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      PurpleMonkey
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6480: Dec 01, 2018 07:21:30 pm
      Fact; Fabinho was brought in to replace the outgoing Can.

      He was here to fill in the void that Can left, but take into account he is not a like for like and has has a different skill set. As mentioned, Keita  is more so the replacement for Can on paper.

      Fact; Klopp said he can play the 2, 6 and 8 but in your agenda chasing desire to see what you thought was going to happen actually come true, you ignore that.

      We get it, he can play 2, 6 and 8, but again, If you actually watched the player play before, you would know he is more suited as the deepest midfielder and can be considered a specialist rather than an 8/box-boxer , why is that so difficult to understand? Do you think we randomly assume he will take Hendo's position without watching him play previously?

      Imagine buying Dybala and arguing with people that he is a winger without watching his previous matches (Dybala is more a false 9/2nd forward if you didn't know!) after Klopp saying he can play an 8, 7, 10 or 9.

      Is it so wrong to think a player (from any league) we have watched can be better than our own and we can improve on him?

      He'll play more than one position, he'll rotate with our other midfielders, but first he needs to show Klopp he's up to the job, and actually better than Henderson in the role.

      Of course he can, but again, his skill sets are more suited to a 6 role, so one would assume he is here to take the 6 spot.

      Say we bought Jorginho instead of Fabinho, would you not assume he would  play the 6 role for us even if Klopp said he could play a sweeper, 6 or 8?

      So far he has failed to do that despite your insistence after pre-season (and what kind of idiot judges a player on pre-season games) that he would come in straight away and transform the role.

      Another lie, where did I judge him solely on pre-season games? Do you have proof? Just because you don't watch other matches (or even ours) doesn't mean I, or anyone else don't either. I guess people were stupid to think Robertson would be better than Moreno? Alisson than Karius, Salah than Mane etc etc.

      And to be fair to Fabinho, when he has come in, he has given us something different to Henderson. We have more grit in the middle and his possession play is better (imo ofc), so yeah, he has transformed the role and given us something new.

      Fabinho has it all to prove, both in training and in matches; it doesn't matter a f**k what he's done before, he needs to prove it all over again to his new employers, and again, so far he has failed.
      To say that a player doesn't need to prove himself at a new club is absolute horseshit.

      Of course he has it to prove, but why do you think Klopp bought Fabinho? Why that particular player when he could have gone for a more box-boxer (like Can) or a pass master? Do you not think Klopp knows what skill sets he brings to the table? Lol.

      And who exactly is saying he doesn't need to prove himself at a new club? Please point me to that direction.
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      Reply #6481: Dec 01, 2018 07:52:47 pm
      The question isn't the skill set (unless Klopp went in blind and just bought him?), Fabinho doesn't have to prove that, it is whether he can settle down in our system and the league, and there is no way better for him to settle by playing games.

      F***ing hell, you can't even keep your own lies straight.

      Fabinho, at a new club with a new manager needs to prove everything, but first you say he doesn't have to prove "his skill set" which is just another bullshit phrase, probably copied off Phil Neville, then you say "of course he has to prove himself".

      F**k off soft lad, I really can't be arsed with your bullshit anymore.
      PurpleMonkey
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      Reply #6482: Dec 01, 2018 08:17:48 pm
      F***ing hell, you can't even keep your own lies straight.

      Fabinho, at a new club with a new manager needs to prove everything, but first you say he doesn't have to prove "his skill set" which is just another bullshit phrase, probably copied off Phil Neville, then you say "of course he has to prove himself".

      F**k off soft lad, I really can't be arsed with your bullshit anymore.

      Why do you think managers buy certain players? There has to be something that peaked their interest, what could that be? Surely it has to be the skill set that the player acquires? Managers know what players bring to the table, so it's not about proving you have the skill set it is more about proving you are capable of adapting and understanding the system, tactics and league don't you think? Aquilani is a great example.

      And it's not bullshit, just your lack of understanding and unwillingness to accept other people's opinion.
      « Last Edit: Dec 01, 2018 08:22:27 pm by PurpleMonkey »
      Swab
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      Reply #6483: Dec 01, 2018 08:23:10 pm
      Why do you think managers buy certain players? There has to be something that peaked their interest, what could that be? Surely it has to be the skill set that the player acquires? Managers know what players bring to the table, so it's not about proving you have the skill set it is more about proving you are capable of adapting and understanding the system, tactics and league don't you think?

