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      Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up

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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #69: Jan 22, 2011 02:32:04 pm
      Wrong thread im on my phone at momement and cant put up the link but anyway its about rafa looking for afresh start in the premier leauge.

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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #70: Jan 22, 2011 02:53:22 pm
      But you gotta have faith, cause it's the only youth set up we have.  :depressed:

      And have faith I do. Sorry if that upsets you lad.
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      Reply #71: Jan 22, 2011 03:12:42 pm
      Well said Kenny, credit were credits due. Takes a red to say something honest and positive about Rafa.

      Probably on a different thread but Rafa's also came out in support of Dalglish:
      "It will be much better with Kenny because he knows the club and what the fans want,"

      "He can talk with the players and they will feel and understand what it means to be a Liverpool player," added Benitez.

      "I think that Kenny has been a very good appointment and hopefully, it will be successful."

      F**k it. I love them both!
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #72: Jan 22, 2011 11:18:03 pm
      he"s put a few pounds on around the waist ,me thinks too much spaghetti bolognese
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #73: Jan 23, 2011 10:29:36 am
      Big marks for Kenny praising Rafa.
      Shows the man's humility.



      Boot on the other foot.
      Rafas remarks?
      The rest?. Up to six months ago?
      Not Rafa's fault.
      None of it. Very sorry.

      Nor suppose was Milan.
      None of it. Very sorry.


      http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Rafa-Benitez-on-Liverpool-crisis-It-s-not-my-fault-sorry-amazing-new-BBC-5-Live-interview-article678367.html

      Benitez on Liverpool crisis: "It's not my fault, sorry"

      Published 12:32 22/01/11 By MirrorFootball

        


      Rafael Benitez has rejected suggestions that Liverpool's struggles are partly down to his management, insisting:

      "It's not my fault, ....  sorry".

      The Reds endured a poor season last year as they finished a lowly seventh under Benitez, before the Spaniard departed and was replaced by Roy Hodgson.

      Liverpool's fortunes have plummeted even further since then, however, with Hodgson gone and replaced by Kenny Dalglish with the team currently four points above the relegation zone.

      Benitez, who joined Inter Milan in the summer but left before Christmas, told Five Live Sport he acknowledges not all of his moves in the transfer market were successful.

      "I agree, so we know we made some mistakes," he said.

      "Sometimes, maybe one player is a good player and after he doesn't settle down, but if you see, we have a net spending of between 10, 12 million.

      "So I think that this, for a top side...it's not big money.

      "And still I would say to you that we are not happy with some of the signings but we are really pleased with the majority of them.

      "In the team now, Pepe Reina, Glen Johnson, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Fabio Aurelio, Lucas Leiva, Fernando Torres, Maxi Rodriquez, Dirk Kuyt, so it's a massive, massive team.

      "I am not taking all the credit, I think the team is good, the problem may be the mentality. So I think Kenny can change these things and will hopefully be good for the team.

      "But the other thing is that Christian Purslow (former managing director) and Hodgson, they signed seven players.

      "Seven players is enough to change a squad, so you can take responsibility for signings in the past but seven players can change a squad. So you cannot continue with this story about the legacy.

      "It's not my fault, sorry."

      Benitez believes Dalglish can turn around the club's fortunes.

      "They will be much better with Kenny because he knows the club, knows the fans and what they want," he said. "He can talk with the players and they will feel and understand what it means to be Liverpool football players.

      "I feel that Kenny has been a very good appointment and hopefully will be successful."



      "Its not my fault."    Na Na Na Na Na.

       Remember someone else very recently saying the same.

      Very Hodgson-esque remark methinks.


      "Seven weren't mine".
      No Rafa they werent.

      76  over six years were though.

      Looking for work you're not going to admit anything.


      STOP PRESS. READ THE NEWS. We are not in crisis now,thanks.



      Kenny.
      Show the pair of them.










      The full list of players Rafa's signed since he's been at the club (please read the summary below):

      2004/05

      £2m - Josemi: peanuts and was moved on in a swap for Kromkamp 18 months later
      £1.5m - Antonio Nunez: part of the Michael Owen deal and filled a gap for a while. Peanuts.
      £10.7m - Xabi Alonso: Massive success and sold for £30m+ in the summer when he wanted to leave
      £6m - Luis Garcia: Massive success and sold to Athletico Madrid for £4m
      Free - Pelligrino: Stop gap that allowed us to rest Sami for league games, benefitting us massively in Istanbul. Now on the coaching staff.
      £6.3m - Fernando Morientes: Pretty much everyone made up when we signed him, top class, but never settled. Sold for £3m to Valencia.
      £1m - Scott Carson: One the most highly rated young keepers around. Lost out through injury and signing of Reina when Dudek left the club. Sold for £3.25m.

