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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #23: Oct 24, 2011 09:30:31 am
      A striker is not a must UNTIL Carroll is proven to be a flop. The only flop at the moment is Downing.
      We need two very creative players. A CAM and a winger who can also score. If Carroll gets good crosses he'll score.
      He cannot prove his quality in 10 min/game!

      Ok, so if Suarez gets injured, we wouldn't need another striker on the bench if Carroll got injured too..

      We need another striker, we have Carroll, Suarez, Bellamy and Kuyt - thats it....Kuyt and Bellamy are played on the wings, so I don't really class them as strikers for us anyway.

      We need a striker who will bang us 20-30 goals a season, and none of them will - Suarez will get 10-15, Carroll 5-10 and the rest will get the odd goal.

      I for one fancy getting in Negredo from Sevilla

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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #24: Oct 24, 2011 09:31:29 am
      De Rossi is not a defensive midfielder. He is an all-round midfielder with a complete game. Here is an example of his usual play:

      Daniele De Rossi vs Bologna 2011 By Zouzinho

      He is absolutely compatible with Gerrard and Lucas. If Kenny wants to pursue his idea about a 3-man midfield, De Rossi would be the perfect addition.


      So we don't have an overload of midfielders already? Henderson, Spearing, Shelvey, Gerrard, Lucas and Adam... De Rossi can come in, if 2 of them leave
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #25: Oct 24, 2011 09:40:22 am
      FFS, why is there a thread about January? We're still 2 months+ away. We don't even know whats going to happen in 2 months time.

      We just bought a bunch of players. Buying more would just unsettle the team and isn't the quick fix. They need time to integrate with the team and so would future players. Some players would also settle quicker than other players.

      Some may be doubting the quality of our current players. If you put your mind in a broader perspective, you'll realise the lads have only been playing together for just about 3+ months. Give our lads time and let us concentrate on our current squad. We're making heaps of chances, only just failing to capitalise on it and that can only be a sign of good things to come. Like I said, we don't know whats going to happen before January.

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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #26: Oct 24, 2011 09:48:04 am
      So we don't have an overload of midfielders already? Henderson, Spearing, Shelvey, Gerrard, Lucas and Adam.  De Rossi can come in, if 2 of them leave

      Personally, I have no problem with Adam leaving, in order to accommodate a top class player like De Rossi. Anyway, Shelvey is already on loan, so no need for anyone to leave. If Kenny continues with the 3-man midfield, it would look like this:

      Gerrard (Adam) - De Rossi (Henderson)

      Lucas (Spearing)

      In my humble opinion, that is a pretty good midfield. A title challenging one.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #27: Oct 24, 2011 09:58:53 am
      I'd like to see KK bring in an experienced goal poacher, someone like Phillips (I'm not saying get Phillips!). Someone who can get goals from January to May for the Champions League.

      Nistelrooy? Too old, but a proven experienced goal getter
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #28: Oct 24, 2011 10:05:24 am
      Ok, so if Suarez gets injured, we wouldn't need another striker on the bench if Carroll got injured too..

      We need another striker, we have Carroll, Suarez, Bellamy and Kuyt - thats it. .Kuyt and Bellamy are played on the wings, so I don't really class them as strikers for us anyway.

      We need a striker who will bang us 20-30 goals a season, and none of them will - Suarez will get 10-15, Carroll 5-10 and the rest will get the odd goal.

      I for one fancy getting in Negredo from Sevilla


      :o Suarez and Carroll can score 20+goals easily but they need proper crosses and service. Negredo would be a great signing for 15-18mil though. But the priority are wingers and CAM. And maybe a CB but we would need to sell a CB
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #29: Oct 24, 2011 10:39:16 am
      Personally, I have no problem with Adam leaving, in order to accommodate a top class player like De Rossi. Anyway, Shelvey is already on loan, so no need for anyone to leave. If Kenny continues with the 3-man midfield, it would look like this:

      Gerrard (Adam) - De Rossi (Henderson)

      Lucas (Spearing)

      In my humble opinion, that is a pretty good midfield. A title challenging one.

      Your pretty much right  apart from adam leaving. I think he is quality may be slow but they will make him more nipper and more agile. Another prob is his tackling but there are great dm who cannot tackle and with lucas on the other side im happy.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #30: Oct 24, 2011 01:24:45 pm
      Apart from the Left back Role, I don't think our first team has improved since Last season, but our squad has for sure.

