So you are in favor of loans then where it's beneficial and prudent? Or you are only ok with loans when it's for the grounds but not for players?
Yes I have no issue with the stadium being built up and it’s an area that will provide guarantee payback as opposed to loaning money for players who then could have issues , lose value , get injured or struggle so you end up having a poor player plus debt
When has the club spent "more" money on players? Year in and year out the net expenditure on players is very minimal. So we aren't spending "more" unless we are selling "more".
So you only see the spend in terms of a transfer fee - nothing about the increased wages , signing on fees , agent fees , bonuses - unless you have missed the increased financial outlay
Funny how you cherry pick risks where I believe I noted "prudent". No they shouldn't take stupid risks, but if they are the astute business men you make them out to be, then they should understand and have an appetite for prudent risks. Try not twisting what I'm saying to fit your baseless argument.
A risk is still a risk - adding debt will always be risky. Even more so if for any reason the clubs finances drop and loan repayments start to eat away at income
Why did the club make a loss? I thought you said that we only spent what we made? If we are registering a loss then it looks like we are spending more than we make?
Why do you think we made a loss ? Because we still had to pay out wages to staff despite a drop in income because of Covid
No, it gets dismissed because it's not like the club have a bank account of cash reserved for player acquisitions and they dip into it for player sales. A large majority of that outlay has been recouped either prior to or after the purchases by way of player sales. You conveniently like to ignore that aspect of things to make it sound like we are spending that money ON TOP of what we already have in our squad.
I haven’t ignored anything - the club have spent that money on players - they have used that money to bring in players like Alisson , VVD , Mo , Mane , Jota - can you recall the squad when Klopp arrived ? And can you see it now ?
I think it's you who needs to be honest with yourself and everyone else here and just admit you care more about defending FSG and their "image" than you do the club itself.
Far from it - I recall walking out in protest at the ticket prices , I also recall what the club and team was like the two years before they bought us , I also recall 20 years before that of missing out in Europe , no where near the level we used to be , watching Utd over take us - I sat in the stand week in week out watching us battle for 4/5/6th place. And then I look at the club now and see how far we have gone
At no point did I say we shoudl be in for Mbappe and Haaland. Go read what I said again and this time try not to misrepresent it.
Really? So they won't benefit from the value of the club going through the roof? When they do one day sell they'll pocket enough to buy a couple more clubs easily if they want to. And good for them to an extent...if they leave the club better than they found it fair enough, but if they don't leave the club as good as they should have, well screw them then.
They aren’t selling the club though are they .
It’s an accusation that gets thrown at them about how much money they will make but yet there is no talk of selling - bids haven’t been entertained yet it continues to be thrown at them
So supporters of this club, a club that through it's history was able to dominate England and Europe for long periods should give up on that desire and just be happy that we're "fiscally sound"? People shouldn't be "greedy" for success? Like who even thinks that. If you want to be a bigger fan of the owners than the club, have at it. Not sure why you even watch football though if that's the case.
I noticed you also cherry picked
Can you recall life in 2009 ? Can you recall the state of the club , the debt , the mid table battles , the poor squad
They took the club on - they promised no debt - they said they would help deliver success , guess what
We all want success , we want to win trophies , but not everyone just wants to see the club go and spend money it doesn’t have , get money from banks to leverage on the club , use the personal bank account of an owner to buy players
Why can’t we continue to have success in the same way we have had over the last 5 years , why do things have to change ? Why can’t we trust the clubs systems on and off the pitch to deliver the success. I’ll take that success all day long