Who will the next England manager be?

I know some of you aren't interested but it will be intriguing to see who the FA plump for when Fabio Capello leaves the job next summer. Harry Redknapp is considered by many to be the favourite but that seems to send a shiver down the spines of many supporters. His appointment to me would be highly unambitious and would resort back to the tired failed test of getting a guv'nor sort of manager in. Perhaps in the 70s but not today. If an English candidate had to be chanced upon I feel it would be worth giving Gareth Southgate the chance. Did a good job at Middlesborough with a pretty average squad until the inevitable happened and they were relegated. Still despite being in a position to promote them straight back to the Premier League he was bafflingly sacked. Rafa Benitez stated out of the English manager's in the football league Southgate seems to have great intelligence about the game.

So who else could be in contention? Well the rest are foreigners surely. Arsene Wenger? Luis Felipe Scolari perhaps? Mourinho as ever will be a name in contention. And what about Benitez himself? For me the best options are as ever foreign. I say balls to whatever those Fleet Street journo's say with their pinch of xenophobia and pro English bias about the next manager "having to be English". As if England are going to produce a world class manager any time soon in a country with a truly awful coaching structure.

So who do you think should succeed Capello as manager of the England football team?

I'm not English, but it's an interesting discussion. I never fully understood Capello's appointment, and think he's done a horrible job. I am aware that there seems to be a lack of good English managers, so I wouldn't be surprised if you signed a foreign one again. Just learn from the Capello appointment. He was inexperienced at managing a national side, and has never accomplished anything in that discipline. So paying that much for him is just crazy. Managing a club or a country are two different disciplines. And for that kind of money the least you could expect is someone with experience in that discipline. Being a good people manager is probably the most important attribute for a national side manager. With the exception of the few weeks before a major tournament they hardly train or play together. Yet in some way the manager needs to keep all the egos happy, and make them perform.

Capello will step down after Euro 2012 then? There's probably some other managers who step down from managing their national side then too. One of them that I know of, and I think would be interested in the job is Bert van Marwijk. I think he's been brilliant as a national side manager. He's calm and transparant. And while it's not always nice to watch, he plays his team to their strengths. Also helps that he's a big fan of Liverpool. He has actually said he'd love to manage our club too.

Harry ' It's not my fault the club went bust ' Redknapp

I'm not English, but it's an interesting discussion. I never fully understood Capello's appointment, and think he's done a horrible job. I am aware that there seems to be a lack of good English managers, so I wouldn't be surprised if you signed a foreign one again. Just learn from the Capello appointment. He was inexperienced at managing a national side, and has never accomplished anything in that discipline. So paying that much for him is just crazy. Managing a club or a country are two different disciplines. And for that kind of money the least you could expect is someone with experience in that discipline. Being a good people manager is probably the most important attribute for a national side manager. With the exception of the few weeks before a major tournament they hardly train or play together. Yet in some way the manager needs to keep all the egos happy, and make them perform.

Capello will step down after Euro 2012 then? There's probably some other managers who step down from managing their national side then too. One of them that I know of, and I think would be interested in the job is Bert van Marwijk. I think he's been brilliant as a national side manager. He's calm and transparant. And while it's not always nice to watch, he plays his team to their strengths. Also helps that he's a big fan of Liverpool. He has actually said he'd love to manage our club too.

Bert Van Marwijk is an interesting suggestion. Netherlands were different in South Africa last year but it worked. Beating Brazil was a high point I remember well. I was very impressed with that performance. I've always been a massive fan of Fabio Capello though and despite it being true that he struggled badly in South Africa and made some bad decisions a mass amount of the blame has to lay on the players. For those players last year to not show even a hint of living the dream and wanting to seize the opportunity in South Africa it was truly rank to watch. They were the joke of the tournament.


*just to note I'm not English. I am Scottish but interested to see what direction England will take from next year onwards.

Woy 

RAFA ? with the cut back on foreign players in each team he'd be able to pick the English LFC players and pretend he's back at Anfield !

Whoever they choose, he will have easier job winning something with Wilshere who is an absolute gem of a player. A kind of player which England badly needed, and now they have him. My bet is on Redknapp, but Rafa wouldn't be so surprising choice either.

With the FA struggling to make the money to make their stadium payments, a deal has been struck with Simon Cowell to host the XI factor, with viewers voting for which players should not only be in the squad, but start. Viewers in Scotland are already looking forward to this.  

Whoever they choose, he will have easier job winning something with Wilshere who is an absolute gem of a player. A kind of player which England badly needed, and now they have him. My bet is on Redknapp, but Rafa wouldn't be so surprising choice either.

Agree. He's a phenomenal player but forgive me for saying this but if the rest of the future of English football is the likes of Kyle Walker then dear god!

Can't remember the last time a Tottenham player contributed something noteworthy to the England squad despite filling the team up for most of the last decade. The solution to England's success? Don't pick Spud players. Stay well away from Harry 'Cor blimey lump it up to the big lad up front while I work out how I pay, love.....rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit" Redknapp.

Southgate, really? Don't think he did a good job there, he got a team that was UEFA Cup finalist.

