NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

After just reading Kroenke bought out Arsenal with a £557m loan, a question popped up in my head.

Apart from City, who I think have far and away the best owners in world football (maybe sport), who would those with doubts about FSG pick to own this club out of the other EPL owners? Not just talking about player investment but overall strategy.

After just reading Kroenke bought out Arsenal with a £557m loan, a question popped up in my head.

Apart from City, who I think have far and away the best owners in world football (maybe sport), who would those with doubts about FSG pick to own this club out of the other EPL owners? Not just talking about player investment but overall strategy.

"IF" you are just talking about owners and how they have invested in their respective club then apart from the City owners you have to say Abramovich has put his money where is mouth is. He as invested his own money in the club, and looked to build Chelsea and the CFC brand...

"IF" you are just talking about owners and how they have invested in their respective club then apart from the City owners you have to say Abramovich has put his money where is mouth is. He as invested his own money in the club, and looked to build Chelsea and the CFC brand...

Nah player..Abromovich has bankrolled Chelsea with personal loans which would be repaid by the club..

City owners have been fantastic but honestly speaking after starting off slowly with their custodianship of LFC I think we have the 2nd best owners in world football.

After just reading Kroenke bought out Arsenal with a £557m loan, a question popped up in my head.

Apart from City, who I think have far and away the best owners in world football (maybe sport), who would those with doubts about FSG pick to own this club out of the other EPL owners? Not just talking about player investment but overall strategy.

None.

"IF" you are just talking about owners and how they have invested in their respective club then apart from the City owners you have to say Abramovich has put his money where is mouth is. He as invested his own money in the club, and looked to build Chelsea and the CFC brand...

Without doubt that is the case.
Top Prem. sides have owners who are prepared to invest, in the true sense of the word, in their respective clubs and their elevated position is proof that something in that concept is perfectly feasible.

Only the FA cup..? Standards have dropped Rib, what's happened?.

Standards have certainly slipped and if it were not for the club's history, status and support which some PL clubs do not have, LFC could very well be in the sh*t.
One trophy in 8 years is a failing to a club of LFC's size.

Standards have certainly slipped and if it were not for the club's history, status and support which some PL clubs do not have, LFC could very well be in the sh*t.
One trophy in 8 years is a failing to a club of LFC's size.

Small margins but we could have had 3 Trophies under Klopp...but let's blame owners..

Soz to highlight that from your post mate but I just want to use it to point out something about city's owners.

It's not all done out of love with them and definitely not all out of their seemingly bottomless pockets, as part of the takeover the Mansoor family were given every single contract for the regeneration of Manchester, if the council decided them old quayside dock buildings needed turning into luxury apartments, they do it. A new apartment complex on that old waste ground? They get it.

I'm not knocking them, business is business, but as part of the purchase of city they now own a F***ing lot of Manchester city centre so it's not all for the love of football.

But when you look at how they're also operating Melbourne City, New York City, Man City Women etc. and improving their digital strategy, sponsorship and branding, I don't think there can be any question they're really building an empire.

"IF" you are just talking about owners and how they have invested in their respective club then apart from the City owners you have to say Abramovich has put his money where is mouth is. He as invested his own money in the club, and looked to build Chelsea and the CFC brand...

Investment is one thing but even that has dried up recently. And they're pretty stale compared to their direct competition in terms of off-field competitiveness.

Without doubt that is the case.
Top Prem. sides have owners who are prepared to invest, in the true sense of the word, in their respective clubs and their elevated position is proof that something in that concept is perfectly feasible.

Surprise, surprise.

Did you know Abramovich is owed over £1bn in which he will take back from Chelsea at some point?

Awesome investment model.

Funny how no one mentions the the Glazers use the exact same model that H&G did, but get away with it because united spent years building commercial revenue and global reach, as well as their huge stadium.

It's their cash cow, and they take a lot of money out of the club every year.

The only reason utd aren't fu**ed is because they spent the whole of the 90's and first decade of this century maximising revenue streams outside of the stadium.

meanwhile, we couldn't even negotiate a decent F***ing deal for the shirt sponsor.

Investment is one thing but even that has dried up recently. And they're pretty stale compared to their direct competition in terms of off-field competitiveness.

Are they not still buying players, they also had the second highest transfer spend in 2017/18 season £202m only behind City...and one the 2016/17 title

Surprise, surprise.

Did you know Abramovich is owed over £1bn in which he will take back from Chelsea at some point?

Awesome investment model.

Mate, at least he has the confidence to invest his own money in to the club,believing that he can make the brand successful enough to repay that money, something FSG has not done

Are they not still buying players, they also had the second highest transfer spend in 2017/18 season £202m only behind City...and one the 2016/17 title

Where did that get them..

Mate, at least he has the confidence to invest his own money in to the club,believing that he can make the brand successful enough to repay that money, something FSG has not done

Only confident knowing he will get his loans back.. When you spend a £billion you expect to progress on/off the pitch..Chelase have regressed & look more and more likely to become a spent force...

Where did that get them..

Only confident knowing he will get his loans back.. When you spend a £billion you expect to progress on/off the pitch..Chelase have regressed & look more and more likely to become a spent force...

They have been winning trophies on a regular basis since the Roman took over and grown the fan base world wide especially among  the African nations so were is the nation that Chelsea have made little to no progress off field?

Surprise, surprise.

Did you know Abramovich is owed over £1bn in which he will take back from Chelsea at some point?

Awesome investment model.