      Personally, I'd like to see Kelly given a CB role every so often vs weaker teams. I'd like us to sign a playmaker (Silva, Mata types) who can play wide or centrally, but for the time being, I'd  like Maxi to play in that role unless we play difficult opponents where 2 defensive midfielders are needed.

      I feel Lucas, Spearing and Gerrard are more than capable in the middle for this season. Adam and Henderson as backups are good enough.

      As for being Clinical upfront, stick Bellamy in the middle where he can get more opportunities at goal and watch him score 20+ prem goals this season imo.

      With Carroll, he needs to pay further up top and actually hold the ball like how Suarez does and bring people into play. If he does this and works on his movement, I feel we'll have one beast of a striker.

      I actually think our first 11 isn't all that  bad and defo top 4, but I just feel we're playing the wrong system and players. With 1 potentially world class or even world class attacking midfielder who can chip in with a few goals, we'll be complete....... if we play the right system.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #31: Oct 24, 2011 01:38:15 pm
      I think Hazard would be perfect. He also fits in with everything that FSG are willing to invest in, he is young (only 20), and he will no doubt improve and market value go up. I think Hazard and a CB will be a massive improvment to the team. Also if we could get De Rossi aswell, well, I cant wait!
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #32: Oct 24, 2011 01:44:59 pm
      I really don't think we'll get Hazard in January. Possibility in the summer if we qualify for CL, but doubt very much if we fail.

      As for De Rossi, I'd love to see him here with Gerrard pushing to the playmaking/Attacking role, but I feel it's all dependent on where we'll be come January.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #33: Oct 24, 2011 02:19:49 pm
      For me I would like to see this
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      Kelly S. Taylor/Cahill Agger Enrique
                Gerrard            Lucas
      Navas (we can dream)       Downing
                Saviola             Suarez

      For centre back, I think Taylor and Cahill would be reasonable targets and would both perform solidly if brought in.
      Navas at right wing, as he isn't at one of the top sides in La Liga, could relish the chance to play for us, Sevilla aren't small by any means, but they aren't Madrid/Barca/Valencia/Atletico
      Saviola up front, plenty of experience, has pace - for all Suarez can do dribbling, he isn't slow but hasn't got that pace that Nando had. and Saviola is a great finisher - something we lacked yesterday, being 29 he has the experience, but isn't likely to be as expensive as Higuain or any player of a similar calibre. I'm sure he would relish the chance to play here.
      Firstly, do you really think Taylor is better than Carragher. Even though Carra's slow he's twice the player of Taylor. Secondly, Saviola is nowhere near good enough for us. Was decent a few years ago but Kuyt, Carroll or Bellamy is far better.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #34: Oct 24, 2011 02:53:13 pm
      Firstly, do you really think Taylor is better than Carragher. Even though Carra's slow he's twice the player of Taylor. Secondly, Saviola is nowhere near good enough for us. Was decent a few years ago but Kuyt, Carroll or Bellamy is far better.
      Personally I think he'd be solid, he impresses me for Newcastle, and maybe he could learn from Carra while Carra's still here? Saviola is 29, people are calling for experience, and he's a 'predator' has that natural instinct...whereas Kuyt is a more Defensive Forward, Andy is a target man (not a slow one, and got a great long shot) Suarez is great, but not got that great finishing ability, I was only saying Saviola because he's the TYPE of player we need and I couldn't think of one that would come - Higuain is too expensive, but we do need someone who 19/20 times is going to finish a chance. I don't watch ANY Benfica, so I was only going on what I know...but this is the type of player we need
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #35: Oct 24, 2011 02:55:42 pm
      What about playing Suarez as an attacking midfielder, that way you're playing Carroll as well? Drop Adam.

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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #36: Oct 24, 2011 03:03:45 pm
      Surely it is squad after January?

      And no I don't see it changing much.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #37: Oct 24, 2011 03:06:35 pm
      Apart from the Left back Role, I don't think our first team has improved since Last season, but our squad has for sure.

      Personally, I'd like to see Kelly given a CB role every so often vs weaker teams. I'd like us to sign a playmaker (Silva, Mata types) who can play wide or centrally, but for the time being, I'd  like Maxi to play in that role unless we play difficult opponents where 2 defensive midfielders are needed.

      I feel Lucas, Spearing and Gerrard are more than capable in the middle for this season. Adam and Henderson as backups are good enough.