      It's not bullshit, just your lack of understanding and unwillingness to accept other people's opinion.

      Fella caught out by his own lies tries to say he wasn't caught out by his own lies.

      Typical internet bullshit artist.

      Stick to watching Phil Neville for your opinions fella.
      PurpleMonkey
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      Reply #6484: Dec 01, 2018 08:30:07 pm
      Fella caught out by his own lies tries to say he wasn't caught out by his owl lies.

      Typical internet bullshit artist.

      Stick to watching Phil Neville for your opinions fella.

      Nice come back ;D.  I gave a perfectly good reason, no lies, just your lack of understanding.

      And whilst we are talking about P.Neville, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't he know more than you? Isn't he better qualified? Isn't that what you say about Klopp and the reason why he is right and we're all wrong when disagreeing his decisions? So taking that into account, according to you, P.Neville is right, so what gives you the right to question him?! ;)
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      Reply #6485: Dec 01, 2018 10:32:13 pm
      Nice come back ;D.  I gave a perfectly good reason, no lies, just your lack of understanding.

      And whilst we are talking about P.Neville, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't he know more than you? Isn't he better qualified? Isn't that what you say about Klopp and the reason why he is right and we're all wrong when disagreeing his decisions? So taking that into account, according to you, P.Neville is right, so what gives you the right to question him?! ;)

      Spot on but apparently it's all lies only "female masterbation", aka Swab, knows the truth, he's the only one who is always right.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6486: Dec 01, 2018 11:44:25 pm
      See the Coven is in full cry tonight.
      Swab
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      Reply #6487: Dec 02, 2018 12:17:29 am
      See the Coven is in full cry tonight.

      Sad isn't it Walton.

      I'm over 60 and I've got more of a social life than this bunch of WUMs.

      They all message each other as well, like a little forum gang.

      Too bad no one takes the sad sacks seriously ;)
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      Reply #6488: Dec 02, 2018 12:22:41 am
      Nice come back ;D.  I gave a perfectly good reason, no lies, just your lack of understanding.

      And whilst we are talking about P.Neville, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't he know more than you? Isn't he better qualified? Isn't that what you say about Klopp and the reason why he is right and we're all wrong when disagreeing his decisions? So taking that into account, according to you, P.Neville is right, so what gives you the right to question him?! ;)

      His qualifications go as far as "understanding 8 a side"

      A UEFA B license.
      He's too f**king thick to pass any of the others.

      Raising Phil Neville as a fount of football knowledge; the arch repeater himself, and even his own team mates rip the piss out of him for it.  :lmao:

      And of course who can forget the WC classic, where he listened to the English Womens football player, then just repeated what she said as if he'd thought of it himself.

      Phil f**king Neville is being held up as someone "Qualified".
      That's f**king priceless.

      Anyone who has ever given even a passing thought to football, knows that Phil Neville is a joke.
      And you post up his video's, and pretend you know about football  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      That is truly hilarious.
      What a clipe.
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      Reply #6489: Dec 02, 2018 01:41:30 am
      His qualifications go as far as "understanding 8 a side"

      A UEFA B license.
      He's too f**king thick to pass any of the others.

      Raising Phil Neville as a fount of football knowledge; the arch repeater himself, and even his own team mates rip the piss out of him for it.  :lmao:

      And of course who can forget the WC classic, where he listened to the English Womens football player, then just repeated what she said as if he'd thought of it himself.

      Phil f**king Neville is being held up as someone "Qualified".
      That's f**king priceless.

      Anyone who has ever given even a passing thought to football, knows that Phil Neville is a joke.
      And you post up his video's, and pretend you know about football  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      That is truly hilarious.
      What a clipe.
      people don't need to have a pro license to make a good point, if so then we should shut the forum down.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6490: Dec 02, 2018 03:37:48 am
      If Henderson was playing at Leicester does anyone think there’d be a que of teams to buy him?
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      Reply #6491: Dec 02, 2018 03:41:45 am
      If Henderson was playing at Leicester does anyone think there’d be a que of teams to buy him?

      Are there a queue of teams trying to buy Hazard? What about Kante? Jorginho?
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      Reply #6492: Dec 02, 2018 04:17:17 am
      Are there a queue of teams trying to buy Hazard? What about Kante? Jorginho?

