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      Adam Johnson (Manchester City)

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      bigears
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      Reply #713: Aug 21, 2012 10:26:35 pm
      No it's going by the facts of the previous decade bar 2 seasons.

      Every year people right off Arsenal after they sell a player and every year Wenger gets them into CL - we are miles away from them.
      They've just sold the player that saved their bacon last season , i think that they'll struggle.
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      Reply #714: Aug 21, 2012 10:28:49 pm
      They've just sold the player that saved their bacon last season , i think that they'll struggle.

      Just like when they sold Henry and then Fabregas then Nasri ?!

      Wenger has just spent millions replacing him already plus about to get Sahin

      They will be in the top 4 again this season

      They are better than Spurs,Newcastle and Ourselves
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      Reply #715: Aug 21, 2012 10:32:38 pm
      Diego is right. We've bought terribly in recent years, I was moaning for us to buy smart tail end of last year. I'd be a hypocrite to disagree with his analysis of Arsenal.

      The fact is we've bought terribly and for all Arsenals perceived failings on Wenger still is outperforming us consistently despite spending nowhere near as much. I mean in terms of league finishes, which is what FSG want most
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      Re: Adam Johnson (Manchester City)
      Reply #716: Aug 21, 2012 10:33:04 pm
      So Adam Johnson eh? :roll:
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      Reply #717: Aug 21, 2012 10:33:12 pm
      Exactly, people love being extreme about everything - "Arsenal haven't won anything, so they're rubbish" - instead of taking the positives from other clubs' experiences and applying them to our own. Just because Arsenal are not willing to spend the extra cash that would take them to the very top it doesn't mean they can't teach everyone else a lesson. They've sold their key players time and time again yet they always manage to replace them and keep the level of performance extremely high. Great scouting, a lot of bargains, great coaching and great style of play. It is just an apparent lack of ambition that keeps them from challenging for the title; but they also have lessons for a lot of clubs to learn from.
      Who said they're rubbish , i said they've won nothing and it's a fact , RVP won 1 FA cup with them .
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      Reply #718: Aug 21, 2012 10:39:10 pm
      Who said they're rubbish , i said they've won nothing and it's a fact , RVP won 1 FA cup with them .

      Do you think we will finish above them this season ?
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      Reply #719: Aug 21, 2012 10:41:25 pm
      Who said they're rubbish , i said they've won nothing and it's a fact , RVP won 1 FA cup with them .


      What they are trying to say is we can emulate Arsenal up to a point but that does not mean we need to be clones of them. Whereas Arsenal take CL money every year and keep the change we could spend it to improve the squad. Just because Arsenal sell RVP does not mean we need to sell Suarez, the Arsenal way is correct up to a point but although they could their owners have decided not to take it to the next level, that does not mean we couldn't.
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      Reply #720: Aug 21, 2012 10:46:52 pm
      Do you think we will finish above them this season ?
      Of course we could , why not? Why are you so pessimistic ?
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      Reply #721: Aug 21, 2012 10:49:01 pm
      ESPN FC ‏@ESPNFC
      We understand Spurs & Liverpool have both made official approaches to Manchester City about signing winger Adam Johnson. #mcfc #thfc #lfc
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      Reply #722: Aug 21, 2012 10:52:01 pm
      Of course we could , why not? Why are you so pessimistic ?

      I'm realistic - I understand the current situation within our club and how far behind we are - 17 points it was last season

      Arsenal will finish above us this season - if they don't I will put a tenner into a charity of your choice.
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      Reply #723: Aug 21, 2012 10:56:51 pm
      Funny, I thought this was the Adam Johnson thread, not how much better f**king Arsenal are than us  :roll:
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      Reply #724: Aug 21, 2012 11:02:53 pm
      Put a tender in anyway ya tight tw*t, you made loads from those films. ;)
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      Reply #725: Aug 21, 2012 11:05:02 pm
      ESPN FC ‏@ESPNFC
      We understand Spurs & Liverpool have both made official approaches to Manchester City about signing winger Adam Johnson. #mcfc #thfc #lfc

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      Reply #726: Aug 21, 2012 11:05:53 pm
      I'm realistic - I understand the current situation within our club and how far behind we are - 17 points it was last season

      Arsenal will finish above us this season - if they don't I will put a tenner into a charity of your choice.
      So pessimism is reality now.
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      Reply #727: Aug 21, 2012 11:16:43 pm
      We have done well holding onto our best players as well - we just don't compete in the CL and again this season they will finish above us.



      I'll have a twenty pound bet with you George. The loser donates £20 to Zoe's Place.
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      Reply #728: Aug 21, 2012 11:18:21 pm
      I don't think we'd base ourselves on Arsenal at all.

      I was looking for the latest on Adam Johnson. Wonder how that bid has gone down?
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      Reply #729: Aug 21, 2012 11:52:01 pm
      Who said they're rubbish , i said they've won nothing and it's a fact , RVP won 1 FA cup with them .

      I know mate, but my point is it's not because they haven't won anything that we can't learn from them. I don't want us to be Arsenal, but we can learn a lot from them anyway.
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      Reply #730: Aug 22, 2012 08:31:14 am
      I read that Sunderland would not be beaten on price or wages thats how much they want Johnson.

      I expect our owners to have the same attitude if BR wants him.

      Do not F**k about and see another target snatched away.
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      Reply #731: Aug 22, 2012 08:36:27 am
      I'll have a twenty pound bet with you George. The loser donates £20 to Zoe's Place.

      Ill take that bet
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      Re: Adam Johnson (Manchester City)
      Reply #732: Aug 22, 2012 09:02:45 am
      Liverpool Echo reporting we are not interested in him. As much as I like Johnson and would like him here it would be strange to go for him when we have just signed Assaidi and also when we are desperate for a quality striker who we can rely on week in week out for goals.

      A striker is a must for me. Hope big Andy does well tomorrow. That lad deserves a chance in the team!
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      Reply #733: Aug 22, 2012 09:30:25 am

      Well at least you tried.
      Some won't let the topic subject get in the way of a good argument.

      I think prior to Johnson going to Citeh, a LOT of people on here were saying that we should be signing him and were pissed off that he was heading elsewhere. Now that he's been almost frozen out at Citeh, opinions have changed to, "He's inconsistent... he can't get a game... he's no better than Downing... we don't need him.. etc etc".
      Well as others have said in the Sahin and Kaka threads, class is permanent. I would have been delighted if we'd signed Johnson before he went to them so I'm of the same opinion now. Of course, it can be argued that we have more pressing needs (striker) but when a player of his quality becomes available, we shouldn't stand by and let another club snap him up just because we're not desparate for him in this window.
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      Reply #734: Aug 22, 2012 09:40:48 am
      I read that Sunderland would not be beaten on price or wages thats how much they want Johnson.

      I expect our owners to have the same attitude if BR wants him.

      Do not F**k about and see another target snatched away.

      What if he isn't a target ?

      We have just bought a new winger , we already have both Downing and Sterling at the club plus Borini who is playing the wider role plus Joe Cole hanging around. Can't see us being interested in him when we have far more pressing need elsewhere.
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      Reply #735: Aug 22, 2012 10:09:53 am
      Can't see us being interested in him when we have far more pressing need elsewhere.

      I think you give Liverpool too much credit.

      You know how they love buying midfielders.

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