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      Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment

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      RobieSlick
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #775: Dec 07, 2011 10:16:09 am
       >:(
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #776: Dec 07, 2011 10:29:34 am
      After watching the five years plans with Houllier and Rafa not going anywhere we had good ole Woy.

      agreed on roy, but i wouldn't say 5 year plans under houllier and rafa were not going anywhere. we won the treble under houllier and the rest under rafa. but anyway, i don't want to turn this into a rafa/houllier thread to add to gazillions already out there :)

      we go f***ed by the ref, big time but we should have killed the game before that. the midfield isn't chipping in enough with goals either. someone mentioned us missing gerrard and i completely agree. second half of last season we had more goals from suarez and midfield but that's dried up. we have on paper 3 good attacking midfielders in adam, henderson and downing with 3 league goals between them this season, not good enough.
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #777: Dec 07, 2011 10:48:17 am
      Its all about the finger  what about that c**t Dempsey shoving his head in Bellamy,s face  should have fcking walked for that  alone ,am still fuming and could cheerfully strangle that c**t of a ref last night -
      Agree 100% Andy that was disgraceful conduct and Reds have been shown for the same behaviour in other games, the dickhead of a ref was at one point in the same camera shot observing the incident and unbelievably booked the wrong man!!!
      It's been said before but too much depends on the outcome of these games to have visually challenged buffoons officiating to any degree whatsoever.
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      Reply #778: Dec 07, 2011 11:36:49 am
      Total and utter sh*te. I have been a Liverpool fan since I can remember and probably before you were even born. I watched Kenny play (that's how long I have been supporting Liverpool) for Liverpool so don't tell me I am a glory hunting fan. I even went thru the Souness years & never stopped supporting my beloved Liverpool when you were probably a twinkle in your daddy's eyes.

      After watching the five years plans with Houllier and Rafa not going anywhere we had good ole Woy. I just could not take what Woy was dishing out. Nothing glory hunting about it. I seem to remember not much support at Anfield when Woy for in change of his final few games. Where were you then? For me watching paint dry in North Pole with no clothes on would have been preferable than watching the cr@p Woy was making Liverpool play.

      Nice up on the defensive there with the "I've been a fan for years!" card. If you read my next post you would see I didn't mean to offend - but at the same time I mean what I said.

      I don't give a f**k about proverbial dick measuring on what you think is a worthy supporter. There are young and old, far and wide, who support this club. What matters is how you support it. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings a little, but I stand by what I said. If you stopped watching, and in turn that is stopping supporting, then I'm sorry but I don't think there's any excuse  :-\

      That's my piece on that, back on topic.

      Agree 100% Andy that was disgraceful conduct and Reds have been shown for the same behaviour in other games, the dickhead of a ref was at one point in the same camera shot observing the incident and unbelievably booked the wrong man!!!
      It's been said before but too much depends on the outcome of these games to have visually challenged buffoons officiating to any degree whatsoever.

      That f**king c**t Friend was watching the whole thing and didn't do sh*t. Disgraceful performance on the night by Kevin, seems he has a history of sh*te refereeing as well so might do well to find another profession. F***ing idiot.

      Not blaming the result entirely on him, as we should have put it away well before we lost a man and conceded, but he certainly had more of a hand in swaying things than a referee ever should.
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #779: Dec 07, 2011 12:39:43 pm
      Only game of the season I've missed as was on a plane, but we should be winning all of these. To complete for top 4 - its looking tough, we cant drop another point this year.
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #780: Dec 07, 2011 07:53:53 pm
      Simply put, if we dont take our scoring chances we wont win many games.
      Regardless of missing Lucas, Gerrard or anybody else, our problem this season has been scoring goals. If we put away our chances, then a mistake by our keeper or defence can be forgiven. I cant remember how many matches this season we were the better side, yet still didnt get maximum points... only match we were poor was vs Spurs. Since then we have been better without finishing teams off.
      Im not saying buy more attackers (which we do need), just that we need to work on our finishing urgently. Look at the Prem top scorers and we only have Luis (4) with nobody else... simply not good enough.

      This team has the ability to go on another unbeaten run of games, but we will have to start scoring.
       
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      Reply #781: Dec 07, 2011 08:00:49 pm


      Just more proof that we was robbed on Monday night  :mad:
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #782: Dec 07, 2011 09:04:19 pm


      Just more proof that we was robbed on Monday night  :mad:

      Ridiculous. I understand that it's a job done by humans, and thus inevitably prone to mistakes. But this isn't a sport where there is typically lots of scoring and it doesn't matter - these kinds of decisions make or break games a lot. I'm not saying I know a better solution but it's frustrating that this happens.
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      Reply #783: Dec 07, 2011 09:21:53 pm
      Isn't that what the fourth official is there for? or is that just to make up the numbers  :laugh:
      It starts the debate again of replays like they have in rugby, it seems to work for them so why would it not work for us? would probably make some of the games a lot more interesting, specially the Utd ones  ;)
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      Reply #784: Dec 07, 2011 10:29:53 pm
      Simply put, if we dont take our scoring chances we wont win many games.
      Regardless of missing Lucas, Gerrard or anybody else, our problem this season has been scoring goals. If we put away our chances, then a mistake by our keeper or defence can be forgiven. I cant remember how many matches this season we were the better side, yet still didnt get maximum points... only match we were poor was vs Spurs. Since then we have been better without finishing teams off.
      Im not saying buy more attackers (which we do need), just that we need to work on our finishing urgently. Look at the Prem top scorers and we only have Luis (4) with nobody else... simply not good enough.

