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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Reply #35696: Sep 21, 2024 08:42:55 am
      Fast approaching 14 years 1 EPL 1CL. Bought for Ā£300 mil now valued at Ā£4 billion greedy fuckers tried to trade marque Liverpool then we had price hikes the Super league etc. The only people they support themselves. As for City they won't face sanctions in a points deduction ironically maybe a financial penalty. Get ready for a home game in Boston or the Middle East

      Walt. Careful what you wish for.

      FsG are steady hands.

      Just need to look at state of other clubs,  to see what disasters are round the corner. Going bust, administration etc.

      The mighty sevco Glasgow rangers the best example of how badly it can go with sh*te owners.

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      Reply #35697: Sep 21, 2024 10:45:31 am
      Attempting to label FSG as 'good owners' why is it a worst case scenario is used in comparison?
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      Reply #35698: Sep 21, 2024 12:23:50 pm
      Walt. Careful what you wish for.

      FsG are steady hands.

      Just need to look at state of other clubs,  to see what disasters are round the corner. Going bust, administration etc.

      The mighty sevco Glasgow rangers the best example of how badly it can go with sh*te owners.

      Itā€™s not easy to find the owners that satisfy everything that some people want

      There is no such thing as perfect owners , FSG have made mistakes but there isnā€™t many in the prem I would swap them for
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      Reply #35699: Sep 21, 2024 12:32:29 pm
      Attempting to label FSG as 'good owners' why is it a worst case scenario is used in comparison?

      Hyperbole.

      You've seen worse case scenario owners though in Hicks and Gillet so why the continuous permanent bitching, when FSG are no where near bad as H & G.

      And no attempted fancy F***ing words can change that fact!!
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      Reply #35700: Sep 21, 2024 02:48:28 pm
      Imagine if the way FSG has run our club for 14 years becomes the blueprint for how all clubs will eventually be run. It's looking that way. Just ask the Barcodes.

      We could do a lot worse than FSG. I wish they'd spend more, but that's just the rabid supporter in me. Football's changed. It's more a business now than ever. If they were in it for the money they'd have cashed in by now. Not saying Henry has a Liverbird tattoo or anything, but him sitting on a Ā£250m sale to a Ā£4b potential sale, yet still sticking around and planning for the future, tells me they are serious about Liverpool as a football club. Of course, they are in it for the money. But also for the project.
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      Reply #35701: Sep 21, 2024 02:58:10 pm
      Attempting to label FSG as 'good owners' why is it a worst case scenario is used in comparison?

      Hicks and Gillette

      Remember them?

      Thereā€™s your comparison
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      Reply #35702: Sep 21, 2024 04:04:56 pm
      Hyperbole.

      You've seen worse case scenario owners though in Hicks and Gillet so why the continuous permanent bitching, when FSG are no where near bad as H & G.

      And no attempted fancy F***ing words can change that fact!!

      Nobody mentioned H&G not least of all because their business activities  were proved illegal and fraudulent in a court of law, no sign of fancy F***ing words there but there is no need because you have used the worst comparison possible to flatter FSG.
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      Reply #35703: Sep 21, 2024 04:16:40 pm
      Nobody mentioned H&G not least of all because their business activities  were proved illegal and fraudulent in a court of law, no sign of fancy F***ing words there but there is no need because you have used the worst comparison possible to flatter FSG.

      ā€œworst possible comparisonā€???

      Heā€™s compared the clubā€™s current owners with the previous ones!

      You just donā€™t like it because it shines a whopping great spotlight on how ridiculous your narrative is!

      No oneā€™s saying FSG are perfect, but compared to our most recent owners and compared to current owners of other EPL teams, they are streets ahead.
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      Reply #35704: Sep 21, 2024 06:29:55 pm
      ā€œworst possible comparisonā€???

      Heā€™s compared the clubā€™s current owners with the previous ones!

      You just donā€™t like it because it shines a whopping great spotlight on how ridiculous your narrative is!

      No oneā€™s saying FSG are perfect, but compared to our most recent owners and compared to current owners of other EPL teams, they are streets ahead.

      Nobody with an iota of business acumen would compare FSG with our previous fraudulent owners, only those with an agenda would consider such a concept.
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      Reply #35705: Sep 21, 2024 06:57:42 pm
      Nobody with an iota of business acumen would compare FSG with our previous fraudulent owners, only those with an agenda would consider such a concept.

      Take your pick from any owner in Premier League - which one would you take instead of FSG 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø
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      Reply #35706: Sep 21, 2024 08:47:59 pm
      Take your pick from any owner in Premier League - which one would you take instead of FSG 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Watch him squirm his way out of answering that ... you'll never get a coherant answer from any of the FSG-out brigade to that question
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      Reply #35707: Sep 21, 2024 08:49:38 pm
      Nobody with an iota of business acumen would compare FSG with our previous fraudulent owners, only those with an agenda would consider such a concept.

      We're talking about the owners of Liverpool FC and those pair were the club's owners. It's entirely right to make that comparison because it illustrates how much worse thigns could be.
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      Reply #35708: Sep 22, 2024 02:24:18 pm
      Watch him squirm his way out of answering that ... you'll never get a coherant answer from any of the FSG-out brigade to that question

      Hypotheses is your only alternative.
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      Reply #35709: Sep 22, 2024 02:29:31 pm
      Hypotheses is your only alternative.


