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      Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)

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      Dexter
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #23: Mar 12, 2011 02:42:56 am
      Accepted that Diego mate, but I just want to know we here think is there a chance Susu can develop to similar level of Ganso ? Because I think it's less chance we can sign this Brazilian star.
      Don't think it matters mate, Suso is 4 years younger than him, he has a long way to go. Besides, there's room for both of them in the team I'd say if it would ever come to that. Can't really predict what happens in a few years, but by the time Suso can make a real impact for us Gerrard might not be around anymore either.
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      Reply #24: Mar 12, 2011 07:23:31 am
      Suso plays deeper than Ganso anyway. Different positions.
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      Reply #25: Mar 12, 2011 04:41:38 pm
      Suso plays deeper than Ganso anyway. Different positions.

      Suso is continually being selected to play off the striker or pushed up on the wing. Not playing deep too often these days, seems like they want to bring him through in a more attacking role.

      Pacheco has been playing deeper than Suso actually.
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      Reply #26: Mar 12, 2011 04:56:10 pm
      Didn't know he'd been moved back to behind the striker. Thanks for that.

      Who knows. Don't think we'd go for him.
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      Reply #27: Mar 12, 2011 10:40:03 pm
      Accepted that Diego mate, but I just want to know we here think is there a chance Susu can develop to similar level of Ganso ? Because I think it's less chance we can sign this Brazilian star.

      Hmm.. can't help you then, honestly never saw Suso play. Don't have access to reserves/youth matches :(


      As for Ganso, I mentioned he got a new contract recently but I was wrong - he didn't, not yet, and has complained about it several times.

      I also forgot to say he was injured since last year. He has just came in as a substitute after half time in the match Santos vs Botafogo-SP. He's only been on the pitch for 4 minutes, after months without a game, and already made a wonderful pass to Luiz Eduardo, who crossed the ball and Elano scored the 1st goal of the match. Instant impact. F**kin genius.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #28: Mar 12, 2011 10:44:06 pm
      10 minutes.

      Scored.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #29: Mar 12, 2011 11:12:06 pm
      Suso is continually being selected to play off the striker or pushed up on the wing. Not playing deep too often these days, seems like they want to bring him through in a more attacking role.

      Pacheco has been playing deeper than Suso actually.

      So slightly off-topic but is that doing him any good? He had more of like a long-passing skill if I remember right, so that makes me think he is more suited to a deep midfielder role. Am I wrong?
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      Reply #30: Mar 12, 2011 11:14:07 pm
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      Reply #31: Mar 12, 2011 11:15:45 pm
      So slightly off-topic but is that doing him any good? He had more of like a long-passing skill if I remember right, so that makes me think he is more suited to a deep midfielder role. Am I wrong?

      Right/wrong. He has an incredible passing range but that's because he's just so talented. He's a lightweight so it'll be tough to stick him into the midfield (not that he couldn't).

      He's really, really great when he's able to just focus on creating going forward. His link up play is great too.

      He's done well in every position I've seen him in, including on the flanks although I really don't like him out there. I think there is still a chance he breaks through playing a bit deeper but for right now it looks like they are bringing him along in a more attacking position.
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      Reply #32: Mar 12, 2011 11:27:58 pm
      To me Suso seems a similar type player like Sneijder, brilliant passing, long distance, through passes, doesn't matter, great movement aswell. Can play behind the striker or deeper, probably best in a free roaming role. And he seems to have good dribbling skills aswell. Very exciting prospect.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #33: Mar 12, 2011 11:40:14 pm
      To me Suso seems a similar type player like Sneijder, brilliant passing, long distance, through passes, doesn't matter, great movement aswell. Can play behind the striker or deeper, probably best in a free roaming role. And he seems to have good dribbling skills aswell. Very exciting prospect.

      Sums it up for me as well.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #34: Mar 13, 2011 01:58:37 am
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      Reply #35: Mar 13, 2011 03:24:19 am
      IMO, as far as info on this thread I believe Ganso was a good player one but I don't think it's our realistic target. First is his price must be very high due to many big clubs might after him, second I think we have priority on other positions such as wing forward/LB/DM and CB, and third I think we still have adequate cover for CAM.
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      Reply #36: Mar 13, 2011 09:16:55 pm
      Right/wrong. He has an incredible passing range but that's because he's just so talented. He's a lightweight so it'll be tough to stick him into the midfield (not that he couldn't).

      He's really, really great when he's able to just focus on creating going forward. His link up play is great too.

      He's done well in every position I've seen him in, including on the flanks although I really don't like him out there. I think there is still a chance he breaks through playing a bit deeper but for right now it looks like they are bringing him along in a more attacking position.

      To me Suso seems a similar type player like Sneijder, brilliant passing, long distance, through passes, doesn't matter, great movement aswell. Can play behind the striker or deeper, probably best in a free roaming role. And he seems to have good dribbling skills aswell. Very exciting prospect.

      Much obliged!!
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #37: Mar 23, 2011 05:16:51 pm
      He's said to be unhappy at Santos for the way he was treated in the 6 months he was out injured - while their other star, Neymar, got a much improved contract, he never did. Already rejected about 3 offers from Santos, but supposedly he's said he's ready to leave.

      It's being said Santos is preparing to sell him after the Libertadores (that is, june or july at most, depending on when they go out).

      His release clause is 50M euros but Santos would obviously sell him for less, just don't know how much.

      Young, future world class player, I'd be extremely excited if we got a player of his calibre.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #38: Mar 23, 2011 05:47:51 pm
      Ya saw that to Diego, would love a signing like this, how much would he realistically cost
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #39: Mar 23, 2011 06:01:43 pm
      I'd say he'll cost 25-30 million, probably to Inter Milan.
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      Re: Paulo Henrique Lima (Ganso)
      Reply #40: Mar 23, 2011 06:14:50 pm
      I really don't know how much he would cost, Brazilian teams normally can't refuse big offers from Europe (Kaká left São Paulo for 8.5 million euros), but Santos did refuse a big offer from Chelsea (don't remember how much, more than 20M if I'm not mistaken) for Neymar. But with Ganso wanting to leave, it's a different story. Will depend a lot on how many clubs will be interested.

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