FA Suarez documents released

This is the finding into the Suarez v Evra case

Long read 115 pages served to LFC yesterday now have upto 13th to appeal.

Link to FA report


Somebody summarized it on another forum

FA's case:

The FA's case, in short, was as follows. In the goalmouth, Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied "Porque tu eres negro", meaning "Because you are black". Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Mr Suarez replied "No hablo con los negros", meaning "I don't speak to blacks". Mr Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr Suarez replied "Dale, negro, negro, negro", which meant "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie". As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee "ref, ref, he just called me a F***ing black".


LFC case:

Mr Suarez denied the Charge. His case, in short, was as follows. He agreed with Mr Evra that they spoke to each other in Spanish in the goalmouth. When Mr Evra asked why he had kicked him, Mr Suarez replied that it was a normal foul and shrugged his shoulders. Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to shut up. As Mr Kuyt was approaching, Mr Suarez touched Mr Evra's left arm in a pinching style movement. According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he use the word "negro". When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay. In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just black- haired). Thus, it meant "Why, black?" Mr Suarez maintained that when he said "Por que, negro?" to Mr Evra, it was intended in a conciliatory and friendly way. Mr Suarez said this was the only time that he used the word “negro” in his exchanges with Mr Evra during the match.

Doesn't look good :/

Evra still sounds like a F***ing bi*ch

115 pages long, what are they hoping, every f**ker gets bored and gives up before they get to the end

I'll have a read later, need to get ready and spend New Years with my fams, I'd rather not, but what the F**k ha ha.

Doesn't look good :/

Why?

Evra is claiming this, nobody else heard it. 

I just cannot imagine Luis saying those events which Patrice has described. It sounds childish, like a 14 year old half racist Call of Duty player.

Experts from the University of Manchester....

F**k me Evra account sounds like something off world weekly news.  No way in the world is that believable if it went to court Evra would be torn apart in the box

Suarez 'doesn't speak with black people', even thouh his grandfather is black. Makes sense.

Suarez 'doesn't speak with black people', even thouh his grandfather is black. Makes sense.

 

How can you punish someone on the word of one person?
Especially if that person is Patrice Evra?

Interesting De Gea never heard all this!

Interesting De Gea never heard all this!

He was too busy bricking it in case the ball came anywhere near him

LFC case:

According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he use the word "negro". When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay.

Confused..

what a strange conversation that first one is.

Confused..

The first part is Suarez' word, and the second part is Evras i assume.

But i am way out of my depth analyzing this anyway.

seriously, what does senior member who have a clue, make of this? could we have a case?

"Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra" says the report. That opens the FA to immense scrutiny.

So let me get this right Evra doesn't think Suarez is a racist after supposedly saying that.  Strange that

If Suarez has admitted to using the word "negro", regardless of his culture or in what context he meant, I think we're in the sh*t.

Still baffled though, as otherwise it seems like one mans word vs another, two completely different accounts.

"Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra" says the report. That opens the FA to immense scrutiny.

how could they be witness, one is the accuser and the other one is the defended. shouldn't the case be dismissed cuz it becomes only ones words against the others or am i missing something here?

Confused..

That part out the conversation happened when the ref had blown his whistle, therefore not necessarily still in the goalmouth

The FA are desperately trying to make the evidence fit their verdict.

The fact that they have implied that Evra, a Spanish speaker, thought that 'negro' is the same as 'nigger', when everyone knows it isn't, is indicative of that.

The use of the word 'nigger' in the report is a dirty tactic because its what all the media will pick up on, even though it wasn't actually said.

cu*ts.

Another question........


where the F**k did evra learn spanish from?