      Total bought: £27.5m

      Free - Marcus Babbel: Released to Stuttgart at the end of his career.
      £2.5m - Danny Murphy: Xabi Alonso signed to fill the role Murphy had in the side
      £8.5m - Michael Owen: Wouldn't sign a new contract and sold before he left on a free. He's done nothing since that is a masterstroke with hindsight.
      Free - Stephane Henchoz: Released to Celtic at the end of his career

      Total sold: £11m

      A total of £16.5m net spend in his first year at the club, with the vast majority of that being spent on Xabi Alonso.

      2004/05 net spend: £16.5m

      2005/06

      £240,000 - Antonio Barragan: Kid for the future. Sold for £675,000 to Deportivo a year later.
      Free - Boudewijn Zenden: Signed for nothing and released for nothing. Did a job for us.
      £6m - Pepe Reina: In the top 3 or 4 keepers in the world now and still young. One of Rafa's best signings.
      £5.6m - Momo Sissoko: Brilliant for a few years, had that eye injury and sold to Juventus when his form dipped for £8.2m. Replaced by Mascherano.
      £7m - Peter Crouch: One signing I did question but proved to be a great bit of business. Turned him from a laughing stock into an international. Sold for £11m.
      Unkown - Miki Roque: Kid bought for peanuts. Sold again for an unknown amount.
      £150,000 - Jack Hobbs: Highly rated 16yr old signed from Lincoln. Didn't progress as hoped and sold to Leicester for a reported £1.5m, although figure not confirmed.
      £190,000 Besian Idrizaj: No idea who he is
      £1.5m - Mark Gonzales: Cheap player to provide back up for the left wing. Sold for £3.5m to Real Betis.
      Exchange - Paul Anderson: Swapped for John Welsh. Sold for £250,000.
      Exchange - Jan Kromkamp: Swapped for Josemi. Later sold for £1.75m
      £5.8m - Daniel Agger: Blighted by injuries but potentially top class and great signing for the money.
      £250,000 - David Martin: Young reserve keeper
      Free - Robbie Fowler: Pay as you play deal and no risk involved. Scored a few goals. Released in the summer.

      Total bought: £26.73

      Free - Vladimir Smicer: Out of contract and released. Played a small part in Istanbul.
      £3.5m - El Hadji Diouf: The best £3.5m Rafa has ever recieved.
      Free - Pellegrino: Filled the gap in the last 5 months of the previous season, not good enough and released.
      £2m - Alou Diarra: Sold for £2m. One of Houllier's buys.
      £2m - Antonio Nunez: Bought for £1.5m and now sold for £2m when didn't work out.
      £6.5m - Milan Baros: A Houllier signing sold at a profit. He's done nothing since.
      Exchange - John Welsh: Swapped for Paul Anderson
      Exchange - Josemi: Swapped for Kronkamp.

      Total sold: £14m

      2005/06 net spend: £12.73m

      2006/07

      £6m - Craig Bellamy: Good signing and later sold for £7.5m to fund Torres deal.
      £2m - Gabriel Palletta: Played a few league cup games, not good enough and sold for £1.2m
      Free - Fabio Aurelio: Very injury prone but a good player when fit. Great signing for nothing.
      £6.7m - Jermaine Pennant: Second choice after missing out on Alves. Ran his contract down and released. Attitude stank.
      £9m - Dirk Kuyt: Has his critics, but has been brilliant for the money. 15 goals last season from wide and vital to the way we play. Ultimate pro. Great signing.
      £200,000 - Nabil El Zhar: Few cameos last season and improving. Injured now. Promising still. Peanuts.
      £750,000 - Astrit Ajdarevic: No idea who he is, and released on a free to Leicester.
      Loan - Daniele Padelli: Reserve keeper, made one appearance and never seen again.
      Undisclosed - Jordy Brouwer: Young reserve.
      £2.5m - Alvaro Arbeloa: Bargain signing, great service for a few years and sold for £3.5m when running his contract down.
      Loan - Javier Mascherano: Rescued from West Ham, now one of the best defensive midfielders in the world and will probably be sold to Barca this summer for a massive profit. Paid £18.6m for him a year later at end of loan deal.

