Mark Van Bommel (Bayern Munich)

Wasn't believing it when I've seen the rumour on a french transfert site, but some papers seem to seriously link Liverpool with the Netherland 33yr old butcher. I've found on lfctv this copy of a sunday times article :

Kenny Dalglish is close to the first signing of his second spell in charge at Anfield, with Liverpool tabling a bid for Mark van Bommel that meets Bayern Munich’s valuation of their defensive midfielder.

Van Bommel, the Holland captain, has been told he can leave Bayern for any club willing to pay €3m (£2.53m) for his services. Liverpool have made such an offer, although they face competition from AC Milan, who have also bid €3m. A number of other clubs are interested in the 33-year-old but only Liverpool and their Italian rivals have come forward with solid bids.

Van Bommel has long spoken of his desire to play in England, although the lure of AC Milan, who unlike Liverpool can offer Champions League football, is considerable.

Van Bommel has wanted to leave Bayern since the German giants refused his request for a new two-year contract earlier this season. He has just six months left on his current deal, hence his low price tag. With Bayern having signed another central midfielder, the Brazilian, Gustavo, from FC Hoffenheim, the Germans had entered the January transfer window willing to let Van Bommel go.

A snag has developed, however, in the shape of an injury crisis. Bayern’s chief executive, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, is expected to hold a meeting tomorrow with Christian Nerlinger, their general manager, and Louis van Gaal, their coach, at which a decision on Van Bommel’s future will be made. Liverpool’s case may be helped by the fact that relations between Van Gaal and Van Bommel have become strained.

Van Bommel, a former PSV Eindhoven and Barcelona player, was instrumental in getting Holland to the World Cup final and is seen as an experienced, combative performer who can give authority to a Liverpool midfield that has struggled this season after the departure of Javier Mascherano. Christian Poulsen and Raul Meireles have not convinced in the role Mascherano used to fill and Liverpool have once more relied too much on Steven Gerrard, who is suspended for today’s Mersey derby at Anfield. Van Bommel also brings a degree of passing ability, another quality Liverpool have lacked since Xabi Alonso left.

Dalglish, installed as caretaker after Roy Hodgson left by mutual consent last weekend, believes Liverpool have to strengthen their squad during this transfer window. Damien Comolli, Liverpool’s director of football strategy, is understood to share that view. Comolli and Dalglish will this week meet John Henry, one of the club’s principal owners, to discuss transfer policy, with Henry flying to Liverpool from the US to spend several days addressing issues at his club, including appointing a chief executive, with Celtic’s Peter Lawwell favourite to get the job.

it's also reported by nesn that we made an offer :

http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/report-liverpool-make-offer-for-mark-van-bommel-ac-milan-competing-for-transfer.html

and other rumour sites

http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/2011/01/17/liverpool-interested-in-bayern-munich-midfielder-mark-van-bommel/

(edit : in fact not too much reasons to worry their only source may be the sunday times)

WTF... I was thinking Liverpool had no longer the plan to become a retirement house for overpaid ex stars.

Ok he was as good as Gattuso or Mascherano in his prime. But will he really be better than Poulsen when he will be 34 ?

... and also hope that Liverpool anthem will remain "You'll never walk alone", not "You'll never walk again" after his leg breaking tackles.

Can't see it happening, thought NESV were all about buying players with youth on their side.

This would go against everything we've been led to believe so far.

Ok he was as good as Gattuso or Mascherano in his prime. But will he really be better than Poulsen when he will be 34 ?

He'll be better than Poulsen when he's 64 Tonio. ... but I get your drift. Personally i'd prefer we signed a play-maker if we are to strengthen that area. We've already got a plethora of non-scoring, specialised limited, holding players, thank you.  

Might as well spend big on a younger and better player now rather than buy a 33 year old for a season then struggle to offload him when we want to buy a younger player next season.

Makes sense if Kenny sees Shelvey as being the future, kind of a stop gap whilst Shelvey matures.

Kind of makes sense, in a Gary Mac sort of way.

Makes sense if Kenny sees Shelvey as being the future, kind of a stop gap whilst Shelvey matures.

Shelvey isn't a DM, he's a creative offensive midfielder similar to (a poor man's) Gerrard.

