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      Eem
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #23: Aug 24, 2011 10:26:16 am
      Says something about humanity when people like Mengele don't make the top 10.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #24: Aug 24, 2011 03:14:45 pm
      Says something about humanity when people like Mengele don't make the top 10.
      Agreed he was sick, suprised Genghis khan didn't make thre list too.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #25: Aug 25, 2011 12:37:44 pm
      I personally don't believe that 6 million jews were systematically murdered, it's been proved time an time again that this is just not true. This is the official death total report from the international red cross...

      I don't even know where to start with this sh*t. 

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      I'm no anti-semitic, I just know history is written by the victors.

      Yeah, the Jews won WWII...
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #26: Aug 25, 2011 12:43:55 pm
      Oliver Cromwell wasn't evil he helped England to have a goverment rather then a monacary
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #27: Aug 25, 2011 01:35:30 pm
      I don't even know where to start with this sh*t. 
      I'm not defending craglad's stance here but this sort of post is utterly pointless. If it's sh*t tell us why. I wish I had the knowledge to debunk what craglad said and I was interested to see how his evidence would be countered by our historians.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #28: Aug 25, 2011 01:46:28 pm
      I personally don't believe that 6 million jews were systematically murdered, it's been proved time an time again that this is just not true. This is the official death total report from the international red cross...



      The majority of the deaths were also typhus related or from starvation.  Hitler never in his writings (including the 800+ pages of Mein Kampf) mentions a "final solution" of the Jews that consists of extermination. He believed the Jews should be used as slave labour during war time efforts.

      Considerations about the holocaust numbers...

      The population of Jews?  Per World Almanac figures, it INCREASED by 584,549 between 1941 and 1948. So, this being the case, where did the 6,000,000 dead go?

      Article on gas chaimbers. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p319_Faurisson.html

      I'm no anti-semitic, I just know history is written by the victors.






      Some valid points there craglad.

      I don't even know where to start with this sh*t. 

      Yeah, the Jews won WWII...

      Start from the begining and give us all a good history lesson.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #29: Aug 25, 2011 01:57:23 pm
      I'm not defending craglad's stance here but this sort of post is utterly pointless. If it's sh*t tell us why. I wish I had the knowledge to debunk what craglad said and I was interested to see how his evidence would be countered by our historians.

      Let's start with the myth that the Jewish population remained stable.  This is just not true at all. Eastern European Hasidic Jewry was almost wiped out, the Jewish population of Europe.  90% of Polish Jews were killed. All academic, peer-reviewed studies indicate that around 6m Jews were killed.  It is like arguing with someone who believes the earth to be flat, there is no reasoning with them.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #30: Aug 25, 2011 02:14:26 pm
      Do you have any links to the peer-reviewed papers you mentioned? I'm a scientist rather than a historian so don't know the estabilshed History journals. This is a topic I would like to know more about as occasionally I've been asked if I deny the holocaust (and not just on here):
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #31: Aug 25, 2011 02:21:19 pm
      Finchie have a read of this link,it may shed some light on the subject.

      The holocaust, Israel’s most powerful PsyOps weapon

      http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/08/24/the-holocaust-israel%E2%80%99s-most-powerful-psyops-weapon/
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #32: Aug 25, 2011 02:24:53 pm
      Thanks, Shabs. I'll have a read.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #33: Aug 25, 2011 02:35:18 pm
      http://www.hedp.org.uk/page_viewer.asp?page=Transforming%20Holocaust%20education%20in%20our%20schools&pid=1

      Probably the best place to start, a Holocaust education site, that is affiliated with UofL, not some Jew-hating nutjob's blog.

      Also this:
      http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=10003&gclid=COatvbrH6qoCFcFP4QodUGbYOg
      http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/
      http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holo.html

      Will try to find some other good sites when I have the time.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #34: Aug 25, 2011 02:36:45 pm
      Thanks TKIDLLTK
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #35: Aug 25, 2011 02:43:36 pm
      Concentration camps.

      Invented by the British during the Boer War, with thousands dying of neglect, typhus and dysentary.

      Fact.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #36: Aug 25, 2011 03:16:58 pm
      Holocaust deniers have been universally condemned as out of touch with reallity at best and extreme agitators at worst some individuals on this thread dovetail the description.
       On topic Hitler must head any monster list.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #37: Aug 25, 2011 03:33:00 pm
      On topic Hitler must head any monster list.

      Not as much as those who promoted slavery and this act alone cost more lives than the holocaust.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #38: Aug 25, 2011 03:36:41 pm
           ^    ^    ^
      Well if you know of any put them on the list.
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      Reply #39: Aug 25, 2011 03:48:01 pm
          ^    ^    ^
      Well if you know of any put them on the list.

      1752...A list of slave traders and their ships


      A List of Vessels trading from Liverpool to the Coast of Africa, with
      their Commanders and Owners Names , what Part of the Coast each
      Ship goes to, and for what number of Slaves. December, 1752.