      This team has the ability to go on another unbeaten run of games, but we will have to start scoring.
       

      Completely agree.
      Watching the game the other night was more deja vu, same ol same ol, man we've sat and watched how many games like that over the last few years, against the 'lesser' teams.
      We get a couple of good results that we maybe didn't expect, get the old hopes up, then disappoint when expected to win.
      In saying that, the problem last season was we were completely sh*te under Roy.
      The other night I thought we were the better team, created the better chances and should at the very least come away with a point.
      Well before Spearing got the red we should've scored 1 or 2.
      Suarez setup Andy twice early on, one saved by the keeper, the other a fresh air shot by Andy.
      We're scoring f**k all goals!!!!!!
      At some point Andy is going to have to contribute cause for the money spent we're getting very little return at the moment.
      Don't want to come down on the lad, and KK IS giving him chances to show something (what choice has he but start him as often as he dare), but it's just not happening fior him.
      Not just that, but when he plays, we look a bit more laboured going forward, and there is a temptation to launch it up to him.
      I still prefer to see Suarez start up front with maybe Bellers/Kuyt on the wings and 3 in the middle. We look more solid and brighter in attack.
      What's Aguero got for Shitty - 10? And he's missed a fair few matches/not started em all.  If Andy had chipped in 6 or 7 we'd be in much better shape, considering the defense isn't leaking too many the other end.
      We've a few injuries and that, but the main problem is scoring. Can only hope the goals start coming. You get the feeling we could clobber someone some day soon, and that might loosen things up. Here's hopin ...
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      Re: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Disappointment
      Reply #785: Dec 07, 2011 10:53:41 pm
      Okay, so Monday night was hard viewing. We didn't play great but we did well enough to win. Okay, so decisions don't go our way. We can't go against the view, however, that these decisions usually even themselves out across the course of the season.

      I was frustrated because we lost. However, what angered me most is the level of chance creation and the failure to take the chances we did have. For me, we need another striker, or at least put Bellamy up top. As much as I love Suarez, he misses an awful lot of chances and I see him more as a creative Forward. That is no criticism of Suarez but he is effectively playing the role of 2 strikers at the minute. Some may place the blame of that on Carroll. However, I thought Andy and Luis linked up very well on Monday evening, but not clinical enough.
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      Reply #786: Dec 07, 2011 11:26:16 pm
      Okay, so Monday night was hard viewing. We didn't play great but we did well enough to win. Okay, so decisions don't go our way. We can't go against the view, however, that these decisions usually even themselves out across the course of the season.

      I was frustrated because we lost. However, what angered me most is the level of chance creation and the failure to take the chances we did have. For me, we need another striker, or at least put Bellamy up top. As much as I love Suarez, he misses an awful lot of chances and I see him more as a creative Forward. That is no criticism of Suarez but he is effectively playing the role of 2 strikers at the minute. Some may place the blame of that on Carroll. However, I thought Andy and Luis linked up very well on Monday evening, but not clinical enough.

      Agreed, I saw a stat the other day that compared the percentage of goals scored against clear chances made - Suarez was one of the worst at conversion. Below Carroll as well. Suarez is invaluable to the teams play, but his inability to put away chances is as a problem when he's the main focal point.
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      Reply #787: Dec 08, 2011 12:47:01 am
      This is the kind of games that we have to win, don't matter how we win it. We beat those top 4 teams & then we lost to the middle & lower teams. We are back to square one.

      Its just so frustrating,  :mad:  :mad:  :mad: .
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      Reply #788: Dec 08, 2011 01:00:56 am
      Agreed, I saw a stat the other day that compared the percentage of goals scored against clear chances made - Suarez was one of the worst at conversion. Below Carroll as well. Suarez is invaluable to the teams play, but his inability to put away chances is as a problem when he's the main focal point.

      Well, he did score a cracking goal from a magnificent piece of skill, only to be incorrectly disallowed for offside....
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      Reply #789: Dec 08, 2011 01:03:00 am
      Well, he did score a cracking goal from a magnificent piece of skill, only to be incorrectly disallowed for offside....

      Remember hearing the commentator say "He may be a more scorer of magnificent goals rather than a magnificent goal scorer," or something to that effect. Hope that isn't always the case.
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      Reply #790: Dec 08, 2011 01:45:39 am
      Well, he did score a cracking goal from a magnificent piece of skill, only to be incorrectly disallowed for offside....

      He did, not denying that. But facts are facts, and I don't think anyone can deny a more clinical Suarez with the amount of chances he's had (he's right up there at the top of the leaderboard of chances I believe) would probably have us with a few more points.

      Again, I'm not blaming him at all. He's one of our most important players. Love the guy, and I'm gonna be pissed if we lose him for a couple matches due to his finger spasm. But just because he's so good and has quickly become loved, it doesn't mean we can't point out little faults here and there - and Suarez just isn't as natural a finisher. Torres of old would have finished a lot of the chances he's had.

      I'm not criticizing him as a player, he's so creative and valuable. Just need someone up there to complement his creativity, unfortunately Carroll isn't that guy right now. Hopefully he will be though, I still have faith in the guy unlike many.

      Remember hearing the commentator say "He may be a more scorer of magnificent goals rather than a magnificent goal scorer," or something to that effect. Hope that isn't always the case.

      Great way of putting it that. To be fair he's had a lot of brilliant saves on his shots as well, but he still does fluff a few too many. He's still got plenty of growth in him though, so I feel he's always learning with this years ups and downs so far.

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