      As for being Clinical upfront, stick Bellamy in the middle where he can get more opportunities at goal and watch him score 20+ prem goals this season imo.

      With Carroll, he needs to pay further up top and actually hold the ball like how Suarez does and bring people into play. If he does this and works on his movement, I feel we'll have one beast of a striker.

      I actually think our first 11 isn't all that  bad and defo top 4, but I just feel we're playing the wrong system and players. With 1 potentially world class or even world class attacking midfielder who can chip in with a few goals, we'll be complete. . . if we play the right system.

      Great post. Totally agreed but we need at least 2 creative players. A CM maybe and a winger.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #38: Oct 24, 2011 03:23:42 pm
      I'll give Kenny and the lads a few more games before I start playing football manager.

      Still missing 1 or 2 top players, but this is still a relatively new squad. We all knew it wasn't going to happen over night.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #39: Oct 24, 2011 07:50:44 pm
      Oh here we go again...... This left back from Iceland...this right winger from Nigeria..FFS!

      The latest signings are still settling into the club, lets get behind them first and see where we are in 8 weeks time.

      In future we may bring one player in January and two in one out in the Summer...the way we used to do business, low turnover and constant improvement.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #40: Oct 24, 2011 09:12:00 pm
      Personally, since summer I watched the very first friendly games in Asia.. then, the friendly games in UK... and then, when the official EPL games started,.. I think we STILL HAVE serious problems with the squad (talkin' about players' quality in several lines), as much as we have an "issue" with our beloved Kenny.
      Aye, I know, it's.. "forbidden" talkin' for.. "taboo" like these, former SUPREME LEGENDS like Kenny. But, if we like to talking SERIOUSLY and with sincerity, we need to.. JUDGE Kenny's managment, someday.. soon.
      Kenny is SUPERB to "inlight", to "puss-up" the lads, to inspire them. Also, he can set-up the team for a game.. And then, when the game starts,.. WHAT?? Kenny "proved" so far, that he can't change a bad situation during a game. If we're front in score, everything's fine. If we're not, that's.. bad! We CAN'T change a situation. And, we had a "LEGACY" on that; we DID that, very-very often, in the past. We could changed a game from a bad disaster to a superb victory.. But NOT NOW, not any more.
      Also, from my part, if you have "handy" about 120.000.000 pounds and you signed ONLY SUAREZ (a great name in national football) and few other.. "good" players (almost unknown to the rest of the world except Britain) - to me, very average quality's, for a team like ours,.. it's kinda of wondering how Kenny (or COMOLLI?!) is good enough to managing a large amount of cash and TRULLY make the team, SERIOUSLY stronger!

      To me, in January Window's opening, we need the following:

      - A couple of GOOD center-backs, equal to.. Hyppia's quality!
      - A great DM center, equal to.. ALONSO's quality!
      - One (or two?) good striker, because.. Suarez.. Carroll.. and Kuyt, they are a "bit".. FEW strikers, for a team like Liverpool!
      - And maybe few players less great quality's, to having them handy for resting the rest.

      So, we're talkin' about.. at least.. 50-70.000.000 pounds to spend MORE, in January! (Don't think Mr Henry would spend MORE; he already did a lot, during summer).
      And makes you wonder, if we need additional 50-70.000.000 pounds more to spend,.. what Kenny did with the last 120.000.000 (including Suarez's signing)??
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #41: Oct 24, 2011 09:23:51 pm
      Personally, since summer I watched the very first friendly games in Asia.. then, the friendly games in UK.  and then, when the official EPL games started,.. I think we STILL HAVE serious problems with the squad (talkin' about players' quality in several lines), as much as we have an "issue" with our beloved Kenny.
      Aye, I know, it's.. "forbidden" talkin' for.. "taboo" like these, former SUPREME LEGENDS like Kenny. But, if we like to talking SERIOUSLY and with sincerity, we need to.. JUDGE Kenny's managment, someday.. soon.
      Kenny is SUPERB to "inlight", to "puss-up" the lads, to inspire them. Also, he can set-up the team for a game.. And then, when the game starts,.. WHAT?? Kenny "proved" so far, that he can't change a bad situation during a game. If we're front in score, everything's fine. If we're not, that's.. bad! We CAN'T change a situation. And, we had a "LEGACY" on that; we DID that, very-very often, in the past. We could changed a game from a bad disaster to a superb victory.. But NOT NOW, not any more.
      Also, from my part, if you have "handy" about 120.000.000 pounds and you signed ONLY SUAREZ (a great name in national football) and few other.. "good" players (almost unknown to the rest of the world except Britain) - to me, very average quality's, for a team like ours,.. it's kinda of wondering how Kenny (or COMOLLI?!) is good enough to managing a large amount of cash and TRULLY make the team, SERIOUSLY stronger!

