Trending Topics

      Next match: LFC v Luton [Premier League] Wed 21st Feb @ 7:30 pm - Pre Match Topic
      Anfield

      Today is the 21st of February and on this date LFC's match record is P22 W10 D6 L6

      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

      Read 2480012 times
      0 Members and 12 Guests are viewing this topic.
      billythered
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 10,730 posts | 4851 
      • From Doubters to Champions of the World
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35029: Jan 28, 2024 06:04:18 pm





      I did see the  :f_whistle:

      Still want £50 on it ? 🤪
      Keith Singleton
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 16,382 posts | 2608 
      • Sir Lewis Hamilton
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35030: Jan 28, 2024 06:09:23 pm




      I did see the  :f_whistle:

      Still want £50 on it ? 🤪

      Anyone who gets my £££ earns it Billy.   :lmao: You think I’m made of money, it’s hard enough taking it off the bookies so I’ll make it dam hard to give it back. 😆
      billythered
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 10,730 posts | 4851 
      • From Doubters to Champions of the World
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35031: Jan 28, 2024 06:33:04 pm
      Anyone who gets my £££ earns it Billy.   :lmao: You think I’m made of money, it’s hard enough taking it off the bookies so I’ll make it dam hard to give it back. 😆






      Think I’d be the same mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35032: Feb 07, 2024 11:44:56 am
      If Jürgen Klopp was not required to perform miracles on a regular basis on account of zero financial input from FSG would he be as drained mentally as he is now.
      It is accepted that a post managing Germany's national side would be a less taxing proposition, for that matter any job funded adequately would be preferential to FSG's modus operandi.
      Longy-Shops
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,724 posts | 600 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35033: Feb 07, 2024 12:20:39 pm
      If Jürgen Klopp was not required to perform miracles on a regular basis on account of zero financial input from FSG would he be as drained mentally as he is now.
      It is accepted that a post managing Germany's national side would be a less taxing proposition, for that matter any job funded adequately would be preferential to FSG's modus operandi.
      So according to that logic Chelsea's blank cheque MO is the panacea for managerial health....Statistics don't back that up.
      srslfc
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 32,039 posts | 4840 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35034: Feb 07, 2024 12:33:11 pm
      If Jürgen Klopp was not required to perform miracles on a regular basis on account of zero financial input from FSG would he be as drained mentally as he is now.
      It is accepted that a post managing Germany's national side would be a less taxing proposition, for that matter any job funded adequately would be preferential to FSG's modus operandi.

      Absolutely tiresome as per usual.
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35035: Feb 07, 2024 12:54:26 pm
      Absolutely tiresome as per usual.

      Back to square 1 with FSG false economies and managers galore.

      The club's and FSG's saviour exits, undoubtedly the only manager who could operate successfully under them as events will prove.
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35036: Feb 07, 2024 12:59:05 pm
      So according to that logic Chelsea's blank cheque MO is the panacea for managerial health....Statistics don't back that up.

      Any comparison with Chelsea for whatever reason is invalid!
      Chelsea are an enigma.
      Longy-Shops
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,724 posts | 600 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35037: Feb 07, 2024 01:16:42 pm
      Any comparison with Chelsea for whatever reason is invalid!
      Chelsea are an enigma.
      well you did say "any"...What's so enigmatic about Chelsea?
      Longy-Shops
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,724 posts | 600 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35038: Feb 07, 2024 01:19:06 pm
      Back to square 1 with FSG false economies and managers galore.

      The club's and FSG's saviour exits, undoubtedly the only manager who could operate successfully under them as events will prove.
      That's what's known as a known unknown.
      srslfc
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 32,039 posts | 4840 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35039: Feb 07, 2024 01:23:48 pm
      Back to square 1 with FSG false economies and managers galore.

      Manager's galore is one I enjoy you bringing up.

      This will only be their fourth full time appointment, third if you probably accept Kenny was never going to be along term solution.

      That's in 14 years.

      Not exactly the managers galore you keep bringing up time and time again.
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 12,271 posts | 3180 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35040: Feb 07, 2024 01:49:27 pm
      If Jürgen Klopp was not required to perform miracles on a regular basis on account of zero financial input from FSG would he be as drained mentally as he is now.
      It is accepted that a post managing Germany's national side would be a less taxing proposition, for that matter any job funded adequately would be preferential to FSG's modus operandi.

      What are these miracles ?

