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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #30314: Jan 14, 2022 12:31:02 pm
      Why do we have to sell Mane...? If we wanted to as a club retain Mane & Salah & go all in on Bellingham, Halland then what’s stopping us other than a bid being rejected..?



      Just you said we sold Torres and bought Suarez so I thought that showed you're ok with selling one to buy another.

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      Reply #30315: Jan 14, 2022 12:40:44 pm
      It amazing how everyone makes it seems so easy just to go out and buy players.
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      Reply #30316: Jan 14, 2022 12:49:08 pm
      It amazing how everyone makes it seems so easy just to go out and buy players.

      Well not trying makes it impossible, and reading between the lines, the line being no value in January, we wont be trying which means we continue on 4 fronts hoping that Taki, ox, Milner, Origi to name a few all of a sudden come into  unbelievable form.

      Sorry but anyone who thinks 1 win in 6 is ok or acceptable is gone soft, others blaming lack of games when we have had 3 in 11 days and others blaming the loss of Mo and Mane yet everyone knew that was coming months and months ago.

      And the 1 in 6 would be easier to accept playing well and just not getting the results, but we are playing bang average stuff at the minute. And on a personal level Im getting a pain in my arse seeing teams set up the same wsy to stop us and us not learning in any way shape or form how to combat it, is Milner the answer to breaking teams down? No but how often is he first sub in?

      Clubs will sell in January it is done
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      Reply #30317: Jan 14, 2022 01:42:40 pm
      What’s the point you’re trying to make 🤷‍♂️

      He doesn't have a point these days. He just seems to be on a permanent wind up and trying to emulate the pathetic banter boys bellend behaviour everytime we have Villa at home.

      Must be a brummie thing!!
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      Reply #30318: Jan 14, 2022 01:46:19 pm
      Everyone has a price mate, everyone.. got Virgil in Jan didn’t we...? Sold Torres & bought in Suarez in Jan..

      We only bought VVD in Jan because we couldn't get him earlier because of the tapping up thing.
      Torres/Suarez and don't forget overspending on Carroll too.
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      Reply #30319: Jan 14, 2022 01:48:18 pm
      It amazing how everyone makes it seems so easy just to go out and buy players.

      Years ago when Playstation had the slogan "live in your world, play in ours" many people seem to have misinterpreted it to be "play in your world, live in ours" and they now think transfers and contract extensions can be done by pressing the X button a few times.
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      Reply #30320: Jan 14, 2022 01:53:30 pm
      It amazing how everyone makes it seems so easy just to go out and buy players.

      I know right. It's hard to believe that anyone ever gets bought or sold, as hard it is to buy players. It's like those times that Barcelona came calling for Suarez and then Coutinho and the club was like "F**k off" and then Barca was like "ok fine keep them".

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      Reply #30321: Jan 14, 2022 02:08:19 pm
      Just you said we sold Torres and bought Suarez so I thought that showed you're ok with selling one to buy another.



      No mate, Gutted when Torres left, we didn’t have to sell to Chelsea but by selling we bought in Carroll & Suarez, one worked the other... well..
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      Reply #30322: Jan 14, 2022 02:13:37 pm
      He doesn't have a point these days. He just seems to be on a permanent wind up and trying to emulate the pathetic banter boys bellend behaviour everytime we have Villa at home.

      Must be a brummie thing!!

      Emulate...😂
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      Reply #30323: Jan 14, 2022 02:17:55 pm
      We knew the squad wasn’t strong enough before the season started, especially with 2 of our front 3 going to AFCON.

      The FSG supporters told us we couldn’t sign any players because the club only spends what it earns. So the club must earn nothing then. Poorly ran?

      Then the FSG supporters told us our squad was strong enough to compete in all competitions even though we have several players littered in our squad with known injury problems.

      Then the FSG supporters told us we couldn’t bring anybody in because we already had too many players on our books. Ignoring the fact we had to keep those players because there’s no money to bring anybody in.

