Stoke 2-0 Liverpool: Match Thread & Post Match Discomfort.

I think by doing nothing Red it is doing more damage, the job should be offered to Kenny on an interim basis and if he doesn't want it which I would be shocked by I'd offer it to Sammy Lee on an interim bases(I know he was sh*t at Bolton).

And surely to god in say 6 weeks time come January they will be in a position to appoint a new manager.

Found this on Paul Tomkins site:
RH & Media just don't go


I haven’t included his more recent gaffes (the Rafa/Dalglish lie, slating players in public, etc) ; there appear to be enough here, in what was sent to me.

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/boss-we-ll-rise-to-challenge

29 July 2010 – “It’s a massive step up.”

(Describing the challenge facing the squad he took to Macedonia. A squad that included Cavalieri, Soto, Skrtel, Agger, Aquilani, Lucas, Jovanovic and N’Gog.)

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/we-don-t-need-overhaul

30 July 2010 – “I don’t think I’ve ever said the squad is in need of a major overhaul,” said the boss. “We need to add one or two players to the team.

“It is important we keep the nucleus from last season and a nucleus of players who are maybe just behind the first team.”

Contrast with:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-reflects-on-summer-deals

9 September 2010 – “We should be very happy [with summer dealings].” “We were unbelievably overstaffed when I came to the club and, if the truth be known, we still are overstaffed.” [Could mean fringe players here. But his own signings have only added to the deadwood.]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6473926,00.html

29 October 2010 – “There are a lot of things here that the club has got to get right. We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing.”

and

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8097807/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-insists-Pepe-Reina-and-Fernando-Torres-will-not-be-sold.html

29 October 2010 – “I do not want to be taking people’s leftovers. We have got those type of players ourselves. If we are going to improve, we need better.”

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-no-striker-regrets

10 September 2010 – “I preferred to put my weight behind David Ngog and Ryan Babel, who’s never really been given a proper chance at centre-forward at the club.” “We have Fernando Torres, we have good players who can play behind a lone striker.” “I will be using David Ngog and Ryan Babel in certain games to give Fernando Torres a rest and it’s up to them to prove to me that there’s no need to look further than them.” (Saying he didn’t regret not signing a striker in the summer.)

Contrast with:

http://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/10/31/2191550/roy-hodgson-stresses-need-to-bring-in-strikers-in-january-as

31 October 2010 – “A club like Liverpool shouldn’t have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel ‘doing a job’ up front when they are primarily wide players.”

“In training, I can’t have practice games where each team plays a 4-4-2 because I don’t have the front players to do that.”

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/forget-man-city-warns-hodgson

25 August 2010 – “I thought for long periods of the game it was fairly even and both teams passed the ball fairly well in the middle of the park. But the difference, as in all games, is goals.” (After Man City 3-0 loss. Simply not an accurate reflection of the game.)

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Describing the Trabzonspor win as “a famous victory”.

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2010/10/04/liverpool-boss-roy-hodgson-admits-current-relegation-battle/30690/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-01/liverpool-manager-roy-hodgson-hails-famous-win-to-end-barren-away-run.html

“Today was a famous victory because we hadn’t won more than once away in the whole of 2010,”

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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Liverpool-boss-Roy-Hodgson-claims-to-know-nothing-about-Loic-Remy-article528957.html

16 July 2010 – “He’s a player I know very little about.” (About French international striker, Loïc Rémy.)

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4 October 2010 – “There are 31 games left, but when you are in the relegation zone you are in a relegation battle.” (After Blackpool defeat.)

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/language_tips/bbc/offthepitch/2010-10/05/content_11378535.htm

“Unfortunately, when you give yourself an uphill task with a 0-2 you’ve got to expect it’s going to be very difficult in the second half against a team of Blackpool’s quality.”

Liverpool hadn’t lost a home game to a promoted side since 1999.

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-no-david-vs-goliath

16 September 2010 – “You don’t play in the Europa League to play against poor opponents.”

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-show-us-you-are-lfc-class

22 September 2010 – “They’ll be a formidable challenge – there’s no question about that.” (About Northampton Town. Who were at the time 17th in the 4th tier of English football.)

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-view-on-cup-defeat

23 September 2010 – “Northampton were clearly better than one would have expected from a team playing where they play.” And on 18-year-old Shelvey’s debut…. “He did well but the fact is he came on in extra-time and people were tiring.”

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-reaction-to-2-2-draw

26 September 2010 – “…in many ways it was the performance we wanted.”

“I think over the 90 minutes we were certainly more than worth the point we got.” (After dreadful Sunderland performance. A team we had dispatched 3-0 the previous year.)