Southgate, really? Don't think he did a good job there, he got a team that was UEFA Cup finalist.

UEFA Cup finalists but they finished 14th that same year. If they had kept hold of him Middlesbrough could really have been back up last year.

Reckon if the FA are going to want an English manager it'll be either Harry Redknapp or Sam Allardyce.

Project Owl won't even get a mention!

Boro didn't have enough depth in the squad to fight in both fronts, which help to explain why they finished 14th, as before that they finished 7th, 11th, 11th and 12th. All of this under Steve McClaren, a manager who failed as England manager. Despite their weaknesses, they were a established EPL side who just had one of the best moments of their history.  I wouldn't call Southgate's work there a good one and personally think it wouldn't make any sense to have him as England manager.

Don't really care, but the FA have said he'll be English and there are few good candidates, so I doubt the national team will be winning anything any time soon. 

Bert Van Marwijk is an interesting suggestion. Netherlands were different in South Africa last year but it worked. Beating Brazil was a high point I remember well. I was very impressed with that performance. I've always been a massive fan of Fabio Capello though and despite it being true that he struggled badly in South Africa and made some bad decisions a mass amount of the blame has to lay on the players. For those players last year to not show even a hint of living the dream and wanting to seize the opportunity in South Africa it was truly rank to watch. They were the joke of the tournament.


*just to note I'm not English. I am Scottish but interested to see what direction England will take from next year onwards.

I have alot of respect for Capello and his accomplishments. I just think this is seperate from that. Good club managers don't always make good national team managers, and vice versa. Good example: Joachim Low. His club manager career was going drown the drain before he joined Germany as an assistant. Which also brings me to a criticism of the FA. Why aren't Capello's assistants English? Where's the continuity in that? You hire someone like Capello because apparently English managers aren't good enough, I'd think you'd put some English talented assistants beside him so they could actually improve and learn from him. But in the end, all that matters is he didn't make the team perform as well as he could have.

Boro didn't have enough depth in the squad to fight in both fronts, which help to explain why they finished 14th, as before that they finished 7th, 11th, 11th and 12th. All of this under Steve McClaren, a manager who failed as England manager. Despite their weaknesses, they were a established EPL side who just had one of the best moments of their history.  I wouldn't call Southgate's work there a good one and personally think it wouldn't make any sense to have him as England manager.

McClaren had the pleasures of some really good players back then. Zenden, Juninho, Southgate himself amongst others. Southgate never had the opportunity to have players like those and largely had to rely on the youth at Boro.

Don't really care, but the FA have said he'll be English and there are few good candidates, so I doubt the national team will be winning anything any time soon. 

I don't understand this cycle the FA seem to get into. They hire a foreign manager and don't win anything, then the next one must be English. He fails as well so they look abroad again and now that Capello is getting criticised in the press they seem to have to go English again.

Surely when they broke with tradition and hired Sven as the first foreign manager then they should always be looking for the best man available if and when the position needs to be filled.

I don't understand this cycle the FA seem to get into. They hire a foreign manager and don't win anything, then the next one must be English. He fails as well so they look abroad again and now that Capello is getting criticised in the press they seem to have to go English again.

Surely when they broke with tradition and hired Sven as the first foreign manager then they should always be looking for the best man available if and when the position needs to be filled.

Exactly. The fact that McClaren failed so miserably is a warning to anyone spouting the 'must be English' crap.

Paul Merson.

At least he'd be good for a laugh - as in laughing at the stupid tw*t.

Paul Merson.

At least he'd be good for a laugh - as in laughing at the stupid tw*t.

I love the idea so much I'll give you a +!

God I would love to see us laugh at him like retarded hyena's for a change!

I think Arry is the man the FA will look at.

I don't understand this cycle the FA seem to get into. They hire a foreign manager and don't win anything, then the next one must be English. He fails as well so they look abroad again and now that Capello is getting criticised in the press they seem to have to go English again.

Surely when they broke with tradition and hired Sven as the first foreign manager then they should always be looking for the best man available if and when the position needs to be filled.

Totally agree, so so predictable.  I think Gerrard just retire from international football after the Euro's as their isn't going to be no crumbs for him.  We will have another foreign manager Euro 16 for definite.   

Woy Hodgson, he will lead WBA to a top half finish, and the F.A will think his the next big thing since slice bread, then we won't qualify for the world cup, he gets fired, and it happens all over again.

Big Sam, surely.

It's part of his destiny.

West Ham > England > Real Madrid.

Woy Hodgson, he will lead WBA to a top half finish, and the F.A will think his the next big thing since slice bread, then we won't qualify for the world cup, he gets fired, and it happens all over again.

Epidemics of face-rubbing will be breaking out all over the country...

Andy Townsend. It's clear from his work on ITV that he knows everything there is to know about football.

Andy Townsend. It's clear from his work on ITV that he knows everything there is to know about football.

Or perhaps Gary Neville. He is more or less the same over on SKY.

Woy 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/11/roy-hodgson-england-west-brom

Woy may want it but it's got 'arry written all over it. Not sure how he'll manage a squad where he can't wheel and deal though.

Roy, really really wants the job.  Is it any coincidence his contract at West Brom is due to end next summer?  I don't think so.  