      Total bought: £27.15m

      £200,000 - Zak Whitbread: Youngster
      Undisclosed - Bruno Cheyrou: Houllier flopped, sold for a reported £1.5m.
      £3m - Fernando Morientes: Didn't work out. Cut his losses.
      Free - Didi Hamann: Great servant, released at the end of his career
      £675,000 - Antonio Barragan: Paid £240,000 for him.
      £2m - Djimi Traore: Houllier signing and daylight robbery getting £2m for him
      £500,000 - Neil Mellor: Signed as a kid and did a job for a while. Not good enough and released.
      £1.75m - Jan Kromkamp: Nunez bought for £2m, swapped for him, who then sold for £1.75m. Stop gaps at minimal expense.
      £525,000 - Darren Potter: Acadamy lad, not good enough and robbery getting that much for him.
      £1.5m - Steven Warnock: Probably sold to cheap and looks a mistake with hindsight. Good squad player.
      Free - Salif Diao: The clearout of Houllier's flops continues.

      Total sold: £10.15m

      2006/07 net spend: £17m

      2007/08


      £5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove.
      Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
      £270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
      £1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m.
      £20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century
      Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
      £5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain.
      £11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed.
      Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
      £1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain.
      £6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money.
      £18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal

      Total bought: £70.7m

      £2.7m – Florent Simana-Pongolle: Houllier youngster sold wanting first team football.
      £100,000 – Daniel O’Donnell: Kid sold
      Free – Jerzy Dudek: Released at end of contract
      Free - Zenden: Released at end of contract
      Free – Robbie Fowler: Released at end of contract
      £4m – Luis Garcia: Wanted to return to Spain. Great service.
      £6m – Djibril Cisse: Houllier signing sold to part fund Torres deal.
      £7.5m – Craig Bellamy: Sold at profit to part fund Torres deal
      £3.5m – Mark Gonzales: Signed for £1.5m and sold when didn’t work out.
      £1.2m – Gabriel Palletta: Bought for £2m but never worked out. Young defender.
      £3.5m – Chris Kirkland: Houllier signing. Injury prone and wanted first team football.
      £8.2m – Momo Sissoko: Great signing, good service, sold when lost his form at a profit.

      Total sold: £36.7m

      2007/08 net spend: £34m

      2008/09

      Free – Philip Degen: Garbage, but free.
      £7m - Andrea Dossena: Italian international left back. Hasn’t settled. Bad signing.
      £3.5m – Diego Cavalieri: Reserve keeper. Only played league cup games so far.
      £1.5m – David N’gog: Young French striker. Promising.
      £19m – Robbie Keane: Everyone made up when we signed him. Didn’t work out and sold back to Spurs for £16m.
      £8m - Albert Riera: Spanish international. Started well but jury still out.

      Total bought: £39m

      £4m – John Arne Riise: Good servant but form tailed off. Snapped their hands off at £4m.
      Free – Harry Kewell: Harry who?
      Undisclosed – Anthony Le Tallec: Houllier youngster finally released. Fee not known.
      £11m – Peter Crouch: Laughing stock bought for £7m. Great signing. Wanted first team football.
      £2.25m – Danny Guthrie: Youngster from Acadamy thought not good enough.
      £3.25m – Scott Carson: Injury prone and Reina now first choice. Sold at profit.
      Undisclosed – Steve Finnan: Sold for a fee believed to be £1m
      £16m – Robbie Keane: Didn’t work out.
      Undisclosed – Jack Hobbs: Young defender that didn’t progress. Sold for believed to £1.5m.

      Total sold: £36.5m

      2008/09 net spend: £2.5m


      2009/10

      £17.5m – Glen Johnson: Big fee, but has been brilliant so far.
      £17.1m - Alberto Aquilani: Injured so far but meant to be a class act. Highly rated in Italy.
      £2m – Sotirios Kyrgiakos: Last minute signing to fill Hyypia’s shoes. Only money we had to spend.
      £160,000 – Daniel Ayala: Young defender, played a few times this season and looked promising.

      Total bought: £36.76m

      £250,000 – Paul Anderson: Youngster that didn’t progess.
      Free – Jermaine Pennant: Out of contract. Poor signing.
      Free – Miki Roque: No idea who he is. Bought for peanuts.
      £3m – Sebastian Leto: Signed for £1.8m but didn’t get a work permit. Had to sell.
      £3.5m – Alvaro Arbeloa: Wanted to leave and out of contract in the summer.
      £30m – Xabi Alonso: Wanted to leave. Bought for £10.7m. Great signing.

