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      Jordan Henderson (Liverpool -> Al-Ettifaq (5 months) -> Ajax)

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      Swab
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6578: Dec 13, 2018 06:11:27 pm
      I'm not sure a specialist would fit in with the changes in shape seen this season.
      There is a very solid base there in Henderson and Wijnaldum and obviously one of them will need to make way if Fabinho is to feature more heavily. Then allowing the likes of Keita and Shaqiri to shift between wide defensive positions and more central attacking mid options. That flexibility comes from the solid pairing behind them. To a casual observer that may look more like a 4231 or 433 but the flexibility comes from a 4222. It depends on whether the forward is dropping wide or the AM.

      This is what I mean about specialists gradually falling out of fashion.
      There will, of course, always be a place for specialists, but teams like Klopps will favour them less.

      I think as well that there is far too much emphasis placed on formations and systems, and although discussing a basic shape is interesting, it seems far too many are fixated on the initial lineup, which they seem to think will completely dictate how we play.
      Now there's no doubt in my mind that sometimes a shape dictates how we play, but it is sometimes fixated on to the detriment of understanding how we really play.
      For instance, you'll often see our midfield (in defensive mode) play on a diagonal line, rather than flat, to try and push the play down a path we want it to go, or see what looks like a small cluster of players (but is really a double defensive line).
      A lot of football at the highest level seems to me to be about forcing opponents to do things they don't want to do, rather than actually dictating the play in a more "traditional way".
      It's all very interesting, and I have a feeling Klopp has a surprise or 2 up his sleeves for the mancs, come sunday.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6579: Dec 15, 2018 01:34:55 pm
      Henderson's almost got 300 appearances for Liverpool. Amazing achievement. I've not always been his biggest fan, but it deserves a mention. Good on him.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6580: Dec 15, 2018 01:39:52 pm
      Henderson's almost got 300 appearances for Liverpool. Amazing achievement. I've not always been his biggest fan, but it deserves a mention. Good on him.

      What exactly is the point you are trying to prove ?
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6581: Dec 15, 2018 01:48:32 pm
      What exactly is the point you are trying to prove ?

      Take your pick.
      He actually deleted his first post, then re-posted the same thing, just to move to the top of the post list to distract from DLS's thread.

      Bizarre behaviour.
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      Reply #6582: Dec 15, 2018 01:56:40 pm
      Take your pick.
      He actually deleted his first post, then re-posted the same thing, just to move to the top of the post list to distract from DLS's thread.

      Bizarre behaviour.
      i thought I posted in the wrong thread originally.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6583: Dec 15, 2018 01:56:52 pm
      What exactly is the point you are trying to prove ?
      no point.
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      Reply #6584: Dec 15, 2018 01:57:19 pm
      Take your pick.
      He actually deleted his first post, then re-posted the same thing, just to move to the top of the post list to distract from DLS's thread.

      Bizarre behaviour.

      Noticed he had deleted it and re-posted it, strange fella.
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      Reply #6585: Dec 15, 2018 02:05:35 pm
      Noticed he had deleted it and re-posted it, strange fella.
      i thought I posted in the incorrect thread initially.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6586: Dec 21, 2018 09:58:28 am
      could be Jordans 300th game tonight and just listening to big Jan praising him ...what does he know ?.
      Apparently Jan says what players do without the ball can be just as important as what they do with it but some fans only comment on what players do with the ball. He also said he is perfect for Jürgen's tactics what a plonker Jan is he needs to get on this forum and on this thread to be educated about a football players worth.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6587: Dec 21, 2018 10:17:20 am
      could be Jordans 300th game tonight and just listening to big Jan praising him ...what does he know ?.
      Apparently Jan says what players do without the ball can be just as important as what they do with it but some fans only comment on what players do with the ball. He also said he is perfect for Jürgen's tactics what a plonker Jan is he needs to get on this forum and on this thread to be educated about a football players worth.
      I think Jordinho will make a camio, but I think Fabinho will get the nod to start today.
      « Last Edit: Dec 21, 2018 10:42:05 am by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6588: Dec 21, 2018 02:38:45 pm
      I would let him get his 300th game at home to Newcastle.  Fabinho to start
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      Reply #6589: Dec 21, 2018 07:37:02 pm
      I would let him get his 300th game at home to Newcastle.  Fabinho to start

      fortunately our manager picks the team on merit not on emotion
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6590: Dec 21, 2018 10:34:52 pm
      Quality performance tonight much braver on the ball and much more positive
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6591: Dec 21, 2018 10:36:23 pm
      Quality performance tonight much braver on the ball and much more positive

      It’s helped him by having Kieta & Fabinho on the field, it allows him much more freedom..
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6592: Dec 21, 2018 10:40:02 pm
      Thought he was best of the 3 tonight over the 90 minutes.

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      Reply #6593: Dec 21, 2018 10:47:58 pm
      Did well, thought him and Fab worked hard and deserved to be on the winning side.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6594: Dec 21, 2018 10:47:58 pm
      Thought he was best of the 3 tonight over the 90 minutes.



      Second half I would say he was but first I would go for Fab. Not saying Hendo didn’t play well in the first half, because he did, just for me Fab edged that half.

      But none the less, they were both very good and I thought they worked really well together. Don’t think we’ve really seen the 2 of them together properly until now.
      This is why Hendo frustrates me, because he can put in a performance like this against a good opponent and in tough conditions but can be off the pace in the next game. He’s got the ability, it’s just getting the consistency out of him.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6595: Dec 21, 2018 10:49:50 pm
      Well played hendo. See guys, it's not difficult
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6596: Dec 21, 2018 10:51:56 pm
      What stood out was his forward passes more urgency and delivered quickly and precisely think he knows he has to step it up if he wants regular game time
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6597: Dec 21, 2018 10:55:57 pm
      Second half I would say he was but first I would go for Fab. Not saying Hendo didn’t play well in the first half, because he did, just for me Fab edged that half.

      But none the less, they were both very good and I thought they worked really well together. Don’t think we’ve really seen the 2 of them together properly until now.
      This is why Hendo frustrates me, because he can put in a performance like this against a good opponent and in tough conditions but can be off the pace in the next game. He’s got the ability, it’s just getting the consistency out of him.

      That’s why I said over the 90 mate.

      Thought he was most consistent.

      Fab’s assist was great but I thought he popped a few dodgy passes off too in first half.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6598: Dec 21, 2018 11:59:55 pm
      Like Hendo and Fab as the protectors  of the back 4 then any one of Gini/Shaq/Milner or Ox in front of them...mouth watering.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #6599: Dec 22, 2018 09:23:09 am
      Henderson provided cover for both Naby and Fab as well as both Wing backs and as a shield to the CB's that is quite a work load and he still had time to put in some really good passes.
      Naby seemed to get beaten up by the big boys quite a bit and fab was a bit sloppy in the first half but we do have a cracking midfield 4 or 5 including Milner. We are a very solid team.
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      Reply #6600: Dec 22, 2018 12:27:55 pm
      It's nice to see Klopp play a proper double pivot, with Fabinho holding, and Henderson pushing on, with the 2 players swapping roles at times.

      The energy he brings further up the pitch is immense, and he covers very well, acting as a screen in front of the DM and supporting the fullbacks.
      It was noticeable that our FB's didn't get forwards as much as they usually do, but I think this was tactical as wolves like to attack the flanks, so we changed things a bit and our attack focus was more central.

      My MOTM, he was excellent.

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