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-reacts-to-utrecht-draw

1 October – “So it’s a good point to take back to Liverpool. Four points out of two games. It’s the first time we haven’t won one of these games but to be honest it would have been unfortunate for them if we’d won the game tonight. They would have felt hard done by. For me, a draw was a more than satisfactory result.” (After Utrecht 0-0. They’re not even in the top 100 European clubs by UEFA coefficient.)

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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-boss-Roy-Hodgson-left-raging-after-an-insulting-question-from-a-journalist-about-his-training-methods-article593189.html

2 October 2010 – “What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmsteds to Malmo to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax to the Swiss national team.”

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-everton-verdict-1

17 October 2010, after 2-0 defeat at Everton “This was always going to be a difficult game to win.” (It wasn’t for the previous two Reds’ managers.)

“To get a result here and win the game would have been utopia.”

“I hope that fair-minded people see the game the same way. I think it’s a bit unfortunate that after such a good game of football, everything revolves around the fact that Liverpool didn’t win it.”

“We didn’t score goals and Everton did but I refuse to accept that we were in any way outplayed or any way inferior. I watched the performance and the second half was as good as I saw a Liverpool team play under my management that is for sure.”

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/10/21/liverpool-fc-manager-roy-hodgson-fears-man-utd-move-for-fernando-torres-100252-27515832/

21 October 2010, responding to alleged interest from Manchester United in Torres – “With Torres, I think we will cross that bridge when we come to it,” said Hodgson. “There will always be speculation.

“When a great player like Wayne Rooney is looking to leave his club, Manchester United will be a position to target a lot of players around the world.

“I don’t think Fernando Torres will be the only striker they target and I don’t think that we will be the only club that will be worried their striker can be targeted.

“I am not naive to believe that there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres.”

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“I hope we don’t get beaten too heavily” … before the friendly with Al Hilal

“I hope we don’t get beaten 6-0” … before the Man City game.

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Do you think, Torres is more suiteable to playing alone, or with a striking partner?

RH: “I don’t know.”

Only read this last page of 29,because I knew what to expect!Nearly every post makes reference to R.H.
When in all honesty we should be looking for the reason our "players" cannot pass a football to each other.
Now whether R.H. is or is'nt the right man for our club,surely he,s not solely to blame for that shocking show,as it was'nt tactics to blame.
Can't wait to pop back later to read my castigation for speaking my mind.
We were crap yesterday end of. 

Just a question then, who's tells that pile of sh*t to continue bombarbing long balls into the stoke area, something they dealt with pretty effectively all day.

That'll be the daft, hasn't got a F***ing clue, wouldn't know football tactics if it bit him on the arse, owl-faced c**t we have for a manager then.

Some people genuinely think Rafa lost the plot towards the end, this c**t in charge now has never had a plot to start with.

From what I see there is no Plan A, never mind a plan B.

The man is not good enough and will never be good enough to manage Liverpool FC - get shut of him first then start on the team.

Just a question then, who's tells that pile of sh*t to continue bombarbing long balls into the stoke area, something they dealt with pretty effectively all day.

That'll be the daft, hasn't got a f**king clue, wouldn't know football tactics if it bit him on the arse, owl-faced c**t we have for a manager then.

Some people genuinely think Rafa lost the plot towards the end, this c**t in charge now has never had a plot to start with.

From what I see there is no Plan A, never mind a plan B.

The man is not good enough and will never be good enough to manage Liverpool FC - get shut of him first then start on the team.

That aside Huyton.Why can't they (our players) pass the ball say 10 or 15 yards?

What i saw yesterday i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Roy Hodgson looks like those pensioners you see in Tesco car parks, looking around all lost and bemused, wondering where they left their Nissan Micra. The man hasn't got a F***ing clue. What worries me is that Henry is either seeing this and doesn't know what to do or i hope that he has already started a plan to oust the retarded c**t.

We can't even string 2 passes together, the same players that beat Chelsea couldn't muster a decent chance between them. Skrtel was beasted by Jones, he couldn't handle him. Lucas, Maxi, Kuyt, Konchesky, Meireles and Skrtel were abysmal.

Take Torres and Gerrard out of this side and we are left with nothing in the outfield. Roy is like a chef that has all the ingredients but has lost the cookbook, if he ever had it that is.

I used to love constructing a post match report last season, the fact that that i couldn't muster one if i tried now tells its own story really. These are sad times, we've got rid of three cu*ts, now we're left with the biggest c**t of the lot.

Apologies for using expletives and profanities, Hodgson is taking me to places that i don't want to go to. Please F**k this tosser off before it is too late.

Words cannot describe how pissed off i am with the way Roy has deceived me.

He promised us of a return to 'The Liverpool Way', his respect for what he called the Liverpool 'mantra'. He bluffed his way in, there is now no hiding place Roy, your time is well and truly up, now F**k off before the gestures become reality.