But we have the actual Brazil DM, the Portugal DM/CM, and that old danish one and Spearing as back up.

I can't see how recruiting an international DM older than all them may be considered a good idea. If all those aren't rated good enough, the logical choice would be someone with a future, like say M'Vila or Veloso.

Would be a very strange signing indeed

Shelvey isn't a DM, he's a creative offensive midfielder similar to (a poor man's) Gerrard.

But we have the actual Brazil DM, the Portugal DM/CM, and that old danish one and Spearing as back up.

I can't see how recruiting an international DM older than all them may be considered a good idea. If all those aren't rated good enough, the logical choice would be someone with a future, like say M'Vila or Veloso.

Wouldn't say Bommel is a DM ala Masch he also creates has great passing and gets his fair share of goals but he also has steel. Yes getting on a bit now and plays holding for Bayern but think his scoring rate for his country is not that bad.

Van Bommel is more a central midfielder than DM in my opinion. I think the last 2 years he's been better than he ever was. That said, he's too old and would only give us 1,5 seasons. Obviously I'd prefer him to Poulsen though.

Dirty fooker.................

Just what we need sitting in front of our back 4!!

He is a dirty fooker for sure, you only had to watch him in the world cup to see that.  But is it his natural instinct or the fact he has slowed down and has to foul?  He would add some steel that's for sure, but with how many central midfield players, do we really need him?

Filthy player, no thanks.

He is a dirty fooker for sure, you only had to watch him in the world cup to see that.  But is it his natural instinct or the fact he has slowed down and has to foul?  

He was exactly the same in 2006 world cup (remember Portugal-Holland), and in the few Bayern matches I've seen, so I guess it's an instinct.

Now his big quality is to usually succeed to avoid punishment, while making several tackles like the one Gerrard got a red for every match (+ an incredible number of little fouls to break play). Considering the problems Liverpool often have with referees, he may be a good recruit as negociator.

Get sissoko back?

Get sissoko back?

Is he not getting a look in?

Is he not getting a look in?

Think he's more or less first choice!

Get sissoko back?

Momo Sissoko? Are you serious, I would rather have Bommel...

Neither are young or good enough, if we want a batteling midfielder then Steven Ireland or Charlie Adams...

Momo Sissoko? Are you serious, I would rather have Bommel...

Neither are young or good enough, if we want a batteling midfielder then Steven Ireland or Charlie Adams...

Ireland, no. Oh and it's Adam.

The only reason why you get Mark van Bommel into your club is when you desperately need a leader who holds the team together. We got the best leader in the world, we don't need no f***in MvB. Terrible player btw.

Ireland, no. Oh and it's Adam.

Bellamy rates Ireland as the best player he has ever trained with. Now Bellamy has been about a bit

Ireland. . . There's a players with an ironic name and serious mental strenght issues. Forget him. Not a battling defensive mid either. More suited to playing in the hole

Agree racer wouldn't let Ireland anywhere near the club, his ego is bigger than his talent.

I serously hope this is all some Journo tosh. Bommels a dirty blighter and 32... Signings like this are a bad bad move and just stop gap is not what we need right now, we´re screwed this season we need to look at the next and see what will help the team in the long term.

I still rate Ireland, he may or may not have an ego but before the big money came in he was great at City. With regards to MvB still think he is too old...

What about taking Sergio Busquets? If he is as unhappy at Barca since Masch arrived why not get him?

He had one good season passer, a bit like Bentley at Blackburn and let it go to his head

Bommels a dirty blighter

Brilliant Beni. ...

He had one good season passer, a bit like Bentley at Blackburn and let it go to his head

True, he did have 1 good season... However that's one more than half of our midfield players!

He is on the bench at Villa, we could sign him for next to nothing (we all know Houllier loves us and would let us take him on the cheap) if it dosent work out get shot.

With where we are any player with a bit of class / drive could help us out no end!

I'd actually take him. At the moment we've got too many fannies in the team. Having a real hard man in the side wouldn't do us harm, despite his age.

Would be a class short term signing in the way Gary McAllister was hopefully (although how can you beat him?!).

