First paragaph. You may of had the fortune of following my club for longer than I have. Not a great deal can be done about that. I didn't chose when I was born. If I could of, I'd of chose late 50s but that's not really the point. Makes no odds how long you've been following a club, you can still be a glory hunter. If you started following us in 1971 or 2001, makes no odds you can still be a glory hunter. And the way you come across to me makes me believe you are. Not gonna appologise for feeling like that nor make any bones about it, I think you're a glory hunter - plain and simple.
No we don't deserve a place at the top of the table. You have to earn that right. We're deserving of nothing. If you knew anything about Liverpool Football Club, you'd know that. During the glory of the 60s, 70s and 80s we never rested upon what we'd won. We put it in the cabinet and went on to do better this year. Now, it appears, we have people expecting our name to pull us through. It doesn't work like that. We deserve what we get, if we're not prepared to put the effort in to get the results to be at the top of the table, then we don't deserve to be at the top of the tabkle. If it was all about name then Leeds, Forest, Sheff Wed, would all be in the League ahead of clubs like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool, Stoke. We are still the biggest club in the world as far as I'm concerned but that does not mean we deserve to win the League or be anywhere near challenging for it.
So by saying it's of no worth is you wanting us to win it? Saying you're not arsed if we're in it or not is you wanting us to the win the Europa League? As I've already said, if your heart isn't it then don't bother celebrating when we win it if you can't be arsed with the earlier rounds. That's the true mark of a glory hunter as well, somebody who only cares when it comes to the semi finals and the final but sort of ignores the early rounds.
And yes the way you speak does make me believe that. Regardless of what you post elsewhere. The way you've spoken about the Europa League suggests to me you'd rather see us lose. I can't fathom anybody wanting us to lose ever. Whehther that be to avoid Europa League football or lose to Chelsea so United don't win the League like last season. We set ourselves to win every game.
Why is the club too good for the Europa League? Because we have a rich history of success including three UEFA Cups. That's the past. It's the present we live in and this present Liverpool Football Club isn't good enough for anything more than the Europa League - if it was we'd be there. Our name may suggest we should be on the biggest stage of all, but that's again expecting our name to do the job for us. Our name is global but that does not give us the right to play European Cup football. We have to earn that right.
As for me being king of supporters? Well if the king of the supporters is a passionate, loyal, knowledgable, believing, sometimes blinded by his love of his club then f**k yeah I'll be the king. I'll be up there with Elvis and Kenny. Just hope I don't the need bog soon.
And well done on following the club for 39 years or so. Me arl fella has followed them for 4 decades and then some what's your point?
Yes there is plenty of need for the lessons. It educates people who may not know our history. It also informs people like you of where we've come from and why the UEFA Cup/Europa League has a special place in the hearts of Liverpool Football Club fans. And I'm always happy to back my arguments up with facts from the past.
Who do I think I am? From now on I'll think I'm the king. Sure a few others will as well.
Simple truth is no Liverpool fan wants us to be in the Europa League because no Liverpool fan wants us to be fifth. We want to be first. However, this year the best we can now do is fifth so we're in the Europa League and the best we can do in that is to win it which Liverpool fans should want us to do. You've done nothing but slag it off and rubbish it as a competition and tried to defend yourself by saying you want better than that. We all do but we can't do it this year so shut the f**k up moaning about it. Instead focus on winning the League, Europea League, FA Cup and League Cup next year.
With regards to how long I have supported compared to you :
This is of no interest to me, I was just saying how long I have supported the club, itâs makes no difference to me how long you have. Indeed it doesnât make either more or less of a supporter. You think Iâm a glory hunter â by what definition? If you mean I chase glory with a glorious club then you are right, I care most about the EPL â I want that glory. I would of course still support no matter what league we are in & if say we got relegated then Iâd be chasing the glory of promotion. THAT DOESNT MEAN I DONT WANT BETTER â whatâs so hard to fathom? You suggest Iâm a tit for wanting the club to win the best things... brilliant that.......
Donât apologise then, didnât think you would.
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Deserving of a place at the top table â you say we are not then say we are the worldâs biggest club:
Which is it then Einstein, you canât have both. & I am not talking about the team! Again whatâs so hard to fathom? You say itâs about names? Well I guess it is, but the clubs you mention are not even worth mentioning in the same breath as us â totally different. The clubâs history, fan base & soul deserve it, demand it. Ok, we donât have a god given right, but when we arnt at it then questions are actually allowed to be asked. Donât tell me, you just follow blind in your own little bubble?
I only care when it comes to semi finals & finals? Where do you get this from? Why make things up. Iâm done with the glory hunter stuff you bleat on about, say what you like about it. You are making yourself look silly by lying & twisting things to suit your own needs for reasons only known to you. And I havenât said I would rather we lose anything, but I am not that fussed if the reserves or youth team loses in the same way I am about the first 11 as thatâs what we will be supporting in the Europa (donât tell me â that makes me a glory hunter as well... You also get like this about Liverpool under 11 ladies?)
Are you saying Liverpool football Club hasnât got the right to be in Europeâs to competition. Shame on you, what would Paisley, Shankly & Co think about that after all the hard work the put in to give us that right. You blart on about great men of the past & then dismiss what they have done be basically saying it means nothing today apart from press clippings.
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The king of supporters :
Are you saying Iâm not loyal, passionate & knowledgable with of course a hint of bias thrown in sometimes? Maybe not as much as you (certainly not as blind about facts btw) but for you to suggest that makes me a glory hunting âtitâ that isnât a supporter says more about you than me. Your certainly more Elvis than Kenny btw!
Good on your âarl fellaâ btw â I am happy for you & him, I covered the years thing earlier.
âWho do I think I am? From now on I'll think I'm the king. Sure a few others will as well.â
If you actually think this, then I feel sorry for you, it does explain alot though
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History of this club :
Donât need it from you, Iâve seen more history than you. Go read a book about it & then go back on the internet, after that you can come back & copy & paste!.....
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Simple truth (as you put it)
Fully agree with first part, then again you lie. When have I âslagged it offâ I have all along said I want better than that & that I donât want us to go all out for it at the expense of the EPL. This is because of the way I see LFC now, not the competition (threw the years) per say. I also doubt we will field a really strong team anyway â so what are you going to say to Kenny after that? Hypocrite you will be, no doubt. You will have some reason to back track. I havenât had to defend myself, just repeat what I have said & I have not moaned about it thank you. I have expressed a view, one you donât agree with (fair enough) all you have then done is moaned & groaned like a know it all old granny suggesting Iâm this & that.
Think we are done about this really arenât we. Tbh I canât believe you will read all of this, if you do you wonât digest, think & reply. You will just take & twist if it suits & make other stuff up.
Shame as I know we both just want to win the EPL â can we agree on that & move on?
âInstead focus on winning the League, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup next yearâ
Priceless â are they in order? Are you putting cups in an order!
. Itâs the EPL for me, thatâs the focus. Anything else is for the glory hunters!!!