      Now the FSG supporters are telling us it’s extremely difficult to sign players, especially during covid, even though other clubs up and down country are regularly signing players.

      Not replacing Gini was criminal, regardless whether you rated him or not. He was part of our first 11 and played week in, week out. To say thiago or elliott were his replacement is just laughable.

      Going into this season with Fabinho, Hendo (lost a yard, injury prone), Milner (lost 5 yards), Keita (injury prone), Thiago (injury prone), Elliott (out of position), Curtis Jones (not good enough), Ox (not good enough) was a joke.

      Mane and Bobby have both aged too and one of the reasons why a few of our players have declined is because they play far too many games at this intense level, because our bench or backup isn’t anywhere near good enough.

      Klopps era at liverpool could and should have been so much more. We have the best manager in the world who has built a great eleven. We’ve won trophies. Yet when he leaves there will still be some regret which is madness.

      And when he goes in 2024 we will be scrapping for a Europa league place with the likes of West Ham and Everton because of these sh*te Minge bag owners.
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      Reply #30324: Jan 14, 2022 02:31:03 pm
      We knew the squad wasn’t strong enough before the season started, especially with 2 of our front 3 going to AFCON.

      The FSG supporters told us we couldn’t sign any players because the club only spends what it earns. So the club must earn nothing then. Poorly ran?

      Then the FSG supporters told us our squad was strong enough to compete in all competitions even though we have several players littered in our squad with known injury problems.

      Then the FSG supporters told us we couldn’t bring anybody in because we already had too many players on our books. Ignoring the fact we had to keep those players because there’s no money to bring anybody in.

      Now the FSG supporters are telling us it’s extremely difficult to sign players, especially during covid, even though other clubs up and down country are regularly signing players.

      Not replacing Gini was criminal, regardless whether you rated him or not. He was part of our first 11 and played week in, week out. To say thiago or elliott were his replacement is just laughable.

      Going into this season with Fabinho, Hendo (lost a yard, injury prone), Milner (lost 5 yards), Keita (injury prone), Thiago (injury prone), Elliott (out of position), Curtis Jones (not good enough), Ox (not good enough) was a joke.

      Mane and Bobby have both aged too and one of the reasons why a few of our players have declined is because they play far too many games at this intense level, because our bench or backup isn’t anywhere near good enough.

      Klopps era at liverpool could and should have been so much more. We have the best manager in the world who has built a great eleven. We’ve won trophies. Yet when he leaves there will still be some regret which is madness.

      And when he goes in 2024 we will be scrapping for a Europa league place with the likes of West Ham and Everton because of these sh*te Minge bag owners.

      well well well, look who's up from his slumber. Right on cue after we drop points.
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      Reply #30325: Jan 14, 2022 02:44:33 pm
      well well well, look who's up from his slumber. Right on cue after we drop points.

      We didn’t drop points, we drew the first leg of a cup tie, but maybe you don’t know how the league cup works over in America?

      You’re right though I spend a lot less time on the forum now. A dozen or so good posters no longer come on and theres too many bellends on it for my liking now. The type of bellends who continue to talk sh*te because they’re too immature to admit they were wrong, or the type of bellends who quote people with ‘well well well’ etc.
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      Reply #30326: Jan 14, 2022 03:21:52 pm

      Well you been acting like this at least since the days of Trump, what is it lad mid-life crisis?
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      Reply #30327: Jan 14, 2022 03:27:43 pm
      Well you been acting like this at least since the days of Trump, what is it lad mid-life crisis?

      Trump..? Not sure what your on about kiddo...



      Anyway.... FSG Ambitions...

      https://twitter.com/johngibbonsblog/status/1481743438726975490?s=21
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      Reply #30328: Jan 14, 2022 04:07:55 pm
      We knew the squad wasn’t strong enough before the season started, especially with 2 of our front 3 going to AFCON.


