high wage bill, and
      3) We are not capturing points or trophies

      Where are we headed? Assuming your points 1 and 2 are correct yeah?
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32915: Mar 30, 2023 12:40:57 pm
      What ā€œdubiousā€ practices are you talking about ?


      Or are you going to just post a load of waffle again

      Financial priorities before what LFC is primarily about, even with the best manager in the world a top 4 place could be doubtful this season.

      You wax lyrical about past achievements but in the cold light of day LFC cannot compete in the long term with our rivals.

      Personal comment is all you've got in an attempt to provoke.
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      Reply #32916: Mar 30, 2023 12:44:05 pm
      Financial priorities before what LFC is primarily about, even with the best manager in the world a top 4 place could be doubtful this season.

      You wax lyrical about past achievements but in the cold light of day LFC cannot compete in the long term with our rivals.

      Personal comment is all you've got in an attempt to provoke.

      You said ā€œdubiousā€ practises ?


      Where is the ā€œdubiousā€ practise ?


      Or is not spending what you want them to spend now ā€œdubiousā€
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      Reply #32917: Mar 30, 2023 12:46:13 pm
      You said ā€œdubiousā€ practises ?


      Where is the ā€œdubiousā€ practise ?


      Or is not spending what you want them to spend now ā€œdubiousā€

      We've been hearing stuey's "dubious practice" and "milking the asset" argument for years now, so nothing changed ;D
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      Reply #32918: Mar 30, 2023 12:48:35 pm
      We've been hearing stuey's "dubious practice" and "milking the asset" argument for years now, so nothing changed ;D

      It would be nice to see some actual substance from him as opposed to waffle
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      Reply #32919: Mar 30, 2023 01:48:26 pm
      We've been hearing stuey's "dubious practice" and "milking the asset" argument for years now, so nothing changed ;D

      Another nobhead!

      Show me any reference by me about FSG "milking the asset".

      It would be nice to see some actual substance from him as opposed to waffle

      The "substance" is our present status in the Prem, even under the best manager in the world .
      You of course would blame Klopp when the dubious decisions of the owners is more to blame.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32920: Mar 30, 2023 01:59:08 pm
      Another nobhead!

      Show me any reference by me about FSG "milking the asset".

      The "substance" is our present status in the Prem, even under the best manager in the world .
      You of course would blame Klopp when the dubious decisions of the owners is more to blame.


      Sorry but can you please confirm snag these ā€œdubiousā€ decisions you keep bringing up ?!
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      Reply #32921: Mar 30, 2023 02:14:55 pm

      Sorry but can you please confirm snag these ā€œdubiousā€ decisions you keep bringing up ?!

      The manager has requested a solution to the midfield quandary that is costing us dearly, FSG have not responded!
      There has been some talk about FSG putting part of LFC up for sale, this is no doubt an effort to attract some capital to buy a quality midfielder.
      As F***ing dubious as you like.
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      Reply #32922: Mar 30, 2023 02:19:40 pm
      The manager has requested a solution to the midfield quandary that is costing us dearly, FSG have not responded!
      There has been some talk about FSG putting part of LFC up for sale, this is no doubt an effort to attract some capital to buy a quality midfielder.
      As f**king dubious as you like.

      Sorry but Iā€™m confused ?

      1. When did Klopp tell you what he asked FSG and when did they tell you what they said ?


      2. The club spent Ā£140mil this season - it wasnā€™t the owners choice on who that was spent on

      3. And looking to bring in investment?


      Since when has any of that been ā€œdubiousā€ ?
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      Reply #32923: Mar 30, 2023 02:28:56 pm
      Thatā€™s obvious!



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      Reply #32924: Mar 30, 2023 02:40:31 pm

      Ah -donā€™t worry the only confusion is your waffle


      So again - what exactly is ā€œdubiousā€ ?
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      Reply #32925: Mar 30, 2023 03:06:02 pm
      The manager has requested a solution to the midfield quandary that is costing us dearly, FSG have not responded!
      There has been some talk about FSG putting part of LFC up for sale, this is no doubt an effort to attract some capital to buy a quality midfielder.
      As F***ing dubious as you like.




      So again - what exactly is ā€œdubiousā€ ?




