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      Reply #2500: Jun 26, 2021 02:03:10 pm
      I think most of the top ex pros are a bit dense to be honest.
      It seems the more intelligent intellectual ex players have other fish to fry .

      On the continent I feel they employ people who really take it seriously. Jürgen did punditry work during World Cup 2006 and Euro 2008 for German TV. He was a revelation and he took it really seriously, prepping and watching vids for interactive 'smart screen' analysis. We don't have anyone like that to fall back on.

      The worse thing is, as license fee players we're paying the likes of Jenas, Savage and co to spew out these abject clichés and banal insights on the BBC. They clearly don't do prwpr work. We expect them to tell us something we don't know. But they don't. They're earning money for next to none prep work.
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      Reply #2501: Jul 03, 2021 09:08:44 pm
      Jenas and Mowbray is possibly my most hated commentary duo.

      Painful.
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      Reply #2502: Jul 07, 2021 10:19:26 pm
      The late great Richie benaud said that two words you never use in commentary are us and we. F**k me, the standard of commentary  apart from Clive, ally and probably Steve Wilson has been abject.
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      Reply #2503: Jul 08, 2021 11:17:42 am
      The late great Richie benaud said that two words you never use in commentary are us and we. F**k me, the standard of commentary  apart from Clive, ally and probably Steve Wilson has been abject.

      Fantastic comentator was Richie
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      Reply #2504: Jul 09, 2021 05:10:07 am
      Fantastic comentator was Richie



      Yep, he was probably the best of all the cricket comms, as was good old Bill McClaren of Rugby Union, Alan Green was pretty good too but not on the same level as Richie or Bill.
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      Reply #2505: Jul 09, 2021 04:02:44 pm
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      Reply #2506: Jul 09, 2021 04:57:35 pm
      Can't be doing with the dour, cynicism of Dixon so it'll have to be the BBC.

      It really should've been Ali McCoist but imagine the uproar if they dared to put a Scotsman in, even though he's undoubtedly been the best throughout the tournament.

      If there's any English person out there who would prefer Dixon or Jenas over McCoist on account the latter is Scottish then they should be shot.

      But for England's biggest match in over 50 years, that's a putrid commentary lineup.

      Sad thing is, I quite liked Lee Dixon when he's in the studio. But in the commentary box he's doing a Lawro impression with all that dourness and cynicism. As for Jenas...the less said about him the better.

      Mowbray - when he's commentating on a goal it sounds like he's trying to be heard over a force 9 gale at sea. Matterface - just a Patridgean fool really.
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      Reply #2507: Jul 10, 2021 01:41:17 pm
      I suppose that's why they end up as pundits.

      If they’re that good, they’d end up as managers themselves. And remain there. It’s easy to name a few pundits who were previously sacked as managers.
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      Reply #2508: Jul 10, 2021 08:00:45 pm
      Being a Scot I will watch the game in mute, there is no doubt in my mind that any comments will undoubtedly be biased and that can't be helped for obvious reasons, 

      Its just how it is, I wish England well, and  hope it's a very good game, however, I do favour the Italians because if it's victory for England just like in '66' we'll never hear the end of it.

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      Reply #2509: Jul 10, 2021 08:28:46 pm
      Being a Scot I will watch the game in mute, there is no doubt in my mind that any comments will undoubtedly be biased and that can't be helped for obvious reasons, 

      Its just how it is, I wish England well, and  hope it's a very good game, however, I do favour the Italians because if it's victory for England just like in '66' we'll never hear the end of it.

      Arrividerci!

      ... It's one on one!

      No but seriously I echo your sentiments Billy. Would love to see Italy claim another major and this side has entertained us so much. Its been a real pleasure watching them and they start as solid favourites for me.

      However I wouldn't begrudge England a victory in front of their fans on home turf. I suppose from a socio-political context the team and Southgate stand apart from the political nature of England and dare I say it represent an England that is the sort of progressive and modern society that it really is. It's lovely when sport and culture, like the London Olympics did in 2012 (with some extra help from Danny Boyle) can hold up a mirror to the better side of the country. It's amazing because they stand contrary to a large core of the England support who represent backwardness of some with their attitudes. I can sense a France 98 moment for them.

      It should be a great final.
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      Reply #2510: Jul 12, 2021 10:20:20 pm
      Keane was sucking Lemons after the game
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      Reply #2511: Aug 16, 2021 11:14:51 am
      https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1426972911794114560?s=19

      Don't follow this account but popped up on my timeline.

      Micah Richards isn't everyone's cup of tea, he's irritated me plenty in the past, but he's bang on here.

      Pogba gets slated yet Kane gets a pass for more or the doing the same thing. Souness apparently has 'sources' close to Kane as to why he dodged training and the way they try and shut Richards down is terrible.