      Africa, -- Hallison, Benin, John Welsh and Company,.....250
      Antigua Merchant, Robert Thomas , Angola, James Gildart and Co,.....206
      Annabella, Wm Harrison, Wind. and Gold Coast, W. Dobb & Co,.....260
      Anglesea, J Caruthers, Wind. and Gold Coast, T Farrer and Co,....180
      Alice Galley, R. Jackson, Wind. and Gold Coast, Robert Cheshyre and Co,.....350
      Ann Galley, Neh Holland, Callabar, William Whalley and Co,.....340
      Adlington, T. Perkin, Windward and Gold Coast, J. Manesty & Co,.....320
      African, John Newton, Windward and Gold Coast, J. Manesty and Co,.....250
      Allen, James Strangeways, Windward and Gold Coast, John Brooks and Co,.....250
      Achilles, Thomas Patrick, --, Henry Hardwar and Co,.....450
      Barbadoes Merchant, John Wilson, Angola, G. Campbell and Co,.....500
      Betty, Samuel Sacheveril, John Robinson,.....200
      Blake, Alexander Torbett, Callabar, John Bird and Co,.....460
      Boyne, William Wilkinson, Bonny, Edward Forbes and Co,.....400
      Beverley, William Lowe, Angola, Edward Lowndes and Co,.....200
      Brooke, Thomas Kewley, Old Callabar, Roger Brooks and Co,.....400
      Barclay, John Gadson, Old Callabar, John Welsh and Co,.....450
      Bulkeley, C. Baitson, Wind. and Gold Coast, F Cunliffe Sons & Co,.....350
      Britannia, James Pemberton, Wind. and Gold Coast, Leatherbarrow and Co,.....300
      Bridget, --- Hayston, Wind. and Gold Coast, F Cunliffe Sons and Co,.....250
      Chesterfield, Patrick Black, Old Calabar, William Whalley and Co,.....440
      Clayton, (taken by Pirates & retaken by a Por. M.W.),--, J. Clayton & Co,.....440
      Cumberland, John Griffin, Gambia, Ed. Deane and Co,.....260
      Charming Nancy, T Roberts, W and Gold Coast, W Davenport and Co,.....170
      Cavendish, R Jennings, W and Gold Coast, Rd Nicholas and Co,.....170
      Cecilia, Rd. Younge, Gambia, Fr. Green and Co,.....120
      Duke of Cumberland, John Crosbie , Bonny, James Crosbie and Co,.....450
      Dolphin, Joseph Pederick, Wind. and Gold Coast, Ed. Forbes and Co,.....200
      Enterprize, Samuel Greenhow, Gambia, (missing) John Yates and Co,.....130
      Elijah, ---, Windward and Gold Coast, Edward Lowndes and Co,.....200
      Elizabeth, William Heys, Gambia, Samuel Shaw and Co,.....200
      Ellis & Robert, R Jackson, W and G. Coast, F. Cunliffe Sons & Co,.....320
      Eaton, John Hughes, Angola, J. Okill and Co. (wood and teeth),.....550
      Fanny, Wm Jenkinson, Wind. and Gold Coast, J. Knight and Co,.....120
      Florimell, Samuel Linecar, Callabar, Richard Townsend and Co,.....320
      Frodsham, James Powell, Angola, Nish. Torr and Co,.....450
      Fortune, Hugh Williams, Bonny, Henry Townsend and Co,.....450
      Foster, Edward Cropper, Benin, Foster Cunliffe Sons and Co,.....200
      Ferret, Joseph Welch, Windward Coast &c., John Welch and Co,.....50
      George, Charles Cooke, Angola, G. Campbell and Co,.....250
      Grace,--, Old Callabar, Edward Forbes and Co,.....400
      Greyhound,--, Windward and Gold Coast, R. Savage and Co,.....120
      Hesketh, James Thompson, New Callabar, R. Nicholas and Co,.....260
      Hector, Brook Keelsall, New Callabar, William Gregson and Co,.....480
      Hardman, Joseph Yoward, W. and G. Coast, John Hardman and Co,.....300
      Jenny, Thomas Derbyshire, W. & G. Coast, J. Knight and Co,.....450
      Judith, N. Southworth, Bonny, John Welch and Co,.....350
      James, John Sacheverill, Wind. and Gold Coast, James Gildart,.....120
      Knight, Wm. Boates, Wind. and Gold Coast, John Knight and Co,.....400
      Lintott, Ralph Lowe, New Callabar, Richard Nicholas and Co,.....400
      Lord Strange, Edward Smith, Benin, Wm. Halliday and Co, .....230
      Lovely Betty, G. Jackson, W. and G. Coast, G. Campbell and Co,.....140
      Little Billy, T. Dickinson, W. and G. Coast, John Knight and Co,.....60
      Mersey, John Gee, Benin, John Kennion and Co,.....300
      Middleham, John Welch, Old Callabar, Richard Gildart and Sons,.....320
      Methwen, John Coppell, Wind. and G. Coast, James Crosbie and Co,.....280
      Minerva, Thomas Jordan, Gambia, James Pardoe and Co,.....400
      Mercury, John Walker, W. and G. Coast, Konnien and Holme,.....100
      Molly, Richard Rigby, W. and G. Coast, Richard Golding and Co,.....320
      Neptune, T. Thompson, Old Calibar, Joseph and Jona. Brooks & Co,.....450
      Nelly, John Simmons, Old Calibar, William Williamson and Co,.....340
      Nancy , John Honeyford, Bonny, Thomas Kendal and Co,.....400
      Nancy, Robert Hewitt, Bonny, Peter Holme and Co,.....400
      Nancy, Thomas Midglev, Gambia, Knight Mairs and Co,.....300
      Orrell, James Griffin, Gambia, William Whaley and Co,.....120
      Ormond Success,--, Angola, William Williamson and Co,.....300
      Pardoe,--,Windward and Gold Coast, James Pardoe and Co,.....240
      Priscilla, William Parkinson, Angola, John Welch and Co,.....350
      Phoebe, W. Lawson, W. and G. Coast, A. and B. Heywood and Co,.....280
      Prince William, John Valentine, Angola, P. Gildart aad Sons,.....200
      Rider, Michael Ruth, Angola, Richard Gildart and Sons,.....300
      Ranger, J. Sander's, Wind. and Gold Coast, W. Farrington and Co,.....300
      Sterling Castle, Charles Gardner, Bonny, John Backhouse and Co,.....300
      Sarah, A. Lawson, Bonny, Thomas Crowder and Co,.....550
      Salisbury, T. Marsden, Old Callabar, Robert Armitage and Co,.....350
      Samuel and Nancy, J. Lowe, W. and Gold Coast, R. Savage and Co,.....220
      Swan, Peter Leay, Bonny, John Tarleton and Co,.....400
      Sammy and Biddy, R. Grayson, Wind Coast &c., J. Blundell & Co,.....150
      Schemer, Robert Grimshaw, Wind Coast &c., T. Chalmers and Co,.....120
      Stronge, T Cubbin, Bonny, M. and J Stronge and Co,.....300
      Tarlton, J. Thompson, Bonny, John Tarlton and Co,.....340
      Triton, Charles Jenkinson, Bonny, Levinus Unsworth and Co,.....240
      Thomas, J. Hutchinson, Gambia, George Campbell and Co,.....200
      True Blue, Ben Wade, Benin, John Cheshyre and Co,.....300
      Thomas and Martha, J. Gillman, W. & G Coast, G Campbell & Co,.....200
      Vigilant, W. Freeman, W. & G Coast, (missing) J. Bridge and Co,.....160
      Union, T. Anyon, W. & G Coast, James Pardoe and Co,.....350
      William and Betty, Thomas Barclay, Angola, Samuel Shawe and Co,.....400