      Big words yet meaning F**k all.

      You haven't answered the question posed just dodged around it!!

      Take your pick from any owner in Premier League - which one would you take instead of FSG 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Simple question for any of those bitching about FSG, who would you take from the other owners who would make us a success without cheating like city? 🤔
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      Reply #35710: Sep 22, 2024 02:49:57 pm
      Big words yet meaning F**k all.

      You haven't answered the question posed just dodged around it!!

      Simple question for any of those bitching about FSG, who would you take from the other owners who would make us a success without cheating like city? 🤔

      Itā€™s normally an unanswered question
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      Reply #35711: Sep 22, 2024 02:52:52 pm
      Good question. I'll have a stab.

      The Villa owners. Or maybe Aresnal's owners. Of the two, I'd edge toward Villa.
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      Reply #35712: Sep 22, 2024 03:14:10 pm
      Good question. I'll have a stab.

      The Villa owners. Or maybe Aresnal's owners. Of the two, I'd edge toward Villa.

      👍 interesting 🤔

      What is the difference between the Villa or Arsenal owners and FSG ?

      What would we see different to how we work now
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      Reply #35713: Sep 22, 2024 03:23:26 pm
      Never like the comparisons to H+G. I think we can all agree FSG are 10000x better than those 2 cu*ts.

      But over the years they've made a fair few gaffs. Trademarking, ticket prices, Super League and the transfer window after we won the league title particularly sticks in my craw.

      We went from title winners to loaning bargain basement centre halves in the space of 6 months.

      My opinion will always be the Klopp years were brilliant but could have been better with just a small amount more of financial spending and support.

      A positive net spend for Arne is also not the level of backing we should have expected going into this season.

      But overall you look at where the club was when they took over and where it is now we are back to being a footballing force, even if it is my opinion we allowed clubs to catch us up these last few seasons
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      Reply #35714: Sep 22, 2024 03:26:35 pm
      Big words yet meaning F**k all.

      You haven't answered the question posed just dodged around it!!


      What you wanna know bollox?
      That short enough for ya.
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      Reply #35715: Sep 22, 2024 03:29:28 pm
      Never like the comparisons to H+G. I think we can all agree FSG are 10000x better than those 2 cu*ts.

      But over the years they've made a fair few gaffs. Trademarking, Super League and the transfer window after we won the league title.

      We went from title winners to loaning bargain basement centre halves in the space of 6 months.

      My opinion will always be the Klopp years were brilliant but could have been better with just a small amount more of financial spending and support.

      Itā€™s a fair shout on the mistakes in regards ESL etc but itā€™s hard to see other owners doing much differently when it comes to the EsL

      The ticket prices was the key one and it took action for them to listen and a lot of things took place then

      As for the transfer window after winning the title

      Jota , Thiago , Kostas arrived - FSG didnā€™t pick those players to come nor did they pick the ones to leave - thatā€™s Edwards and Klopp

      The issues through Covid maybe the club were a bit too safe with finances - other clubs took out loans etc to cover it , we decided to be more careful

      As for more trophies - lots of things can be pointed too - we got 93 and 97 points and came second , small decisions here or there stopped it being 3 titles and then the CL - we battered Madrid and Courtois wonder game stopped it being another CL in the bag

      So fine margins stopped it being 3 titles and 2 CLs

      And no one else has gotten closer to a cheating City over the last 8 years

      Last couple of seasons - seems to have been a bit of behind the scenes stuff going on , DoFs leaving every year , aging playing getting extending contracts and players like Nunez coming in for big fees - was that down to Klopp getting more of a say in things ?
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      Reply #35716: Sep 22, 2024 03:30:57 pm
      who would make us a success without cheating like city? 🤔

      That's the other point what would FSG have won without City's silly boys bollocks.

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      Reply #35717: Sep 22, 2024 03:32:53 pm
      That's the other point what would FSG have won without City's silly boys bollocks.

      Without City I believe we would have won 3 more titles

      Chelsea 1 , United 2 and Arsenal 2

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      Reply #35718: Sep 22, 2024 03:41:18 pm
      Never like the comparisons to H+G. I think we can all agree FSG are 10000x better than those 2 cu*ts.

      But over the years they've made a fair few gaffs. Trademarking, ticket prices, Super League and the transfer window after we won the league title particularly sticks in my craw.

      We went from title winners to loaning bargain basement centre halves in the space of 6 months.

      My opinion will always be the Klopp years were brilliant but could have been better with just a small amount more of financial spending and support.

      A positive net spend for Arne is also not the level of backing we should have expected going into this season.

      But overall you look at where the club was when they took over and where it is now we are back to being a footballing force, even if it is my opinion we allowed clubs to catch us up these last few seasons


      Good comment and illustrates the defining factor to the clubā€™s ultimate success - the skill and insight of a manager who was able to bring a measure of success in spite of the financial constraints of FSG.

      Letā€™s hope his replacement can carry on where JĆ¼rgen left off.

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