      Far too much positive bias given to English players in the media and also whole I'm at it Gary Neville is possibly the biggest hypocrite working in the media.
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      Reply #2512: Aug 16, 2021 11:21:26 am


      Micah Richards isn't everyone's cup of tea, he's irritated me plenty in the past, but he's bang on here.



      He's obviously biased when talking about City but on the whole I do enjoy watching him.
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      Reply #2513: Aug 22, 2021 03:50:54 pm
      Just catching up on the other games on MOTD now and to see Murphy and Jenas again is almost soul destroying.

      Clueless, arrogant, joyless and I could go on and on
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      Reply #2514: Aug 22, 2021 03:52:44 pm
      Just catching up on the other games on MOTD now and to see Murphy and Jenas again is almost soul destroying.

      Clueless, arrogant, joyless and I could go on and on
      I'd rather let Stevie Wonder shave my balls with a razorblade than watch those two.
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      Reply #2515: Aug 22, 2021 03:55:22 pm
      I'd rather let Stevie Wonder shave my balls with a razorblade than watch those two.

      First bit of analysis was enough mate. I cannot bear to listen to either of them do have been only half paying attention in between games.
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      Reply #2516: Aug 22, 2021 04:00:50 pm
      Just catching up on the other games on MOTD now and to see Murphy and Jenas again is almost soul destroying.

      Clueless, arrogant, joyless and I could go on and on

      I've given up on MOTD and just watch the 3 minute YouTube highlights of the games now.

      The pundits are just awful and gone off Lineker too.
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      Reply #2517: Aug 22, 2021 04:03:23 pm
      I've given up on MOTD and just watch the 3 minute YouTube highlights of the games now.

      The pundits are just awful and gone off Lineker too.

      Was just about to post about Lineker as well.

      His corny jokes and snidey remarks piss me off as well
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      Reply #2518: Aug 29, 2021 10:50:44 pm
      Dublin and Jenas creaming themselves over Wan Biassaka clearance.

      Am I missing something but they're getting on as this is one of the greatest things they've ever seen.
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      Reply #2519: Aug 30, 2021 12:29:59 am
      Has anyone else ever noticed Jim Begin's anti-Liverpool commentary? Picked it up a few times over the seasons. I've often wondered if he thought the club didn't do enough after the broken leg injury v Everton. As Alan Hansen has said, "that tackle was a mile high and a day late"

      Seems to be fairly evident this season in the first few games, against Burnley last week he was "well Burnley did them last season here, they can't do it again, can they?" just a hint of hopefulness in the tone.

      And he was a shocker for the Chelsea match, All over Teuchel, Mendy,  could hardly contain himself. Oh for the days when the commentary was impartial and finely balanced.

      But as others have said, playing the game doesn't make you proficient in commentating about it.
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      Reply #2520: Aug 30, 2021 12:34:07 am
      Roy Kent the best pundit in recent history, too bad he’s quit and gone back to coach at AFC Richmond.
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      Reply #2521: Aug 30, 2021 12:44:38 am
      I think we're all prone to a bit of hyperbole me especially but I'm confident that this is not hyperbole.

      Jermaine Jenas is the worst pundit in the history of broadcasting and the worst that there will ever be in my lifetime.
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      Reply #2522: Aug 30, 2021 02:06:34 pm
      Has anyone else ever noticed Jim Begin's anti-Liverpool commentary? Picked it up a few times over the seasons. I've often wondered if he thought the club didn't do enough after the broken leg injury v Everton. As Alan Hansen has said, "that tackle was a mile high and a day late"

      Seems to be fairly evident this season in the first few games, against Burnley last week he was "well Burnley did them last season here, they can't do it again, can they?" just a hint of hopefulness in the tone.

      And he was a shocker for the Chelsea match, All over Teuchel, Mendy,  could hardly contain himself. Oh for the days when the commentary was impartial and finely balanced.

      But as others have said, playing the game doesn't make you proficient in commentating about it.

      Yep been said on here before he’s a bell end.
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      Reply #2523: Sep 01, 2021 12:20:59 pm
      I think we're all prone to a bit of hyperbole me especially but I'm confident that this is not hyperbole.

      Jermaine Jenas is the worst pundit in the history of broadcasting and the worst that there will ever be in my lifetime.

      He's by far the worst. I think he's the only one who's name I really dread to see.

      Pundits / commentators on the whole don't bother me. Even when some of them make digs at Liverpool from time to time. They're paid to give their opinion at the end of the day so I've got no problem with them doing so, even if I may not agree with what they're saying.

      The thing about Jenas is he never seems to have an opinion on anything. He's got to be one of the most boring men on the planet. Still can't believe BBC gave him the gig to commentate on the Euros final.

      Well... actually, it's the BBC. So I can ;D
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      Reply #2524: Sep 13, 2021 01:20:53 pm
      Jamie Redknapp wittering on about whether Thiago could handle the atmosphere, tempo and Leeds midfield before the game.

      Afterwards decided to educate us on how he's one of the best technicians around.

      Absolute clown.

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