      Total sold: £36.75m

      2009/10 net spend: £10,000


      Total Players Bought: £228,976,000
      Total Players Sold: £145,100,000

      Total Net Spend: £83,876,000
      « Last Edit: Jan 23, 2011 12:17:57 pm by eurored »
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #74: Jan 23, 2011 12:12:11 pm
      A high turnover due to a sell to buy policy. Still the fact remains our squad this season is not Rafa's fault no matter what you claim. Masch, Aquilani, Insua, Benayoun - out. . . Cole, Poulson, Konchesky, Jovanovic, Shelvey, Meireles, Wilson - In. Big turnover in the summer and not all good additions. So as far as the squad that needs replacement most are those who came in the summer. Blame Purslow and our previous owners not investing money and signing cheap replacements
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #75: Jan 23, 2011 12:32:07 pm
      I find strange that Rafa counts Wilson, Shelvey and Jovanovic as Hodgson signings. It seemed clear this summer that we had interest for them when he was still in charge. And for Jovanovic it seemed as clear that Roy didn't wanted this last Rafa recruit.

      Anyway, Rafa brought in a lot of promising players including Suso, Pacheco, N'Gog, Lucas, Ayala, Insua ... and I'd count Shelvey and Wilson too, would he accept to take the responsability for finding them.

      His senior signings, like Dossena, Reira, Keane of course, as the unclaimed Jovanovic, were less astute for me, but he can't be accused to have done nothing to prepare the future.
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #76: Jan 23, 2011 12:43:53 pm
      And have faith I do. Sorry if that upsets you lad.

      Upsets me? Lad?    

      Where's that famous Scouse sense of humour, wee man; or have you not read up on it yet?  :mixed-smiley-009:



       
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #77: Jan 23, 2011 01:21:42 pm
      Well, a couple of observation. Its fantastic to see Rafa's vision for the acadamy endorsed be Kenny, it only goes to ilustrate just the the type of manager Kenny is, "team player" and all that, but then we've always known what calibre of man Kenny is!
      TBO I'm more interested in, and I know Rafa would be, in seeing who, and where from replacements for Suso, Cody, kelly etc are going to be coming from. After all if these kids are as good as we hope and would like to think, then the academy momentum MUST be sustained!
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #78: Jan 23, 2011 01:54:45 pm
      eurored, this is about Kenny praising Rafa yet you still bring up Rafa's failings - which he undeniably has had.

      You still hold your head up high though, the Hodgson era is on your shoulders and the rest who couldn't see what Rafa did for this club. I know in my heart we wouldn't be in the position we found ourselves in if Rafa was at the helm when we were taken over.

      But again, you keep going about Rafa's failings. You won't be swaying my opinion on him because he is a legendary figure, an ambassador for this club and a Champions League winning manager who had a record to stand up to the best at this club. Nothing of what you say will change that.
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #79: Jan 23, 2011 02:17:23 pm
      eurored, this is about Kenny praising Rafa yet you still bring up Rafa's failings - which he undeniably has had.

      You still hold your head up high though, the Hodgson era is on your shoulders and the rest who couldn't see what Rafa did for this club. I know in my heart we wouldn't be in the position we found ourselves in if Rafa was at the helm when we were taken over.

      But again, you keep going about Rafa's failings. You won't be swaying my opinion on him because he is a legendary figure, an ambassador for this club and a Champions League winning manager who had a record to stand up to the best at this club. Nothing of what you say will change that.

      Ditto.

      Some people just dont understand even if its staring them in the face.
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #80: Jan 23, 2011 02:24:34 pm
      eurored, this is about Kenny praising Rafa yet you still bring up Rafa's failings - which he undeniably has had.

      You still hold your head up high though, the Hodgson era is on your shoulders and the rest who couldn't see what Rafa did for this club. I know in my heart we wouldn't be in the position we found ourselves in if Rafa was at the helm when we were taken over.

      But again, you keep going about Rafa's failings. You won't be swaying my opinion on him because he is a legendary figure, an ambassador for this club and a Champions League winning manager who had a record to stand up to the best at this club. Nothing of what you say will change that.
      Couldn't have put it better myself!!
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #81: Jan 23, 2011 05:17:41 pm
      What the are you bringing all that sh*t into this thread euroread enough threads for that
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      Re: Kenny praises Rafa for his revamp of the youth set-up
      Reply #82: Jan 23, 2011 05:28:37 pm
      Upsets me? Lad?   

      Where's that famous Scouse sense of humour, wee man; or have you not read up on it yet?  :mixed-smiley-009:

      It's having a kip.

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