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      Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough

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      andylfcynwa
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #184: Feb 09, 2012 09:34:53 am
      The truth will come out but i feel it will keep getting delayed till all those accountable are either too ill or senile to face the music , hence we keep hearing how frail and ill old c**t face is , she wasnt too ill to pocket over half a million of our hard earned in the last two and a half years ,they led us a dance back then and they are continuing to do it , any one who has read the facts clearly knows the basics of what happened yet they still refuse to acknowledge it , tells you all you want to know about this stinking corrupt country.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #185: Feb 22, 2012 02:21:45 pm
      bbc news

                                      PC's 'Hillsborough Notes Altered'


                            A former policewoman has claimed she was coerced into changing her evidence about the  Hillsborough
                            disaster.
                            Ex special constable Debra Martin said she was visited by two officers and pressured into changing her
                            evidence about the tragedy which claimed 96 lives.
                            Ms Martin who was on duty in the ground at the time in 1989 said her evidence related to the death of
                            Kevin Williams 15, at Sheffield Wednesday's ground.
                            South Yorkshire Police said the claim was not newand refused to comment.

                                             http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-17126678                                                 
                                                 
      Dannylfc
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #186: Feb 22, 2012 03:40:02 pm
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #187: Feb 22, 2012 04:20:59 pm
      No wonder South Yorkshire Police  did notwant to comment on the insitutionalised corruption which is alive and as cancerous as it ever was in their force. 
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #188: Feb 22, 2012 08:50:29 pm
      Attorney General Hints at Fresh Inquest for Kevin Williams

      Attorney General Dominic Grieve hints he will make application for fresh inquest into the Hillsborough death of Liverpool FC fan Kevin Williams



      Hillsborough tribute on the Kop
      THE Attorney General yesterday dropped a clear hint that he WILL make an application for a fresh inquest into the death of a teenage boy at Hillsborough.

      Answering a long-awaited Commons debate, Dominic Grieve said he expected the Hillsborough Panel to unearth further evidence that could tip the balance in the case of 15-year-old Kevin Williams, from Formby.

      Mr Grieve told MPs - and Anne Williams, Kevin's mum, who was watching from the gallery - that no decision could be made until the Panel reported, sometime in the summer.
      Anne Williams

      But, referring to its work, following the release of all documents relating to the 1989 tragedy, he said: "There will be an opportunity for a more informed examination of the evidence."

      And, asked about the anger surrounding the 3.15pm "cut-off point" imposed by the 1991 inquest, Mr Grieve added: "I fully understand the force that lies behind the argument that is being put forward."

      It is up to the Attorney General to decide whether to ask the High Court to quash the 1991 inquest, if that is "necessary or desirable in the interests of justice".

      Three previous applications have been rejected, despite Anne's insistence that her son was still alive at 4pm and that his injuries do not fit with the official verdict that victims died of traumatic asphyxia.

      Earlier, the hugely emotional debate heard heartbreaking evidence that Kevin's life could have been saved - and of the alleged cover-up that followed.

      Stephen Mosley, the Conservative MP for the City of Chester, where Anne now lives, urged Mr Grieve to recognise that the 1991 inquest was simply "wrong".

      Mr Mosley described how - as late as 3.40pm - Special WPC Debra Martin "found Kevin's pulse and helped take him into the gym".

      And he added: "After conducting heart massage and resuscitation, Kevin's ribs began to move and he stirred from unconsciousness. Thinking that she had revived Kevin, Ms Martin picked him up in her arms.
      Kevin Williams

      "Kevin opened his eyes and he spoke the word "Mum" before he slumped back and died at just before 4pm."

      Mr Mosley said Ms Martin had protested she was "bullied by senior police officers" into stating that Kevin was dead when she treated him - also recounting medical evidence that oxygen could have saved his life.

      Other MPs were just as critical. Bill Esterson (Lab; Sefton Central), said: "The suspicion, from families, friends and supporters, is that the 3.15 cut-off is a convenient way of avoiding evidence that lives could have been saved if ambulances had been allowed on the pitch."

      And Steve Rotheram (Lab; Liverpool Walton) described the 3.15pm issue as a "get out of jail free card" for the authorities, adding: "How wrong they are. They could, and should, have saved Kevin Williams.

      "Has there ever been a national tragedy when no-one at all has been held to account?"

      The two-and-a-half hour debate was triggered by the collection of more than 118,000 signatures on an e-petition launched by Anne Williams.

      Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/02/22/attorney-general-dominic-grieve-hints-he-will-make-application-for-fresh-inquest-into-the-hillsborough-death-of-liverpool-fc-fan-kevin-williams-100252-30386030/2/#ixzz1n94OkVVU
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #189: Feb 22, 2012 09:54:26 pm
      bbc news

                                      PC's 'Hillsborough Notes Altered'


                            A former policewoman has claimed she was coerced into changing her evidence about the  Hillsborough
                            disaster.
                            Ex special constable Debra Martin said she was visited by two officers and pressured into changing her
                            evidence about the tragedy which claimed 96 lives.
                            Ms Martin who was on duty in the ground at the time in 1989 said her evidence related to the death of
                            Kevin Williams 15, at Sheffield Wednesday's ground.
                            South Yorkshire Police said the claim was not newand refused to comment.

                                             http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-17126678                                                 
                                                 

      How does this not get more coverage, this has only been covered in the regional news section. It's a major national scandal FFS.
      stuey
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #190: Feb 22, 2012 10:25:26 pm
      How does this not get more coverage, this has only been covered in the regional news section. It's a major national scandal FFS.
      The sh*t is threatening to hit the fan big time and a re-examination of all the disinformation surrounding this particular tragedy will ensue, the Attornet General hinting at a fresh inquest could open the floodgates.
      I urge you to play the link below posted by Dannylfc, the revelations in the debate regarding the death of Kevin Williams are horrific and point directly to established corruption within the South Yorkshire Police force.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #191: Feb 23, 2012 09:02:22 pm
      The sh*t is threatening to hit the fan big time and a re-examination of all the disinformation surrounding this particular tragedy will ensue, the Attornet General hinting at a fresh inquest could open the floodgates.
      I urge you to play the link below posted by Dannylfc, the revelations in the debate regarding the death of Kevin Williams are horrific and point directly to established corruption within the South Yorkshire Police force.
      It's shocking mate, as you say the politicians have finally started to take an interest in it. Just find it remarkable that the media does not report what is clearly a major cover up by the police.
      dunlop liddell shankly
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #192: Mar 15, 2012 06:37:46 pm
      The release of the files has been put back to Autumn according to the ECHO as opposed to the spring.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #193: Jun 13, 2012 08:07:37 pm
      The release of the files has been put back to Autumn according to the ECHO as opposed to the spring.

      Just popped back to this as it's the middle of June, and I thought the files were to be released very soon.

      Obviously Thatcher was got a second wind, thus the delay.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #194: Jun 13, 2012 08:14:08 pm
      Just popped back to this as it's the middle of June, and I thought the files were to be released very soon.

      Obviously Thatcher was got a second wind, thus the delay.

      Euthanasia, perfect.

      Also, I'm available with my euthansia lump hammer.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #195: Jun 20, 2012 10:36:58 am
      Hillsborough papers release date set
      A date has been announced for secret government and police documents on the Hillsborough disaster to be released to the families of those who died.

      The Hillsborough Independent Panel, which has examined thousands of papers, is to release them on 12 September.

      Ninety-six Liverpool football fans died after a crush on overcrowded terraces in Sheffield in April 1989.

      An official inquiry found the main cause was a failure in crowd control by South Yorkshire Police.

      In a statement announcing the release date, the panel said it hoped it would "give the bereaved families sufficient time to prepare for the disclosure".

      "One of the panel's central objectives has been consultation with the bereaved families," it said. "In due course the panel will contact each family to explain details of the disclosure arrangements."

      More than 400,000 pages of documents from more than 80 organisations had been analysed by the panel, it said.

      After the release to relatives of the victims, the papers will later be disclosed to the wider public.

      The panel will also deliver a report "explaining how the disclosed documents add to public understanding" of the disaster.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18518407


      Better late than never, i suppose. Hopefully, finally, we'll be able to get to the bottom of this and the families get the justice they deserve.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #196: Jun 20, 2012 11:16:35 am
      About bloody time, now let's get justice done.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #197: Jun 20, 2012 11:26:13 am
      Well said Gareth Mate !
      Any chance of the disclosure date been incorporated into the thread title in order to stop everybody asking when it is ?
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #198: Jun 20, 2012 01:01:52 pm
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      Hillsborough panel announces they will release all documents on 12 September. Revelations will be "immense" says one well-placed source

      Gunna be a few Tories squirming in their seats over this, one would imagine.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #199: Jun 20, 2012 01:11:03 pm
      I just hope Thatcher stays alive long enough to be condemned for her (and HER police force's) actions.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #200: Jun 20, 2012 03:27:07 pm
      Guaranteed the powers that be will twist the major points to suit their agenda - just like the leaked info about Merseyside Police last time.

