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      Ryan Babel (LFC -> Hoffenheim. Now Fulham)

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      Rafa La Bamba
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #30: Aug 26, 2007 11:03:06 am
      He looked fab in the first half, showed some skills but in the 2nd half he was anonymous apart from that link up play with Pennant when Voronin scored the 2nd goal. He looks like a great counter attacking type player, give him time!
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #31: Aug 26, 2007 10:01:56 pm
      I still beleive he's the one to watch this season he shows great pace and determination in the game something that we have not really had for a few seasons, he has a mean strike too which lets us have more support for the strikers.
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      Reply #32: Aug 26, 2007 10:06:10 pm
      I didn't think he had a great game.  But for your first taste of the Premiership, playing against a new promoted side is tough.  They didn't give him a second on the ball.

      I believe he will be a great player in the future, just needs to adapt to the premiership.

      give him time
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      Reply #33: Aug 26, 2007 10:16:05 pm
      I agree, he looks sharp. It'll just take him that first goal to settle and time to adapt to the league and then i reckon he'll be class.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #34: Aug 27, 2007 01:35:40 am
      We got our hands on our new version of Digger....direct, strong, efficient, aware and a huge amount of potential. saying all that I can see why Ra Ra rafa said that he looked a little disinterested.....think that is just the way he carries himself, his demeanor.

      Thought he looked ok today. Nothing too impressive but thats a good start rather than a stinker or a stonking performance that will add too much pressure.....now if we can get him to wear some stupidly tight shorts like the genius himself wore he'll be bound to suceed sooner
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #35: Nov 07, 2007 12:01:25 am
      Looking more at home as a striker than on the wing? Do we have five proper strikers?

      I really like the way he runs across the face of the box, you don't know if he's going to shoot or lay it out wide. But when he shoots, it's usually with venom. He knows where to position himself as well.....

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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #36: Nov 07, 2007 12:39:53 am
      That was his position.  He would much prefer to play there but he accepted when he signed that Rafa may use him on the right wing.

      It's a bit like Thierry Henry but in reverse.

      I think he is best up front, for now.  Maybe as he gets used to the English game he may develop the confidence to play as a winger?
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      Reply #37: Nov 07, 2007 12:57:31 am
      Exactly. That was his position. Just wondering if 'was' should be turned back to 'is' for the time being. Reckon he'd be more dangerous.

      You're right saying it's a bit like Thierry Henry but in reverse though. If he could end up as good on the wing as Henry was up front, I'd be chuffed!
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      Reply #38: Nov 07, 2007 01:25:35 am
      Yeah... finally he scored as a striker!!! Rafael, do u believe ur eye? he is a sharp and powerful striker!! please put him in front! not winger!
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      Reply #39: Nov 07, 2007 07:39:56 am
      I'm extremely happy about the way he played and glad hes got on the scoresheet once more, hes obviously getting more confidence. good for you lad. but id like to see him in the striker role more often than a winger as i don't think thats what his best position is. voronin played better assisting, maybe Rafa will start and look at how good this combonation of players did and we can keep this form flowing.
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      Reply #40: Nov 07, 2007 07:54:45 am
      Wow he show some real pace when he was playing upfront when Crouch played that through ball to him and he was running backwards and still had time to turn around and make a challenge for the ball (he was still offside anyway).

      He's got a great first touch and a great shot on him......I can see why Van Basten calls him the next Henry

      And also.....I think I might of seen him smile when he scored that goals, even if it was only for about a second.................. he never smiles.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #41: Nov 07, 2007 06:02:11 pm
      Babel looked quality, he is NOT a waste of money like ManUre fans might say. He looks like a waste when playing on the wings but Babel is not a winger. He is quick and powerful which wingers are not.. they are quick but not powerful.

      Babel is a striker, I've never seen him play that well until he was given that role and service!
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #42: Nov 07, 2007 06:07:36 pm
      Nice to see you here Rarafa as the rest of the negative gang haven't yet turned up!

      I do feel that we need to give him much more opportunities as a striker before the January window!
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #43: Nov 08, 2007 08:11:35 am
      Babel looked quality, he is NOT a waste of money like ManUre fans might say.

      G'day Ra Ra, what do those gloryhunting Manure pricks say about him? We don't get to hear the banter down here.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #44: Nov 08, 2007 08:33:44 am
      Im confused, i dont like being confused. Why did Rafa bring in Babel as a winger when hes obviously better at being a striker? i dont know if its just me or does Voronin look better as a midfeilder or deeplying than right up front? not bagging him BTW, hes great.

      im off soon lads, boys be round son for   :food-smiley-004:  :food-smiley-005: :action-smiley-035:
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #45: Nov 08, 2007 08:40:49 am
      Im confused, I dont like being confused. Why did Rafa bring in Babel as a winger when hes obviously better at being a striker? I dont know if its just me or does Voronin look better as a midfeilder or deeplying than right up front? not bagging him BTW, hes great.

      im off soon lads, boys be round son for   :food-smiley-004:  :food-smiley-005: :action-smiley-035:

      Good point about Veronin! Totally agree.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #46: Nov 08, 2007 09:28:06 am
      Indeed, Ukraine occasionally play him in the center midfield, or as a supporting striker.

      Though at this rate...one striker seemingly has to go...can't be Torres...Babel...or crouch....either Voronin or Kuyt IMO.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #47: Nov 08, 2007 12:01:08 pm
      If Crouch keeps up this form, he won't be going anywhere...