That aside Huyton.Why can't they (our players) pass the ball say 10 or 15 yards?

Maybe they dont wont too. Getting rid of Roy might be their only intent in playing so poorly.

We do not know the ins and outs of that to be honest mate, Kenny said he would love to return Management at LFC but that was on a full time basis, would he be happy taking it on an interim basis just to hand over the job he would obviously like most when they appoint a new man ?

give him the chance to at least try.  Even until the end of the season which if you beleive som eof th eposts has been writtern off anyway.

give him the chance to at least try.  Even until the end of the season which if you beleive som eof th eposts has been writtern off anyway.

I wouldn't give him until tomorrow morning!

What's new for RH? I am sick of his "I am happy with a draw" mentality. He has brought his mid-table, relegation mentality to the club.

Only read this last page of 29,because I knew what to expect!Nearly every post makes reference to R.H.
When in all honesty we should be looking for the reason our "players" cannot pass a football to each other.
Now whether R.H. is or is'nt the right man for our club,surely he,s not solely to blame for that shocking show,as it was'nt tactics to blame.
Can't wait to pop back later to read my castigation for speaking my mind.

  

yeah your quite right joey I went to wigan and stoke game and they look tired and passing lazy, although I highly dislike the woy tactics get behind the ball and hoofing up to torres expecting miracles it don't work, so its an allround to blame but I still thinks its the maneger tactics as well as the incomplete passes and possesion loss.
We were crap yesterday end of.

give him the chance to at least try.  Even until the end of the season which if you beleive som eof th eposts has been writtern off anyway.

I'd give Kenny Job the tomorrow mate, what I'm saying though is this, This job on a full time basis is what Kenny wants the most, if NESV enquired with him about doing it as a Caretaker per say, Kenny himself maybe reluctant to do it, as the job means so much to him, he may feel it would be too hard to hand over to another manager.

It will be emotional for him considering he's already stated that he would lover another crack at the job full time.

Maybe they dont wont too. Getting rid of Roy might be their only intent in playing so poorly.

D'you know Walton (i was born in Walton)97% of all your post are depressingly negative.Please tell me your reply to me was a joke.

I wouldn't give him until tomorrow morning!

Dont misquote  me out of context i was referring to giving kenny the chance i tohught I had gone mad for a minute then.

Just seen the result, couldnt watch the game cause Im travelling... I cant even say thats a shocking result, thats how low our standards have gone

I can make the link between our players not completing a single pass and R.H

When you sit that deep and are under that much pressure for the whole game it is difficult to focus and your confidence take a battering. Does not matter if you are messi or gerrard, if you sit that deep, you'll get fu**ed in the brain.

This has to be a phase thing where we sit deep at one moment and then move forward for the next but seems we are a one phase team at the moment and R.H cannot get us out of phase 1.

But yet again this 2 phase play is for lesser team. At LFC we need to control the game and then score and he should have understood this even before starting his time with us.

Heres a statistic from the Daily Fail:

Of 105 away leagues games at Bristol, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool Hodgson has won 13 and Drawn 13, he also reportedly has said that we the fans have a right to complain and he thinks we might do some more over the season as he can not see us winning every game hey you might think it and it may be true but sh*t you don't say it

The pressure has obviously got to him --- Taxi for Roy

I was shocked at home bad our passing was, I know it is tough to pass when they are pressing you but we could not make 5 passes in a row without the ball going out of touch or giving it up to a Stoke player, we make it too easy for other teams to get the ball when he give it back to them through poor short passing or hoff ball which there was a lot of.

I guess it goes to show the Chelsea result was a one-off and this team still hasn't figure out how to win away from home.

I guess it goes to show the Chelsea result was a one-off and this team still hasn't figure out how to win away from home.

Or more to the point - Roy still hasn't figured out how to win away. Only 13 wins in 105 games away from home in the Premier League.

Shambolic that a man with those kind of stats was allowed the keys to our great club.

Or more to the point - Roy still hasn't figured out how to win away. Only 13 wins in 105 games away from home in the Premier League.

Shambolic that a man with those kind of stats was allowed the keys to our great club.

I wonder what the draw stats are!!

I wonder what the draw stats are!!

I'm glad you asked! 35 draws - which means out of 105 games, he has lost 57 of them, if my math is correct.

Good enough for us? Not a chance in hell.

F**k we get rid of H and G and we still left with there F***ing stinking legacy!!!!

Roy needs to go and quick so we can still salvage something out of this F***ing season!!!

my persective on roy is the players dont respect him any more. and judging by the way they played they are sending the owners a message fire him or yuo get more of the same. 

my persective on roy is the players dont respect him any more. and judging by the way they played they are sending the owners a message fire him or yuo get more of the same. 

Hope you're right there, mate.