      Who is this “we” - the manager and his team were happy with the squad


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      The FSG supporters told us we couldn’t sign any players because the club only spends what it earns. So the club must earn nothing then. Poorly ran?


      Did we not buy Konate ? And do we also not have other bills to pay ? For example a very high wage bill for all those players - the club made an overall loss of ÂŁ50mil in the last reported accounts

      The club spend within its means


      Covid had impacts even if some want to ignore it

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      Then the FSG supporters told us our squad was strong enough to compete in all competitions even though we have several players littered in our squad with known injury problems.


      Are we not competing on all fronts right now ?


      Not one single trophy is out of reach - semi of the league cup , still in the FA Cup , unbeaten in the CL and not out of the Prem race

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      Then the FSG supporters told us we couldn’t bring anybody in because we already had too many players on our books. Ignoring the fact we had to keep those players because there’s no money to bring anybody in.


      I don’t understand this bit - the Prem has HG and Non HG rules - I believe we have no space for any Non HG players 🤷‍♂️- not sure what players we “had” to keep but if no one is looking to buy them what should the club do with them ?
      When it comes to the size of the squad - Klopp always seems to prefer the smaller squad - seems to be his choice
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      Now the FSG supporters are telling us it’s extremely difficult to sign players, especially during covid, even though other clubs up and down country are regularly signing players.


      Signing players isn’t easy - some clubs will be wanting players to leave , some will fight hard to keep them - some pay over the odds for players and some use a release clause ?

      Is there any player been bought by a club right now that we should have been in for


      Wood - release clause ÂŁ25mil 😂
      Coutinho - offered to every club on the planet
      Digne -not wanted by the Bitters ?

      We sign players when the club find the right player for them - just because someone is shouting on a forum about buying this player and that doesn’t mean it’s what the club want to do.

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      Not replacing Gini was criminal, regardless whether you rated him or not. He was part of our first 11 and played week in, week out. To say thiago or elliott were his replacement is just laughable.

      It’s only laughable because it doesn’t fit in with your opinion - both Klopp and Pep have used Elliot as the example of youth players coming through to be given their chance instead of bringing someone in. Again it’s the clubs choice

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      Going into this season with Fabinho, Hendo (lost a yard, injury prone), Milner (lost 5 yards), Keita (injury prone), Thiago (injury prone), Elliott (out of position), Curtis Jones (not good enough), Ox (not good enough) was a joke.

      How midfielders should we have ?

      Who has decided that Elliot is out of position ? You ? Does the manager have a better seat to make that judgment after seeing the player ? And Jones is now not good enough ?

      Again it’s seeing it from your single point of view

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      Mane and Bobby have both aged too and one of the reasons why a few of our players have declined is because they play far too many games at this intense level, because our bench or backup isn’t anywhere near good enough.


      We have lost twice all season

      Reading the reactions from some you would think we have gone back 10 years to being mid table , out of all the cups


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      Klopps era at liverpool could and should have been so much more. We have the best manager in the world who has built a great eleven. We’ve won trophies. Yet when he leaves there will still be some regret which is madness.

      And when he goes in 2024 we will be scrapping for a Europa league place with the likes of West Ham and Everton because of these sh*te Minge bag owners.

      The owners work the same way as they have done since they bought the club - self sustaining, that hasn’t changed and it won’t change , so I don’t understand why some expect it to

      10 years ago this club was in a mess - and then there was something to complain about , we were a world away from where we are now


      It’s tough to win - teams have to be near perfect  every season to challenge the oil barons - the manager knows this and appears to enjoy the challenge of it.