      Teams would jump at the opportunity to buy all 3. Jorginho was monitored by us, city, Chelsea, bunch few, infact he rejected man city to sign for chelsea.  Kante? There is a reason Chelsea gave him 300k per week deal.
      Hazard? His contract is up this year. You'll probably see a bunch of teams.

      And BTW, there is only a queue if a player's agent makes it known to the teams that he wishes to see better offers.
      « Last Edit: Dec 02, 2018 06:24:40 am by Gill95 »
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      Reply #6493: Dec 02, 2018 10:29:46 am
      Are there a queue of teams trying to buy Hazard? What about Kante? Jorginho?

      yes, yes, yes
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      Reply #6494: Dec 02, 2018 11:48:37 am

      Odd, I’ve not seen hide nor hair of a rumor that there is.
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      Reply #6495: Dec 02, 2018 12:14:49 pm
      Odd, I’ve not seen hide nor hair of a rumor that there is.

      This is getting silly now. Just because  Henderson doesn't have any buyer for him, that doesn't mean that other actual top players dont have any buyers for them. As I have mentioned in my above post. But hey, I haven't seen any rumors for Messi too.  :lmao:
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      Reply #6496: Dec 02, 2018 12:15:25 pm
      Odd, I’ve not seen hide nor hair of a rumor that there is.

      really

      Hazard has been constantly linked to Real Madrid. He's spoken about this himself: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1033635/Chelsea-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-transfer-news-rumours-gossip

      Jorginho has only just signed to Chelsea, so obviously it would be daft to expect many transfer rumours in less than 6 months. But before that...

      Guardiola himself admitted he tried to sign Jorginho: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/guardiola-it-wouldve-been-a-mistake-for-jorginho-to-join-man/15dfepfqwowu015xob1lvsqmuz
      Man Utd was rumoured to be interested too: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-jorginho-transfer-chelsea-14910466
      And of course us: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-face-prospect-battling-premier-14628450

      Chelsea has just given Kanté a new contract on £290k a week: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/kante-signs-new-record-290k-a-week-chelsea-deal/za9j7ihnxt7i14mwbqibg7ybg

      So obviously he won't be the subject of many rumours right now. But to deny that most top clubs would love to have him would be daft as well. As the link above about his renewal states: "His consistency and influence has seen a host of clubs show an interest in him, most notably Paris Saint-Germain"

      So there you go. Took me about 3 minutes to find this
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      Reply #6497: Dec 02, 2018 12:18:36 pm
      really

      Hazard has been constantly linked to Real Madrid. He's spoken about this himself: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1033635/Chelsea-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-transfer-news-rumours-gossip

      Jorginho has only just signed to Chelsea, so obviously it would be daft to expect many transfer rumours in less than 6 months. But before that...

      Guardiola himself admitted he tried to sign Jorginho: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/guardiola-it-wouldve-been-a-mistake-for-jorginho-to-join-man/15dfepfqwowu015xob1lvsqmuz
      Man Utd was rumoured to be interested too: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-jorginho-transfer-chelsea-14910466
      And of course us: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-face-prospect-battling-premier-14628450

      Chelsea has just given Kanté a new contract on £290k a week: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/kante-signs-new-record-290k-a-week-chelsea-deal/za9j7ihnxt7i14mwbqibg7ybg

      So obviously he won't be the subject of many rumours right now. But to deny that most top clubs would love to have him would be daft as well. As the link above about his renewal states: "His consistency and influence has seen a host of clubs show an interest in him, most notably Paris Saint-Germain"

      So there you go. Took me about 3 minutes to find this


      F***ing hell, I was doing the same too. Was about to post the links. As you say took a single Google search for this.  :D
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6498: Dec 02, 2018 12:25:49 pm
      really

      Hazard has been constantly linked to Real Madrid. He's spoken about this himself: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1033635/Chelsea-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-transfer-news-rumours-gossip

      Jorginho has only just signed to Chelsea, so obviously it would be daft to expect many transfer rumours in less than 6 months. But before that...