If he was cheap he would add some much needed steel behind Lucas/ Raul and Stevie

Finding hard to contrate on your posts racer with your pic

Dont go into the hot woman thread so. You might find it hard to focus on anything else in this forum

Finding hard to contrate on your posts racer with your pic

Not the only thing you're finding hard!

I'm sorry that was out of line.

What the F**k is this dirty player sh*te? Every one of you saying dirty player would be frothing at the mouth for Suarez would you not?

I would prefer not to sign this guy simply for his age, but he's a player i admire when i watch him. Certainly a class player who has some toughness to him, something our team seems to lack in lately. Just aint the kinda player we really need at the moment, plenty of the holding/defensive midfield types about already.

Though if we can do a swap deal with Poulsen....

Though if we can do a swap deal with Poulsen....

I'm very open to swapping any player in exchange for Poulsen to be honest!

In all seriousness this isn't the type of transfer we should be looking for as it's been stated, we're supposed to be going through a rebuilding period or a transitional period as some call it, the time has passed where we would've been looking to add veteran players to our squad, bringing in a 33 (34 in April) year old Dutchman captaining Bayern in the Bundesliga doesn't seem like a sound investment to me, would only prove to stump the likes of Spearing coming through.

 We signed enough players close to or around the 30 mark in the summer, we certainly need to come to terms with just how old our squad is!

 Just a reminder Carragher soon to be 33, Aurelio 31, Kyrgiakos 31, Poulsen 30, Gerrard 30, Dirk 30, Jovanovic almost 30,Maxi 30, Konchesky 29, Cole 29.

Still a decent player in what he does however.

I'm very open to swapping any player in exchange for Poulsen to be honest!

In all seriousness this isn't the type of transfer we should be looking for as it's been stated, we're supposed to be going through a rebuilding period or a transitional period as some call it, the time has passed where we would've been looking to add veteran players to our squad, bringing in a 33 (34 in April) year old Dutchman captaining Bayern in the Bundesliga doesn't seem like a sound investment to me, would only prove to stump the likes of Spearing coming through.

 We signed enough players close to or around the 30 mark in the summer, we certainly need to come to terms with just how old our squad is!

 Just a reminder Carragher soon to be 33, Aurelio 31, Kyrgiakos 31, Poulsen 30, Gerrard 30, Dirk 30, Jovanovic almost 30,Maxi 30, Konchesky 29, Cole 29.

Still a decent player in what he does however.

Agree with you totally although there maybe a need to make exceptions occasionally. As of now, the av. age of the squad is already in around 28. Our youth players are coming up quite well and we're already seeing the potential in some of them. I don't think they're looking at the older players.

I like him. Very good player. If it's a stop gap kind of thing, i'd go for it but depends how much wages he wants.

Holds a midfield together, really gets a team fighting.

Holds a midfield together, really gets a team fighting.

Or he just does the fighting for the team

Either way, agreed though. We are rebuilding, and as great as it would be - not every great player available to sign will be a 23 year old with an eye to the future. If we can get him for good money, on reasonable wages, and get 2 solid years out of him - good business.

I wrote this off when I first read it, but thinking about it, he would be a good signing. If we played 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 he would slot right in to the defensive shield spot, freeing up Lucas or Meireles more.

this transfer would make no sense

FSG would never support this, considering we already have lucas whos improving by the day

I,,m open to taking van bommel if Poulson goes the other way. I agree it would be like a macalister signing, loys of experience and a tough takler, which is somthing we need. If we can get Poulson, Jova and J Cole off the wage bill then van bommels wage demands would not be a problem.

Van Bommel is quality and he would be a quality addition to the squad for a suitable price.

Or just swap the likes of Konchesky/Poulsen.

We need someone tough like van Bommel, I think it would be a good move if he doesn't want ridiculous wages or we offload someone like Jova.

Or just swap the likes of Konchesky/Poulsen.

Why would Bayern want them ?

Get him in, we need a central midfielder with a pair of bollocks. Get him in and ship Poulsen and Lucas out. Then get a top class midfielder or two in the summer. Job done.

But he's like 33 years old?!

Still a better player than Poulsen will ever be, though.

But he's like 33 years old?!

