NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Yes we did it before and you know full well how them players got funded , and the bar has been well and truly raised

he seems to think Businesses dont use finance to trade what a shock he is in for out of 2 million businesses with Bank accounts 750,000 trade with debt from the bank that is most business not just large business. most companies use finance to trade through the year unless they are lucky enough to have a positive cash flow.  FSG choose not to use finance to buy players because it would affect their profit when they sell up .

Yes he will have some of his own money but it’s not the level of personal funds that buy football players. And FSG is more than just Henry

Henry net worth is in the assets that FSG own


And a company owning a football club doesn’t mean they have to spend their own personal money on buying players - it’s a sports business that self finances through the revenue it earns.

Only in the perfect world ,

Anfield Talk

"Next summer is being talked about as a 'big one' for Liverpool according to Neil Jones. Could we see Liverpool make a move for Jude Bellingham next summer?"

"This was in 2021, it's now 2023 and we are still waiting for that "Big Summer"...."

Yes he will have some of his own money but it’s not the level of personal funds that buy football players. And FSG is more than just Henry

Henry net worth is in the assets that FSG own


And a company owning a football club doesn’t mean they have to spend their own personal money on buying players - it’s a sports business that self finances through the revenue it earns.

Hows this man still on here talks absolute wet to support his own narrative and shoots down anyone who's thoughts sways from his. Honestly your posts sound like little soundbites you've picked up over the years, and you think that sounds good. Obviously your business knowledge is very limited even though you post on the subject like your Donald Trumps godson, you really don't know.

So when you write  'Henry's net worth is in the assets that FSG own' you either just don't know or just lying!
Either way you shouldn't spread false information. John Henry has much more diverse portfolio that doesn't  involve FSG. A simple google search of the man would allow you to learn this, the man has amassed a lot of property and business's such as the Boston Globe just to name one

Have a check on The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, US version of company house. It might get you to revise your statement as you can see how many pies John's fingers are in.

Yes, let's wait and see what happens this summer.

Thing is, Bellingham looks to be a genuine "once in a generation" player. He looks to have everything. Is it really that absurd to want FSG to dip in and find the money for this "once in a generation" player? Our midfield would be sorted for the next 15 years with him in the centre. Just once it would be nice to see FSG surprise, everyone.

Just once.

Edit: Or sell him to Madrid for £200m in three to four years time. Everyone wins.

The Bellingham situation is far from over Imo and still has a long way to go yet

But it won’t mean the owners using their own personal money to buy players , they may use credit lines etc

Interesting:

“We had money kept for Tchouameni (around 60m if I’m not wrong). We earned 100m+ from last season’s UCL run alone. We earned from winning domestic cups and coming second in the PL. That’s almost 60m. We will earn at least 45m from this season UCL run. Not to mention TV rights, Merchandise, sponsors etc. Do they seriously want us to believe they don’t have money to go for Bellingham and if they do, the rebuild will be in jeopardy?”

– skint_git22

he seems to think Businesses dont use finance to trade what a shock he is in for out of 2 million businesses with Bank accounts 750,000 trade with debt from the bank that is most business not just large business. most companies use finance to trade through the year unless they are lucky enough to have a positive cash flow.  FSG choose not to use finance to buy players because it would affect their profit when they sell up .

With your track record of financial nonsense I’m not sure you really should be contributing

Interesting:

“We had money kept for Tchouameni (around 60m if I’m not wrong). We earned 100m+ from last season’s UCL run alone. We earned from winning domestic cups and coming second in the PL. That’s almost 60m. We will earn at least 45m from this season UCL run. Not to mention TV rights, Merchandise, sponsors etc. Do they seriously want us to believe they don’t have money to go for Bellingham and if they do, the rebuild will be in jeopardy?”

– skint_git22

Pretty spot on that LIP will dismiss them figures though .

The Bellingham situation is far from over Imo and still has a long way to go yet

But it won’t mean the owners using their own personal money to buy players , they may use credit lines etc

I don’t think it’s over but fsg need to seriously up their game plan

Interesting:

“We had money kept for Tchouameni (around 60m if I’m not wrong). We earned 100m+ from last season’s UCL run alone. We earned from winning domestic cups and coming second in the PL. That’s almost 60m. We will earn at least 45m from this season UCL run. Not to mention TV rights, Merchandise, sponsors etc. Do they seriously want us to believe they don’t have money to go for Bellingham and if they do, the rebuild will be in jeopardy?”

– skint_git22

Last season we earned around £269mil from the broadcasting/ comps etc

£150mil from PL , £100mil from CL and a couple of mil from the Cup

The Telly rights are included in that


Commercial is around £260mil

Matchday around £90mil


Offset that with a wage bill of around £350mil ( 60% of revenue) and £130mil of expenses

Pretty spot on that LIP will dismiss them figures though .