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      Reply #32926: Mar 30, 2023 03:10:47 pm
      still not provided anything that means their actions are ā€œdubiousā€ 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø
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      Reply #32927: Mar 30, 2023 04:25:14 pm
      still not provided anything that means their actions are ā€œdubiousā€ 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Listen nobhead you are bound to take that attitude when you will defend FSG with the last breath in your body while the majority here would describe their qualities as a lot worse than 'dubious', just suck it up will ya.
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      Reply #32928: Mar 30, 2023 04:43:36 pm
      Listen nobhead you are bound to take that attitude when you will defend FSG with the last breath in your body while the majority here would describe their qualities as a lot worse than 'dubious', just suck it up will ya.

      So more waffle 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø


      You accused the owners of dubious actions and yet failed to provide anything to prove that



      Now if you had mention their poor actions in regards the Super League or the Trademark then you might have a point


      But crying about transfer spending because the owners do the shocking thing of not spending their own money is not ā€œdubiousā€ by any stretch.


      Once again you just post utter drivel


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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32929: Mar 30, 2023 05:23:37 pm
      I like my waffles with berries and warm syrup.
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      Reply #32930: Mar 31, 2023 02:42:17 am
      I like my waffles with berries and warm syrup.
      Hey I just like Belgium waffles with marg or butter (them type of waffles), but I want to try that whole sweet waffle with chicken or bacon or both thing.
      I like my club when doing well to pump in that to further make us stronger and stronger, very strong in other words so yeah.
      Top manager here still loads of excuses and reasons why we haven't used all the past power through winning to further keep the ball rolling, not having a go at you obviously.
       I'm very grateful for the recent success but never in any dounbt it could have been so much more even before Jurgie started winning cups after getting to finals, the league is the ultimate and how great we've done, these owners though, they do my head in, I feel they are ungrateful, not me.
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      Reply #32931: Mar 31, 2023 04:38:28 am
      The manager has requested a solution to the midfield quandary that is costing us dearly, FSG have not responded!
      I love how some people just make something up in their own head and pass it off as fact.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32932: Mar 31, 2023 05:21:33 am
      Sorry but Iā€™m confused ?

      1. When did Klopp tell you what he asked FSG and when did they tell you what they said ?


      2. The club spent Ā£140mil this season - it wasnā€™t the owners choice on who that was spent on

      3. And looking to bring in investment?


      Since when has any of that been ā€œdubiousā€ ?
      Seriously dude f**k off, no one needs to read some corporate sh*t from you, you are so disrespectful to everyone, condescending patronizing and a complete suck up to the Boston Incubuses, little vampire bas**rds.
      I'm so sick of seeing you respond to every person in the owners thread, it's so creepy and weird.
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      Reply #32933: Mar 31, 2023 08:37:11 am
      Seriously dude f**k off, no one needs to read some corporate sh*t from you, you are so disrespectful to everyone, condescending patronizing and a complete suck up to the Boston Incubuses, little vampire bas**rds.
      I'm so sick of seeing you respond to every person in the owners thread, it's so creepy and weird.


      Yeah you are definitely someone like Heimdall or that Riparnu bloke.
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32934: Mar 31, 2023 12:54:00 pm

      So more waffle 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      You accused the owners of dubious actions and yet failed to provide anything to prove that

      Now if you had mention their poor actions in regards the Super League or the Trademark then you might have a point

      But crying about transfer spending because the owners do the shocking thing of not spending their own money is not ā€œdubiousā€ by any stretch.
      Once again you just post utter drivel

      I'll leave it to you to point out the F**k ups!
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #32935: Mar 31, 2023 01:17:57 pm
      The manager has requested a solution to the midfield quandary that is costing us dearly, FSG have not responded!
      There has been some talk about FSG putting part of LFC up for sale, this is no doubt an effort to attract some capital to buy a quality midfielder.
      As f**king dubious as you like.

      FSG have not responded ā€˜as far as you are aware.ā€™
      No doubt thereā€™s a large number of things that you are not privy to.
      Why donā€™t you wait until you have sound evidence to support your statements, and not just post what you think.
      You wouldnā€™t look so much of a dick then.

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