The other English candidate is obviously Redknapp.  I can see Spurs not getting top four, fans turning against him, so he'll be off in the summer if not before.

I'm not keen on either, then again, my interest in internationals has waned.  Very much a club before country person these days.

The FA seem confused, some say the next manager will definitely be English, others in the FA, say not necessarily.  What they could do is try to implement a philosophy in the England set up, so when one coach leaves the other gets promoted and a new one comes in to learn the ropes - like France did during their glory years through the late 90's into the 00's.  Then you could have someone working in the background to draw up the tactical blueprint - a bit like Houllier did for France.  You might then have names like Shearer, Southgate, Pearce etc in the frame or at least in the set up.

Having said all that, get Keegan back  

I have alot of respect for Capello and his accomplishments. I just think this is seperate from that. Good club managers don't always make good national team managers, and vice versa. Good example: Joachim Low. His club manager career was going drown the drain before he joined Germany as an assistant. Which also brings me to a criticism of the FA. Why aren't Capello's assistants English? Where's the continuity in that? You hire someone like Capello because apparently English managers aren't good enough, I'd think you'd put some English talented assistants beside him so they could actually improve and learn from him. But in the end, all that matters is he didn't make the team perform as well as he could have.

Stuart Pearce is seen as one of his assistants as well as being U-21 manager!

Capello isn't even that good a manager, got completely out-thought by Rafa in 2005 and a combination of a very-ill Houllier/and Phil Thompson back in 2002 and 2001 as well!!

Andy Townsend. It's clear from his work on ITV that he knows everything there is to know about football.

But can he bring his tactics truck?

If arry gets the job will there be someone there constantly telling him "I know Liverpool are after him, but he's not English".

Surely Redknapp or Hodgson. England would do better with a manager who won't play a flat 4-4-2/4-4-1-1, however.

Mike Bassett Half time teamtalk

Saw this on the Mirror sport website.

Ha Ha Ha

It would be F***ing hilarious.

Saw this on the Mirror sport website.

Can you try and elaborate a bit when you start a thread mate?

Saw this on the Mirror sport website.

You should be banned for mentioning his name. 

Anyway, Project Owl has been taking a kicking from us Scouse, Not English types in this thread along with Fat Sam and Harry The Tax

http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=40213.30

cj, when you post a news topic, you should do it like this - ask Mac_Red he's got the most practice

Roy Hodgson emerging as candidate for England job

Roy Hodgson’s stock is rising at the FA as they prepare for life without Fabio Capello after Euro 2012.

There has been a growing belief inside football’s ruling body that there should be a move back to an English boss when the job becomes available. At the moment Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is widely acknowledged as the people’s choice to succeed Capello.

In fact, Redknapp is the favourite with all the bookies quoting odds on the FA’s line of succession.

But Sunday Mirror sport can reveal that West Brom manager Hodgson is gaining credibility within FA circles as the heir apparent to Capello’s throne.


A four man short-list is emerging featuring Hodgson, Redknapp, Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho and Stuart Pearce, currently in charge of the England Under-21 team.

Over the past couple of years Hodgson’s name has often been mentioned as a potential candidate for the England job without him ever gaining a real upsurge of support. That appears to be changing now.

Hodgson’s successful time at Fulham, allied to his past experience as an international manager with Switzerland, Finland and the UAE, made him a genuine contender.

In fact, at one point he was quoted by bookies as evens favourite to eventually land the England job.

But in the summer of 2010 he joined Liverpool in a move that went badly wrong for both parties. The political and ownership rows engulfing Anfield undermined the new manager.

Hodgson appeared to struggle to develop a real working rapport with the Anfield staff. And while his transfer resources were limited the impact of his signings was poor.

After barely six months in the Anfield job he left with the club floundering. And yet, by guiding West Brom impressively out of the relegation zone last spring Hodgson again proved his managerial credentials.

In recent discussions Hodgson is being cited as a likely front-runner when the task of naming Capello’s successor comes around.

Even though the FA have declared a preference to appoint a British boss next the FA are considering Mourinho as the outstanding international alternative. The controversial former Chelsea boss has been sounded out in the past but always maintained he would only manage one international team - his native Portugal.

Stuart Pearce, the Under-21 coach, is also likely to be interviewed for the post but is widely perceived to be the outsider for the job. However, FA sources believe that in terms of continuity Pearce must be considered for the job.

Paddy Power odds on next permanent England manager:

Harry Redknapp 6-5

Roy Hodgson 9-1

Jose Mourinho 12-1

Stuart Pearce 9-1

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/England-manager-Fabio-Capello-could-be-succeeded-by-Roy-Hodgson-of-West-Bromwich-Albion-article787901.html#ixzz1VfHKoANA

F**k me they wouldn't would they

They'd be mad not to hire him. He's got 36 years experience.

They should sign him now, who's not a fan of the 8-1-1 formation?

Before the match on ESPN yesterday the presenter introduced him as 'the vastly experienced manager roy hodgson'.

Experience doesn't necessarily make you good, it just makes you experienced.

F**k England he is the perfect replacement for Utd when Ferguson goes