      To me, in January Window's opening, we need the following:

      - A couple of GOOD center-backs, equal to.. Hyppia's quality!
      - A great DM center, equal to.. ALONSO's quality!
      - One (or two?) good striker, because.. Suarez.. Carroll.. and Kuyt, they are a "bit".. FEW strikers, for a team like Liverpool!
      - And maybe few players less great quality's, to having them handy for resting the rest.

      So, we're talkin' about.. at least.. 50-70.000.000 pounds to spend MORE, in January! (Don't think Mr Henry would spend MORE; he already did a lot, during summer).
      And makes you wonder, if we need additional 50-70.000.000 pounds more to spend,.. what Kenny did with the last 120.000.000 (including Suarez's signing)??

      A couple of centre backs is excessive.. You could make a case for signing one more for when Carra eventually retires, but we've got Coates in now and hopefully Agger's going to be fit enough to play a part.

      I agree, another defensive midfielder wouldn't go amiss, as well as another striker. It's a shame we didn't get Wickham because I thought he'd be perfect for what we needed.

      My main issue is still right midfield though. Henderson is clearly a better centre mid, Kuyt is.. Kuyt, Downing can play there, as could Bellamy I suppose, but we still lack a proper first class winger to put into the starting 11. Eden Hazard would be my number one pick, but of course that's a hopeful one.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #42: Oct 24, 2011 10:22:44 pm
      De Rossi?! I think we all know that isn't going to happen without being in the Champions League.
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      Reply #43: Oct 24, 2011 10:54:56 pm
      Some people on here have been playing a tad too much FIFA.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #44: Oct 25, 2011 12:29:19 am
      Some people on here have been playing a tad too much FIFA.

      Agree. I don't understand why we are talking about January, we still have plenty of time til then.
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      Re: Squad after Janurary
      Reply #45: Oct 25, 2011 01:37:04 am
      Personally, since summer I watched the very first friendly games in Asia.. then, the friendly games in UK.  and then, when the official EPL games started,.. I think we STILL HAVE serious problems with the squad (talkin' about players' quality in several lines), as much as we have an "issue" with our beloved Kenny.
      Aye, I know, it's.. "forbidden" talkin' for.. "taboo" like these, former SUPREME LEGENDS like Kenny. But, if we like to talking SERIOUSLY and with sincerity, we need to.. JUDGE Kenny's managment, someday.. soon.
      Kenny is SUPERB to "inlight", to "puss-up" the lads, to inspire them. Also, he can set-up the team for a game.. And then, when the game starts,.. WHAT?? Kenny "proved" so far, that he can't change a bad situation during a game. If we're front in score, everything's fine. If we're not, that's.. bad! We CAN'T change a situation. And, we had a "LEGACY" on that; we DID that, very-very often, in the past. We could changed a game from a bad disaster to a superb victory.. But NOT NOW, not any more.
      Also, from my part, if you have "handy" about 120.000.000 pounds and you signed ONLY SUAREZ (a great name in national football) and few other.. "good" players (almost unknown to the rest of the world except Britain) - to me, very average quality's, for a team like ours,.. it's kinda of wondering how Kenny (or COMOLLI?!) is good enough to managing a large amount of cash and TRULLY make the team, SERIOUSLY stronger!

      To me, in January Window's opening, we need the following:

      - A couple of GOOD center-backs, equal to.. Hyppia's quality!
      - A great DM center, equal to.. ALONSO's quality!
      - One (or two?) good striker, because.. Suarez.. Carroll.. and Kuyt, they are a "bit".. FEW strikers, for a team like Liverpool!
      - And maybe few players less great quality's, to having them handy for resting the rest.

      So, we're talkin' about.. at least.. 50-70.000.000 pounds to spend MORE, in January! (Don't think Mr Henry would spend MORE; he already did a lot, during summer).
      And makes you wonder, if we need additional 50-70.000.000 pounds more to spend,.. what Kenny did with the last 120.000.000 (including Suarez's signing)??
      :roll:
      The team is still F***ing gelling!!! :mad:

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