      Guardiola himself admitted he tried to sign Jorginho: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/guardiola-it-wouldve-been-a-mistake-for-jorginho-to-join-man/15dfepfqwowu015xob1lvsqmuz
      Man Utd was rumoured to be interested too: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-jorginho-transfer-chelsea-14910466
      And of course us: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-face-prospect-battling-premier-14628450

      Chelsea has just given Kanté a new contract on £290k a week: https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/kante-signs-new-record-290k-a-week-chelsea-deal/za9j7ihnxt7i14mwbqibg7ybg

      So obviously he won't be the subject of many rumours right now. But to deny that most top clubs would love to have him would be daft as well. As the link above about his renewal states: "His consistency and influence has seen a host of clubs show an interest in him, most notably Paris Saint-Germain"

      So there you go. Took me about 3 minutes to find this

      Well there you go, my mind is certainly changed. We should obviously get rid of Henderson. But I guess as he’s not in demand (since there aren’t any teams that want him) that won’t be an easy task. Such a conundrum we find ourselves in. I guess that must be why Klopp continues to not only play him but allow him to still be captain.
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      Reply #6499: Dec 02, 2018 12:36:32 pm
      Well there you go, my mind is certainly changed. We should obviously get rid of Henderson. But I guess as he’s not in demand (since there aren’t any teams that want him) that won’t be an easy task. Such a conundrum we find ourselves in. I guess that must be why Klopp continues to not only play him but allow him to still be captain.

      I wasn't trying to change your mind on Henderson, though ;D only on Hazard, Kanté and Jorginho.

      As for Hendo, I guess I can quote his favourite artist in all the history of recorded music to list the clubs with a stated interest in him:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rywUS-ohqeE

      :D

      I am avoiding discussing him though. This whole debate has become so boring.
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      Reply #6500: Dec 02, 2018 01:27:41 pm
      Even though Henderson doesn't have anybody interested in signing him right now, if he had 1 or 2 years left on his contract there would be a few bids offering a few bags of walkers crisps for him to sit on their bench! He could even eat those crisps whilst on the bench. Watch out Gary Linekar.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6501: Dec 02, 2018 01:34:50 pm
      Guys, he's not playing today.

      Rest easy and have a f**king day off.

      He'll be back to piss you all off next week.
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      Reply #6502: Dec 02, 2018 01:42:14 pm
      Guys, he's not playing today.

      Rest easy and have a f**king day off.

      He'll be back to piss you all off next week.

      It's not even that mate.
      They just troll the f**k out of this thread to try and shut down any other voices because they think this means they've "won".
      Quite what they think they "win" is beyond me, because no one really gives a f**k what they think, they just get bored reading the same sh*t over and over.

      I bet next week it will be "if only Henderson could perform like (whoever plays 6) we'd win the league".
      Then when Henderson comes back for the next match they'll start in the Klopp thread saying how stupid he is for picking Henderson.
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      Reply #6503: Dec 02, 2018 02:02:47 pm
      Well judging by the amount of posting you do it doesn't seem you have a particularly active social life, by the way who is it that you think it messaging who?
      You do seem like a very angry person though, life not been too good for you or something, bit of a chip on the shoulder perhaps?
      :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #6504: Dec 02, 2018 02:05:25 pm
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      Reply #6505: Dec 02, 2018 02:10:11 pm
      Guys, he's not playing today.

      Rest easy and have a f**king day off.

      He'll be back to piss you all off next week.

      Even if he isn't playing today people will bring it back to him , win lose or draw. Getting bored shitless by the whole thing to be honest whatever the point of view
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      Reply #6506: Dec 02, 2018 02:19:09 pm
      Even if he isn't playing today people will bring it back to him , win lose or draw. Getting bored shitless by the whole thing to be honest whatever the point of view

      The problem is, once they've driven everyone away from this thread, they'll just start on another one, which we can already see happening in The Kop.

      They're not interested in football, they're only interested in trolling.
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      Reply #6507: Dec 02, 2018 02:50:28 pm
      The problem is, once they've driven everyone away from this thread, they'll just start on another one, which we can already see happening in The Kop.

      They're not interested in football, they're only interested in trolling.


      the will have Klopp on their radar soon if he doesn't win the treble
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      Reply #6508: Dec 02, 2018 03:04:16 pm
      The problem is, once they've driven everyone away from this thread, they'll just start on another one, which we can already see happening in The Kop.

      They're not interested in football, they're only interested in trolling.


      In all fairness you are the one who keeps going on about Henderson being the ultimate DM comparing him to Masch, Didi etc.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6509: Dec 02, 2018 03:50:47 pm
      Come lads fair enough have a heated conversation about Hendo but it's getting a bit too personal now.

      Half of this page is nothing but insults. Feels like you've landed in an off topic thread somewhere else in the forum.

      I'm not a mod or anything but you need to sort it out or get out the thread. If you don't like eachother just ignore eachother.

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