      Is that spending £890mil on players


      £80mil on the likes of VVD , £50mil on the likes of Allison

      Who are miracles

      Why is good scouting , recruiting , coaching and management now seen as “miracle” working

      Is that not how it’s supposed to be - it’s called having a club run well
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 12,271 posts | 3180 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35041: Feb 07, 2024 01:51:46 pm
      Back to square 1 with FSG false economies and managers galore.

      The club's and FSG's saviour exits, undoubtedly the only manager who could operate successfully under them as events will prove.

      What “managers galore” ?


      Kenny came in on a short term , they then have had 2 other managers

      Since they have been owners I believe that only Arsenal have had the same number of managers - everyone else , a lot more
      FL Red
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 30,921 posts | 6234 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35042: Feb 07, 2024 03:13:35 pm
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35043: Feb 07, 2024 08:55:25 pm
      Manager's galore is one I enjoy you bringing up.

      This will only be their fourth full time appointment, third if you probably accept Kenny was never going to be along term solution.

      That's in 14 years.

      Not exactly the managers galore you keep bringing up time and time again.

      Not the Liverpool way with the how many managers in 14 years?
      -LFC-
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 4,037 posts | 1154 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35044: Feb 07, 2024 10:27:56 pm
      I think the way Jürgen spoke during his interview you could see it was something deeper than the circumstances of his tenure and the owners. If anything he was at pains to say it had to do with personal reasons. I think at one point he alluded to last season being the stage at which he began having thoughts of leaving but he's also said many times previously that he's always wanted to spend more time with family and live a normal life. You cannot put a price on that. We've been lucky to have him, we're infinitely better off than we were before, and there is a certain Liverpool legend potentially waiting in the wings over in Germany who might take over the reins so that's enough for me to feel optimistic about the future.
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35045: Feb 08, 2024 09:26:57 am
      well you did say "any"...What's so enigmatic about Chelsea?

      What other club has had an owner worth billions who spent a fair amount of that sum on signings and when FFP loomed large abandoned it?
      Chelsea are now a mid-table entity with decidedly gloomy prospects.
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 12,271 posts | 3180 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35046: Feb 08, 2024 09:42:18 am
      Not the Liverpool way with the how many managers in 14 years?

      We have had 4 in 14 years if you include woy

      Before that was 5 in 13 years including Woy

      Before that was 4 in 13 years

      What’s your point
      Longy-Shops
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,724 posts | 600 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35047: Feb 08, 2024 10:33:20 am
      What other club has had an owner worth billions who spent a fair amount of that sum on signings and when FFP loomed large abandoned it?
      Chelsea are now a mid-table entity with decidedly gloomy prospects.
      So what's enigmatic about any of that?
      racerx34
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 33,548 posts | 3804 
      • THE SALT IN THE SOUP
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35048: Feb 08, 2024 11:20:49 am
      A lot of weird, bad faith, narrative being forced in here lately.

      The main points for FSG right now is what do they do post Klopp.

      That should be in motion now and the answer is act quickly to do the following:

      - Get Alonso in as manager.

      - If Alonso wants Florian Wirtz and Piero Hincapié then you get those transfers done.

      Everything else follows from there.

      Adrián, Thiago and Matip leave at the end of their contracts.

      Virgil, Trent and Salah are then the ones you have to urgently address.
      stuey
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 35,931 posts | 3935 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35049: Feb 08, 2024 11:24:10 am
      So what's enigmatic about any of that?

      Their previous success is a questionable riddle in a footballing sense, the only solution involves dodgy finance.
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 12,271 posts | 3180 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35050: Feb 08, 2024 11:27:16 am
      A lot of weird, bad faith, narrative being forced in here lately.

      The main points for FSG right now is what do they do post Klopp.

      That should be in motion now and the answer is act quickly to do the following:

      - Get Alonso in as manager.

      - If Alonso wants Florian Wirtz and Piero Hincapié then you get those transfers done.

      Everything else follows from there.

      Adrián, Thiago and Matip leave at the end of their contracts.

      Virgil, Trent and Salah are then the ones you have to urgently address.

      Think the first recruit is a DoF
      racerx34
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 33,548 posts | 3804 
      • THE SALT IN THE SOUP
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #35051: Feb 08, 2024 11:49:55 am

      That's more of a structural decision.

      Strikes me as a whataboutery response as it doesn't really address any of the points I've made
      but goes off on a tangent.

      Of course the club needs a DoF, but the biggest concern right now is getting the right person in post Klopp.

      Getting a DoF in is something that should also be happening in the backgroud.

      I'm talking about what the club needs to do in a footballing context immediately to deal with life after Klopp.
      Needing a DoF is something that has been needed even with Klopp still in charge.

      Quick Reply