Still a better player than Poulsen will ever be, though.

You bugger, just made me feel really old with that comment

Still a better player than Poulsen will ever be, though.

I find you all evil with Poulsen.

I remember him with the Sevilla side who won UEFA and supercup and he was a real beast in his prime, not far from VB level (the two had the same ability to steal a ball and deliver an instant excellent counter attack pass in the same move ; in addition to their destroyer skills).

Ok he now look 3 times older than VB, seeming to have taken a year for every week on Juventus bench, but he wasn't like that all his carreer.

ps : back on topic, as Dexter say VB isn't declining, and if Kenny really want him, I'll try to forget how much I hate this player and welcome his recruitment. But I still think it would be a bad sign from owners if they prefer to put 2,5 millions on a 33yr old than 8 or 10 on a promising 21 or 25, there were far too much "quick fixes" in recent years, and I was hoping to see the end of this politic.

The reason I can see for this transfer is our midfield is clearly lacking bite and has been bullied in way to many matches, he could do a job for the rest of the season and maybe next season to sure up us defo not getting relegated.

 I could handle a midfield of himself and Meireles think there is good balance there.

Although, has been rightly pointed out, he is one dirty fooker, it could be a good short team signing.  That would probably mean shipping out Poulson and I've not heard any stories about him moving since Roy left.  So at present, it's probably a no go, unless we're going to play him at CB!!

SSN making us 7/1 to sign him with Spurs at 8/1

I find you all evil with Poulsen.

Also with Konchesky.

Two very bad signings which are not only wasting the money but also the potential of youngsters coming through the ranks. And the fact that the manager who signed them is gone kinda makes me think all he wanted to do was make us become an average side!

Anywasy, on topic, well, I think Van Bommel can do a job in midfield because he is that kind of 'tough' player we've been lacking. Shame he's already 33 because he could do a job for us.

Also with Konchesky.

No, Konchesky was always under average, Poulsen was good but declined early for unknown reasons. For me the Poulsen transfert was more in the Joe Cole category, a bet on a player who would have been good if he could retrieve his best level, but failed to.

Anyway...

He had lost his legs at Juventus and was clear for any scout that had bothered to scout him. Makes me think we bought Poulsen blind on Hodgson say so

Are Spurs worried about us? Every player we're linked with they hop onto.

Are Spurs worried about us? Every player we're linked with they hop onto.

Nah, they are just copying Manchester Uniteds scouting policy... follow us round the world then bid more.

Nah, they are just copying Manchester Uniteds scouting policy... follow us round the world then bid more.

The tides turning, as soon as whisky nose fades away (asap) they'll find themselves on a slope downwards, moaning arse will get the job but won't be given the funds he's had before, revenue will fall, their owners will fail and the glory hunters will start to realise that payin £100 to travel from surrey to watch them get beat again at home is too much.

can we do a straight swap for poulson? i'd take him for his organisational skills as well as tackling but paying 2.5m for a 34 year old? sounds a bit nuts

Hearing this today..

My heart has just sank 

Hearing this today..

My heart has just sank 

Never has the word this caused someone so much hurt.

I like him. Very good player. If it's a stop gap kind of thing, I'd go for it but depends how much wages he wants.

Holds a midfield together, really gets a team fighting.

I agree 100%. 

Never has the word this caused someone so much hurt.

 

People probably thought Gary Mac was a funny signing so who knows we need a bit of steel and composure in the middle of the park.
If he is free or on loan good be a good 6 months deal.

Never has the word this caused someone so much hurt.

The opportunity arose and you took it....

I'm not a big fan of loan signing but we need a few quality players for the rest of the season at least.

Van Bommel will give us something we lack and that's a tough presence in midfield and he is also a very good footballer as well.

If someone would take Poulsen on loan to even out the wages it would make even more sense.

But he's like 33 years old?!

Still a better player than Poulsen will ever be, though.

A short term fix until the Summer, where hopefully we'll get a substantial amount to strengthen our pathetic midfield. We need some bollocks in that midfield, too many faggots.