      Riise and one other to go in Jan... and IMO I think it will be Momo...
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #48: Nov 09, 2007 12:32:43 am
      Babel...seems to be far more effective at striker than on the wings...therefore one of voronin and kuyt has to go...and we subsequently need a new winger.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #49: Nov 28, 2007 04:29:19 am
      wait till next season or later this season when the pitches improve again....he is going to be world class player for us.....just want to see him develop an understanding with Torres.....
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #50: Nov 28, 2007 08:32:06 am
      Ryan Babbel - Tierry Henry in disguise?
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #51: Nov 28, 2007 09:13:53 am
      Ryan Babbel - Tierry Henry in disguise?

      You know I think he has got that ability and flair and already valued @ £11m! not bad for a 20 yr old Dutch lad (or Hollandish for yorkie)
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #52: Nov 28, 2007 09:19:00 am
      Well 4 goals in 17 games is a start...if he gets 10 this season then surely a position upfront would bring more?
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      Reply #53: Nov 28, 2007 10:07:51 am
      I've got a feeling that one day he'll be an Arsenal player. He doesn't look the slightest interest in kicking a ball for Liverpool, I've seen him play now and he hasn't worked his arse off for us! At least Torres has showed slight emotion!

      Ryan Babel did also say in late June that one day he'll be an Arsenal player, this I don't like. I've got a feeling he's at the wrong club, his attitude on the pitch is awful.

      Disagree with me and call me an idiot if you like, but you'll find out sooner or later and then we can bump this post!

      I also have to disagree and call you and idiot. He did well for us against the jordies on Saturday, and I feel he is still settling in.
      Dont forget some younger players always need a little more time to settle. From what Ive seen of him in flashes he does show real promise, but he is still young, only ever been at Ajax since a kid I think so when you are asked at a younger age to uproot and move to a new country this can sometimes be a hard on young players. I would argue Torres was the same when he first came, the first couple of preseason games he did not look happy at all, but seems to have settled a bit quicker, probably due to his more mature outlook. Another thing to note is the way he is asked to play all over the place which could be why he has taken that extra time to settle, Torres on the other hand knew where he was going to start with. As redman so plainly put it give the guy a chance if you want to berrate someone save it for someone at the SCUM game like Chris Eagles, now theres a lad who likes his hair more than his game.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #54: Nov 28, 2007 10:19:44 am
      I thought he has stepped it up the last couple of matches.

      So much about football is confidence, particularly at such a young age and with the price tag over his head that must weigh like a ton.

      I have personally been hard on Ryan, asking for him to deliver the goods earlier... I think he is coming good and will be a force from now to the end of the season.

      I could be wrong, but I want him (as I do all LFC players) to do well.
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      Reply #55: Nov 28, 2007 11:37:23 am
      Marco van basten described him as having the potential to be the next thierry henry. I can definitely see that as a justified statement from what I've seen so far from babel.

      because:

      -both never shoot more than a few inches wide or over.
      -both have an amazing first touch
      -both have great close control
      -both have great pace but dont rely on it
      -both are 6 feet tall, black and bald ;)
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      Reply #56: Nov 28, 2007 11:45:05 am
      Definetly a star for the future Rafa needs to start giving him more time on the field to show what he can do.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #57: Nov 28, 2007 12:04:41 pm
      He has already shown what he can do inside the box. I've mentined it time and again he needs to be inside the box to do the damage to the opposition, and Babel has proven that many times over. Rafa just have to make sure that he plays him more often inside the box than at the wings. Besides that, we can see that he's an intelligent player and he links up well with Gerrard. Exciting times ahead if Rafa plays him at the right position. When he starts to win medals, the urge of joining the arse will soon be forgotten. But we just have to make sure that he doesn't oversleeps and misses an important game.
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #58: Dec 06, 2007 11:32:06 am
      Read an atricle on the official website where Babel comments on his goals and aspirations for the season. He acknowledges that he is still in a period of adjustment and learning at Liverpool and he aims to net 5 more times before the season draws to an end. Despite his passive, almost uninterested demeanour on the pitch, he is well aware of his levels of performance and where he wants to be at Liverpool. He knows there's a long way to go and lots of work ahead, but he seems up for it...in a sleepy, serious kind of a way...
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      Re: Ryan Babel
      Reply #59: Dec 06, 2007 12:04:52 pm
      I've got a feeling that one day he'll be an Arsenal player. He doesn't look the slightest interest in kicking a ball for Liverpool, I've seen him play now and he hasn't worked his arse off for us! At least Torres has showed slight emotion!

      Ryan Babel did also say in late June that one day he'll be an Arsenal player, this I don't like. I've got a feeling he's at the wrong club, his attitude on the pitch is awful.

      Disagree with me and call me an idiot if you like, but you'll find out sooner or later and then we can bump this post!

      You're not the first on this forum to have a go at Babel and you probably won't be the last, but I'll reply to you in the same way I replied to the last poster criticising Babel... Give the lad a f*cking chance!  It's his first season at the club, and he hasn't even started a fair amount of games yet!  In my opinion he hasn't done too bad, and each time he has come off the bench he has impacted on games (especially lately!).  I think that Babel is a quality addition to the squad and personally I'm happy with how he is performing, but although certain players take time to adapt to new clubs and the Premiership in particular, I think that Babel will go on to have a good impact in his first season... Remember when Thierry Henry first joined Arsenal? It took him time to adapt, but we all know the player he turned out to be.. I'm not comparing Babel to Henry, but I do think that he is a quality player who deserves a chance.

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