The figures are close - just a few anomalies and also ignore the elephant in the room - outgoings 😉

There’s not much talk ( so far ) in the United came any signs of Bellingham coming to us. If anything it’s City. 🤢 Can you imagine what this will do to our league if they get him? It will end up like the Scottish league with City involved every year and maybe one of the so called top 6 giving them a run. Let’s me honest too, it will only be a run as there in another league at moment. Once again they’ve come good at the right time. 🤢

Seems like it Keith, KDB, Gundogan in particular are in their twilight zone so unlike us they can bring in their replacements a season or two before they are required, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Gundogan goes this season and Bellingham arrives, right now the stars are circulating and dancing but will soon align and the cheating fraudulent cnuts will get their man,

I’m actually not so sure we were 100% after him anyway, most of what I’ve read was click bait, nothing substantial, just the usual speculation cos we need to strengthen, so every man and his cat assumed he was Anfield bound, of course Jürgen admires him but then so does every other manager in Europe,
I’m not making excuses for our tight arsed owners but, IF they are indeed going to spunk north of £200m it’s unlikely half of that will go on one player, that obviously makes sense, when we need up to 5/6 players, another point to make is FSG refuse to be bullied into paying over inflated prices that have been ramped up by the likes of the Fraudsters, Chavs etc etc and I concur,

You mentioned yourself it’s becoming increasingly likely that the EPL will indeed become like the Scots premier league, up there as you know it’s a two horse race, but they’ve lost the f***in horse,

Eventually the same will happen in the EPL unless the hapless authorities introduce some sort of financial cap and force prices down or maximise the price say at £60-£80m, I dunno I’m no number cruncher, however we can’t allow the oligarchs to keep upping the ante that’s for sure!!


YNWA

With your track record of financial nonsense I’m not sure you really should be contributing

Arrogant opinionated jerk

Arrogant opinionated jerk

😂😂

That’s not a nice thing to say about Walton

Liverpool have over 100m fans. If we set up a gofundme page and every fan donated £1.50 we could sign bellingham.

😂😂

That’s not a nice thing to say about Walton

That’s how arrogant you are

That’s how arrogant you are

Oh so someone is ok to continue post insults and I’m not ok to respond 🤷‍♂️

It’s not my issue he struggles with the financial aspects of the club - you had the same issue with the belief the money was going into their pockets

Hows this man still on here talks absolute wet to support his own narrative and shoots down anyone who's thoughts sways from his. Honestly your posts sound like little soundbites you've picked up over the years, and you think that sounds good. Obviously your business knowledge is very limited even though you post on the subject like your Donald Trumps godson, you really don't know.

So when you write  'Henry's net worth is in the assets that FSG own' you either just don't know or just lying!
Either way you shouldn't spread false information. John Henry has much more diverse portfolio that doesn't  involve FSG. A simple google search of the man would allow you to learn this, the man has amassed a lot of property and business's such as the Boston Globe just to name one

Have a check on The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, US version of company house. It might get you to revise your statement as you can see how many pies John's fingers are in.

Ah yes - he managed to get the Globe for £60mil was it and has some shared ownership in some nascar teams

His net worth is around £6bn

Liverpool have over 100m fans. If we set up a gofundme page and every fan donated £1.50 we could sign bellingham.

Oh yes great idea, we pay to watch, for merchandise, and now we payout again for players while FSG increase the value of their investment, like sh*te we further fund their all ready fully bloated pockets

Arrogant opinionated jerk

if he want to compare my financial position to his I am up for that seeing I retired at 50 and live in a very nice area on the Wirral whilst he is still going to the post office to draw money out every Thursday. He is an arrogant pr**k with nothing to back it up other than the need to feel important by taking an unpopular position and getting lots of attention sad little f**ker. He even has a pop at lads who cannot get to the games because they live thousands of miles away.

the fact remains they no longer see us as anything other than an asset which they will dispose of at a time of their choosing Shankly must be turning in his grave

if he want to compare my financial position to his I am up for that seeing I retired at 50 and live in a very nice area on the Wirral whilst he is still going to the post office to draw money out every Thursday. He is an arrogant pr**k with nothing to back it up other than the need to feel important by taking an unpopular position and getting lots of attention sad little f**ker. He even has a pop at lads who cannot get to the games because they live thousands of miles away.

😂😂😂

Who was comparing financial positions of posters 😂😂😂


Blimey - the other day I was called a failure in life based on apparently only owning a 3 bed semi in Liverpool and yet you have me going to a post office each week for some reason 🤷‍♂️ - since when was someone’s own personal finances relevant to the owners


Was it you who believed that the club has £3bn to spend because that’s what it’s worth , also didn’t you also confuse revenue with profit and let’s not forget that you have this belief that they should leave some of the sale money behind 😂😂😂

The Bellingham situation is far from over Imo and still has a long way to go yet

But it won’t mean the owners using their own personal money to buy players , they may use credit lines etc

I disagree. We all know that the likes of Joyce and Pearce don't have people leaking them the info, they pretty much get told what the club wants them to say and they say it. In that context, unless I am missing something, I dont see what is the point of leaking this piece of info other than to dampen down the expectation of people.

There's no mind games to be had with BVB. They will get their money regardless of any of that, so no its not some sort of game to drive down the price. BVB has 3 or 4 buyers with unlimited funds waiting to pay any price they ask for. Our only chance to get the player was a combination of being willing to pay a significant chunk of money that would still be less than what the other would pay combined with the player's rumoured desire to join us.

So this brings me to the following question: why spin the Bellingham crap for a year and a half then? Okay lets ignore all that happened before the season started. Why spin this crap well into the season after it had become very evident one midfielder was never going to do the job if the reason we supposedly backed down is ''we can't put our eggs all in the same basket''?.

The huge fee = a known constant since day one

The fact we will need more than one midfielder = another known constant for at least 4 or 5 months now and yet they still kept on pushing that PR regardless

I do not care about Bellingham or top stars transfers. I want the problems on the pitch fixed regardless of who is brought in. However, what gets me me is the underlying feelings of dishonesty and being taken for a fool and that's what they have done with this Bellingham bullshit. Spin stories in a way that would shut people up even if they knew from the get go that they were never going to pay and get him.


Edit: Btw, I don't mean anything about Pearce or Joyce. They are just doing their job. They simply report whatever the club is willing to give them (Just making that clear since there is some weirdos that like to attack them for doing their job as if they were the ones making the decisions or something).