      At times the players will play poorly - it happens and you expect and hope it’s then up the manager to sort it out


      But this constant reacting to every dropped points and pointing fingers at the owners or when we only draw in a cup game demand signings etc - it’s a joke ,  but that’s modern football these days , the unrealistic demands of perfection

      Im just glad that going into the stadium the overall attitude and demeanour by those fans is completely different to what is seen on social media - yeah we will have a grumble when it’s not working on the pitch and will complain when the owners make real poor choices but they throwing the teddies out when a point is dropped - pathetic

      As far as I’m concerned right now the team is challenging for all four trophies on offer - the world hasn’t fallen apart - far from it , the club is in its best position for 30 F***ing years and that’s because of the great work of all the club from top to bottom .
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      Reply #30329: Jan 14, 2022 04:21:44 pm
      10 years ago this club was in a mess...🙄


      What have we won under FSG 10 year ownership..?

      Now what did we win the 10 years before FSG ownership...?
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      Reply #30330: Jan 14, 2022 04:28:35 pm
      10 years ago this club was in a mess...🙄


      What have we won under FSG 10 year ownership..?

      Now what did we win the 10 years before FSG ownership...?

      I know you're trying to get a reaction but what can't be disputed is we won the hardest of them all under their tenure.

      You know the one we've been waiting decades for.

      You'd rather go back 10 years would you?

      What a silly post
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      Reply #30331: Jan 14, 2022 04:29:51 pm
      I know you're trying to get a reaction but what can't be disputed is we won the hardest of them all under their tenure.

      You know the one we've been waiting decades for.

      Whats the f**king problem mate..? Does every question or post I put up has to be a rise or to get a reaction..?

      FFS man..

      You seem to be the only one who’s reacting..🙄

      Was a genuine question... yes we won the 19th but we won more before FSG bought us...

      That’s one for the FSG saviours out there...they never saved us.
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      Reply #30332: Jan 14, 2022 04:32:35 pm
      Whats the f**king problem mate..? Does every question or post I put up has to be a rise or to get a reaction..?

      FFS man..

      You seem to be the only one who’s reacting..🙄

      I've seen this game from you before Shabs.

      Look if you think the club is in anyway in a worse state than it was in the previous 10 years your a fool.

      I don't think you are stupid though which is why I think you post sh*te like this to get a reaction from certain posters.
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      Reply #30333: Jan 14, 2022 04:32:42 pm
      10 years ago this club was in a mess...🙄


      What have we won under FSG 10 year ownership..?

      Now what did we win the 10 years before FSG ownership...?

      Well we never won the F***ing league 10 years before..... so FSG already 1-0 up!!
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      Reply #30334: Jan 14, 2022 04:33:35 pm
      10 years ago this club was in a mess...🙄


      What have we won under FSG 10 year ownership..?

      Now what did we win the 10 years before FSG ownership...?


      We have won the League , The CL , the EFL cup and the World Club cup


      Previous ten years was

      CL , UEFA Cup , Two FA Cups and Two league Cups


      When FSG bought us we 18th in the league I think it was - just been beaten by Blackpool at home

      Out of the EFL cup to Northampton


      Our squad consisted of the

      Koncheskey
      Kyrgiakos
      Jovanovic
      Ngog
      Speaking
      Poulsen

      Close to be one of the worst squads in recent memory

      The club was under the control of the bank with leveraged debt


      So yes the club was in a mess
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      Reply #30335: Jan 14, 2022 04:34:14 pm
      Whats the f**king problem mate..? Does every question or post I put up has to be a rise or to get a reaction..?

      FFS man..

      You seem to be the only one who’s reacting..🙄

      Was a genuine question... yes we won the 19th but we won more before FSG bought us...

      That’s one for the FSG saviours out there...they never saved us.

      F**k off you soft tw*t. Did we F**k.

      We've won the league that trumps any sh*te you're on about.
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      Reply #30336: Jan 14, 2022 04:36:37 pm
      F**k off you soft tw*t. Did we f**k.

      We've won the league that trumps any sh*te you're on about.

      ;D...so we have won more Under FSG... 😂

      Easily pleased. one PL trophy and you have been appeased...

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