      http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.afam.slaveinfo/465/mb.ashx

      EDIT;

      http://www.nas.gov.uk/guides/slaveTrade.asp
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #40: Aug 25, 2011 04:47:13 pm
      Sorted.
      But who would be the worst offenders?
      « Last Edit: Aug 25, 2011 05:08:15 pm by stuey »
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #41: Aug 25, 2011 05:28:26 pm
      Shabs, don't forget Cromwell who killed hundreds of thousands of Irish people and who sold tens of thousands more into slavery, mostly in the west indies.
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      Re: 10 Most Evil Humans
      Reply #42: Aug 25, 2011 06:09:18 pm
      I can not believe some of the spurious crass comments made above.

      craglad, you don't believe that 6 million Jews were systematically murdered, OK, how many do you believe WERE systematically murdered then, Don't answer as it's 6,000,000.

      Proven again and again and again. Or did we make it up?

      The official death total report you kindly post comes from a Russian Web site: http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/ and as we know the Russian are well know for telling the truth and upholding the rights of all beliefs. Oh hang on, there not.

      Why is this official report dated 1979? Now I do not read German, and I am not going to translate this. I could quite easily produce a report that said the same, all I would need is a type writer, a screwed up piece of paper and a photocopier.

      Death by Gas, bullets, typhus related or from starvation by the hands of another is? MURDER! And this is a FACT.

      The Article you quote is from the "Journal of Historical Review" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Historical_Review Guess What? Its subject is primarily Holocaust denial.
      History Teacher wrote that the "[journal] is shockingly racist and anti-Semitic.

      The author of the "article" is Robert Faurisson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Faurisson
      He was find €7,500, and had  3 months probation in Oct. 3, 2006 by France for Holocaust denial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

      For some reason Holocaust denial is not against the law here, but it is in many countries. Why make a law denying something that did not happen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

      Sorry if this Picture upsets some of you, but guess what? This was not Voluntary.


      You say you are not anti-Semitic, but you seen to believe their views.

      Some valid points there craglad.

      Start from the beginning and give us all a good history lesson.

      Shabs, are my points valid?

      And here is your History.
      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/history.html
      http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/timeline.html
      http://www.holocausthistory.net/
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/
      Locking this now, so it does not become another Religious thread. If you disagree then I will deny it happened.

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