      Nailed on.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #201: Jun 20, 2012 03:36:16 pm
      I just hope Thatcher stays alive long enough to be condemned for her (and HER police force's) actions.

      Another nailed on happening, the bi*ch will shortly be dead.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #202: Jun 20, 2012 05:54:45 pm
      It's taken a very long time, but hopefully it's a step in the right direction for the families. Let's just hope the full and complete truth, one way or the other, comes out.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #203: Jul 03, 2012 02:26:21 pm
      Hillsborough Independent Panel's disaster disclosure will take place at Liverpool's Anglican Cathedral.

      The highly-anticipated release of the hidden documents is set to happen in the famed Gothic building, it was announced today.

      The Right Rev James Jones, Bishop of Liverpool, said: “I can confirm that the disclosure on September 12 will take place at the Liverpool Anglican Cathedral.”

      Hundreds of thousands of papers will be thrust into the public domain in two-and-a-half months’ time which families of those killed in Sheffield hope will give new answers about the tragedy 23 years ago.

      A report from the panel explaining the most important findings of its scrutiny will be released alongside the documents.

      Files from as many as 80 different organisations will be revealed for the first time in the autumn.

      But those from the police forces, ambulance service and the government’s Cabinet office are expected to be of most interest to relatives who lost loved ones and Reds supporters the world over.

      The independent Hillsborough panel, led by the Bishop of Liverpool, are currently contacting all families of the victims to inform them how the disclosure process will work on September 12.

      It is widely understood the relatives will be given a period of time prior to the files’ general release to read the new findings and digest its contents.

      A report into the disaster by Lord Justice Taylor ruled Liverpool fans were not to blame for the horrific crushes on the Leppings Lane terraces.

      His findings placed responsibility on a failure of police to maintain overall control and their poor organisation, which was behind the fatal decision to open a gate outside the stadium that led to thousands of fans pouring into the already overcrowded central pens of the stadium

      Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//2012/07/03/hillsborough-independent-panel-s-disaster-disclosure-will-take-place-at-liverpool-s-anglican-cathedral-100252-31310899/?campaign=Northwest_email_echonewsemail:20120703#ixzz1zZ8KpQME
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #204: Jul 04, 2012 01:31:27 pm
      Hillsborough Independent Panel's disaster disclosure will take place at Liverpool's Anglican Cathedral.

      But those from the police forces, ambulance service and the government’s Cabinet office are expected to be of most interest to relatives who lost loved ones and Reds supporters the world over.

      The independent Hillsborough panel, led by the Bishop of Liverpool, are currently contacting all families of the victims to inform them how the disclosure process will work on September 12.

      Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//2012/07/03/hillsborough-independent-panel-s-disaster-disclosure-will-take-place-at-liverpool-s-anglican-cathedral-100252-31310899/?campaign=Northwest_email_echonewsemail:20120703#ixzz1zZ8KpQME
      Let's get to the truth before the witch Thatcher pops her clogs, let the relatives of the 96 get some closure at last.
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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #205: Jul 08, 2012 04:24:52 am
      Just saw Richard Buxton (Journo in Liverpool) having a twitter battle with a few LFC fans over some comments made against him.

      He then responded with a "Always the victims" comment in really, really poor taste (Hes deleted it now).

      Lucky for him its in the dead of night or he could of been in a sh*t storm.

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      Re: Full disclosure of all government documents relating to Hillsborough
      Reply #206: Jul 08, 2012 11:00:37 am
      Just saw Richard Buxton (Journo in Liverpool) having a twitter battle with a few LFC fans over some comments made against him.

      He then responded with a "Always the victims" comment in really, really poor taste (Hes deleted it now).

      Lucky for him its in the dead of night or he could of been in a sh*t storm.



      He's a F***ing crank, just because he does a few blogs he thinks he knows everything. He's far from a journo, mate! One bad copy and paste merchant and has been covering Ciity, sounds like a right bellend.

      He used to be on another forum and some of the stuff he used to post was F***ing shocking and that includes posting about drug problems and supposedly pushing his mum or girlfriend down the stairs.

      Don't trust the lanky c**t!

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