As opposed to JWH&Co who are owed F**k all by LFC because the put F**k all into the club.

Small margins but we could have had 3 Trophies under Klopp...but let's blame owners..

One trophy in 8 years is a failing, no cabinet for 'nearly'.

As opposed to JWH&Co who are owed f**k all by LFC because the put f**k all into the club.

He can claim it at some later point.

Mate, at least he has the confidence to invest his own money in to the club,believing that he can make the brand successful enough to repay that money, something FSG has not done

He has invested over £1bn after purchasing and the entire club is valued at £1.5bn. There is no way they are repaying that figure in his life time without gutting the sh*t out of them and leaving them in a mess.

FSG bought us for £300m and would sell the club for over £2bn.

How the F**k have they not invested in the club and managed to increase the value by nearly 600%?

As opposed to JWH&Co who are owed F**k all by LFC because the put F**k all into the club.

You’re special.

Managing to completely deflect a ONE BILLION POUND loan after you praised his investment strategy.

He can claim it at some later point.

I've no doubt mate.

He has invested over £1bn after purchasing and the entire club is valued at £1.5bn. There is no way they are repaying that figure in his life time without gutting the sh*t out of them and leaving them in a mess.

FSG bought us for £300m and would sell the club for over £2bn.

How the F**k have they not invested in the club and managed to increase the value by nearly 600%?

You’re special.

Managing to completely deflect a ONE BILLION POUND loan after you praised his investment strategy.

You're a F***ing cracker.
 
F**k Chelski anyway but they have more trophies than us in the last 8 years

JWH&Co have not "invested" in LFC!!
They got us out of the clutches of H&G with £260m....bought the undoubted asset that LFC represents for  £260m!!
A F***ing gift as the consequent year on year profitability proved.

The stadium was extended with a loan to the club further boosting the club's market value, estimated at well over £1bn at this moment in time.

Where in that statement of fact is there any mention of any monies put into the club by the owners apart from the initial bargain £260m acquisition payment?

The profits have been generated on the back of LFC while JWH contemplates the success of his bargain holding in his Boston enclave.

These facts have also been described to you previously but you seem to feign amnesia for whatever reason.

He has invested over £1bn after purchasing and the entire club is valued at £1.5bn. There is no way they are repaying that figure in his life time without gutting the sh*t out of them and leaving them in a mess.

FSG bought us for £300m and would sell the club for over £2bn.

How the f**k have they not invested in the club and managed to increase the value by nearly 600%?

LFC is value at a little shy of £1.5bn which means FSG 300m is actually nearer a 530% increase and they have managed this
by mainly using the Clubs money, and Ad revenues and promoting the brand worldwide, and not investing their own money

You say that Chelsea is worth 1.5bn?...  Abramovich paid £140m for the club that's 1,020% plus on his investment

He wanted to buy and demolish the old Battersea power station to build a new stadium for Chelsea but, the Council turned him down
Plus Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has rejected a £2 billion offer for the club as recently as June 2018... Sound like commitment to me

Would be interesting to see if FSG was offered 2bn for Liverpool just how long they would hang around for

You're a f**king cracker.
 
F**k Chelski anyway but they have more trophies than us in the last 8 years

JWH&Co have not "invested" in LFC!!
They got us out of the clutches of H&G with £260m....bought the undoubted asset that LFC represents for  £260m!!
A f**king gift as the consequent year on year profitability proved.

The stadium was extended with a loan to the club further boosting the club's market value, estimated at well over £1bn at this moment in time.

Where in that statement of fact is there any mention of any monies put into the club by the owners apart from the initial bargain £260m acquisition payment?

The profits have been generated on the back of LFC while JWH contemplates the success of his bargain holding in his Boston enclave.

These facts have also been described to you previously but you seem to feign amnesia for whatever reason.

So what you are effectively lobbying for is to be run by businessmen that aren’t very smart at business?

In other words, you want businessmen that put in their own money to try and turn a profit vs businessmen who leverage the equity of their investment?

So you are looking for a fairy tale then. Just to be clear.

It’s called OPM Stuart and it’s always proved to be the smartest way to get ahead in business. If you don’t know the acronym I’m sure someone can explain it to you in eloquent terms.

So what you are effectively lobbying for is to be run by businessmen that aren’t very smart at business?

In other words, you want businessmen that put in their own money to try and turn a profit vs businessmen who leverage the equity of their investment?

So you are looking for a fairy tale then. Just to be clear.

It’s called OPM Stuart and it’s always proved to be the smartest way to get ahead in business. If you don’t know the acronym I’m sure someone can explain it to you in eloquent terms.

tbh I've never see so much energy expended on a subject that people can do F**k all about; it's one thing if the discussion freshen's up and new opinions are exchanged...but 6-7 years running and it's the exact same everything.

Could have resolved world peace and hunger with the amount of brain power sucked into the topic

Small margins but we could have had 3 Trophies under Klopp...but let's blame owners..

lack of numbers and quality in the squad leaving a threadbare team at the most important part of the season if its not the club then they should have sacked Jürgen for failing three times despite them backing him fully?.

LFC is value at a little shy of £1.5bn which means FSG 300m is actually nearer a 530% increase and they have managed this
by mainly using the Clubs money, and Ad revenues and promoting the brand worldwide, and not investing their own money

No, but whatever.

Would you prefer they used consultants and outside expertise rather than their own, and run up massive bills as a consequence?

You people really don't think things through, do you, in your quest for more pluses.