A short term fix until the Summer, where hopefully we'll get a substantial amount to strengthen our pathetic midfield. We need some bollocks in that midfield, too many faggots.

id imagine we push very hard for M'Vila this summer...Commoli has rated him veryyyyy high

He is 33 years old, but he did just play in the World Cup final and on a 6 month contract, he could be a good signing -

Would you feel more confident with Spearing or van Bommel as our DCM? Of course there is always Poulsen...?

Harsh but fair Hardcore. We need an enforcer. M'Vila would be a great summer signing.

vB would be good on loan to us but we have a couple of others - Poulsen, Spearing, Meireles, Lucas - that we need to deal with. pair vB with Lucas? or put him behind Lucas and Raul? too many players not enough certain starters in CM.

big bayern and van bommel fan but first let's get lukaku and suarez

Could give some grit to the midfield in away games,we  have needed someone to grab games by the scruff of the neck since Mascha went.Look at the options, Poulsen not a chance with that pace.Raul not his job to be fair.Lucas,again limited in that position although i think he has got a lot better.Loan would do for me.

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Liverpool lose out on Mark van Bommel as midfielder closes in on Wolsfburg move
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Mark van Bommel is set to close the door on a move to Liverpool by signing for Wolfsburg. The Bayern Munich midfielder is out of contract in the summer and can leave now for a relatively small fee. Liverpool were keen on the Holland international but hoped to sign him on a free and have other more pressing targets who represent better value for money. Van not the man for Liverpool

Van Bommel is staying in the Bundesliga Tottenham and Manchester City have been linked, but the 33-year-old's hopes of securing a lucrative two-and-a-half-year contract have put off suitors. Wolfsburg's persistence appears to have paid off and it is thought they have persuaded Van Bommel to stay in the Bundesliga and sign an 18-month deal with the under-performing side. Beleaguered boss Steve McClaren has made it clear he wants reinforcements during the January transfer window and World Cup finalist Van Bommel is admired as much for his leadership qualities as his tough-tackling style. Meanwhile, McClaren's future has again been brought into question amid claims that Martin Jol has been discreetly talking to the club about the manager's post

Wolfsburg considered McClaren's post before Christmas but decided to publicly back the former England boss despite crashing out of the German Cup and slipping towards the relegation zone in the Bundesliga.   

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i was sort of warming up to the idea of getting him here actually :|

would give us that asshole pr**k we have been in need of

This thread makes me laugh.

Off to Milan or staying at Bayern. He signed a contract with Milan but now suddenly Bayern want him to stay, while they already signed Gustavo too.

Signed for Milan

hes f***in w*nk, hes about 70 years old, why do we want him?
rather go for much younger players who can tacke a player unlike vAN bOMMELL who just snaps them.

Would cry if he joined...

He has signed for Milan

Signed for Milan

He has signed for Milan

You are a good disciple of the King.

"He's staying."
"He's staying, here."

He has signed for Milan

AC Milan sign Mark Van Bommel from Bayern Munich

Netherlands captain Mark van Bommel has left Bayern Munich to join AC Milan on a free transfer.

The 34-year-old midfielder asked to be released from his contract at Bayern after being sidelined by coach Louis van Gaal.

Dutchman Van Bommel, who has played 66 times for his country, said in a statement: "I am leaving FC Bayern with a heavy heart but with head held high."

Van Bommel's contract was due to expire at the end of the season.

Milan are top of Serie A and Bayern are fourth in the Bundesliga but Van Bommel leaves Germany with nothing but praise for the supporters of his former club.

"I had four and a half wonderful and successful years at Bayern and would like to express my gratitude to the club and the fans," he stated.

"FC Bayern will always have a place in my heart."
   

Van Bommel began his career in Dutch football, where he had spells with Fortuna Sittard and PSV Eindhoven.

Frank Rijkaard then took him to Barcelona and he played in the Barca team that defeated Arsenal in the 2006 Champions League final.

Van Bommel joined Bayern that summer and was voted player of the year in his first season.

He won two German championships at Bayern and succeeded Oliver Kahn as club captain.

Van Bommel became the first non-German to be given the captain's armband at Bayern and led the club to last season's Champions League final.

However, he lost his place in the starting line-up this term under coach Louis Van Gaal and asked for his contract to be terminated early.   



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