Did Bellers care more about Cardiff than Liverpool

Fantastic time yesterday winning Carling cup, one thing that started to really irk me a few days ago is how Craig Bellemy seemed more concerned about not beating Cardiff than Winning The Cup for Liverpool. 

Ever single time he said he wont celebrate if he scores or wins out of respect, fair enough but what about respecting those fans who are cheering your name week in week out, just seemed to me he was more concerned about Cardiff yesterday than Liverpool and I think Kenny was spot on leaving him on the bench.

I don't think he would have tried any less than normal just that his heart wasn't in it to win it for Liverpool and even now after winning the cup he still is going on about how he didn't care if we won or not, well we as the fans did care!!

Seriously Craig show some consideration to the fans who are supporting you now.

Really?
F**k off mate, he's been through a tough time.
I'm sure the Wales game and all that came flooding back to him after the game.
He always gives 100%.

Ashley Williams admits Wales stars are set for difficult week as they aim to honour Gary Speed
By Chris WathanFeb 26 2012

 
SHOCK. Sadness. A sense of the surreal.

Ashley Williams knows all the emotions that took such a terrible grip on Sunday, November 27 are about to come flooding back.

Because, four months on from the devastating loss of Gary Speed, the awful reality will really hammer home for Williams and the rest of the Wales camp when they meet for the game set to honour him.

“We knew it was coming, that it would all be fresh in our minds again,” says the Swansea City centre-back ahead of Wednesday’s friendly match with Costa Rica, a game dedicated as a tribute to the late national boss.

“We’re a close group as a squad. A lot of us have come across each other once or twice and I’ve spoken to a few of the lads like Craig (Bellamy) on the phone since.

“But to be all there together and not with Gary will bring it all back. It will make things very real.”

The last time Williams, Bellamy, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale and the rest of Speed’s squad shared a dressing room as a team all was right with the world.

Norway had been comprehensively beaten. Rows over Team GB had subsided simply because of an excitement about the future of Team Wales. And Speed was very much part of it.

At the same venue Wales must keep looking forward in one of their final three fixtures before the qualifying road to Brazil begins, but not without minds turning back.

“We know we’ve got a game to play but it’s going to be strange,” says Williams, a contender to lead out the side given doubts over Ramsey’s fitness.

“It’s an important game because we’re still working towards the campaign and keeping this progress going.

“But it’s impossible to ignore the circumstances. It’s going to be a bit like when we played Villa. We’ll want to win it for Gary but it is going to be a strange experience.”

Just one hour after Speed’s death was confirmed by the Football Association of Wales, Swansea kicked off their Premier League fixture with Aston Villa.

The tears shed by Villa goalkeeper Shay Given in the pre-match tribute suggested the game should never have gone ahead.

“Looking back we shouldn’t have,” says the 27-year-old, who played seven times under Speed having established himself as Wales’ No.1 defender.

“I remember being in the dressing room getting ready as normal when I had a message that James Collins wanted to speak to me.

“When I got outside the door he told me about Alan Shearer having phoned Shay Given earlier. I knew from his face it was real and the shock just hit me.

“I went back into the dressing room ready to tell the rest of the lads but by the time I’d been outside the news had already started filtering through on texts and Twitter.

“As soon as we were told the game was going ahead we got ourselves ready, focused and I had it in my mind to try and look after Joe (Allen) and Tayls (Neil Taylor).

“But it affected all the side, everyone in the stadium. The atmosphere was so weird. It felt as thought people just wanted to get it over with.

“We’d wanted to play it to dedicate it to Gary. He was a football man and the feeling, certainly from our camp, was that what better way to celebrate his life than by playing the game he loved.

“But having gone through it, it felt like a wasted exercise. I’ve never played in a match like that before where you almost don’t care about the result.

“I tried my best to get going but it didn’t happen. It was always going to finish 0-0.”

Williams, no doubt like many in that Wales side, like many across the nation and across the game, says the next few days were a haze of not being able to fully take in what had happened. Why it had happened.

“How could anyone have seen it coming?” he asks. “Perhaps with someone else, but not him. I guess it shows no-one knows someone like the person themselves.”

The Speed Welsh football knew will be celebrated in Cardiff in three days, more than 50 former international colleagues attending while the likes of Super Furry Animals will play for the man who captained Wales more than any other.

The squad, though, come together tonight with a new manager to welcome them. But the will-he’s and won’t-he’s about who is coming and going along with Chris Coleman has led to plenty of uncertainty about the immediate future.

“I don’t know what’s planned or what will happen to be honest,” Williams says.

“We know Chris is the manager but we won’t know how things will move on until those first meetings.

“You almost want to get this game out of the way and the Mexico game in New York will be a good chance for us all to come together fresh and bond again.

“But I don’t think it’s about putting a full-stop on things. No-one wants that. We want to move forward and this game will do that, but we don’t want to forget Gary – we want to qualify for him. As long as we stay focused and together we can do that.”

It will take the likes of Williams to stay in the form he showed under Speed for that to happen, for country and club with the three Swans in the Welsh set-up blossoming in the top flight.

“I think we’ve more than dealt with the step-up so far,” says Williams of his first taste of top-level football.

“But no-one wants to stand still, we want to keep pushing and progressing and developing as players and as a team.”

The next challenge for the trio and the rest of Brendan Rodgers’ side is today’s trip to Stoke, a real return of intent after a 15-day break between fixtures allowed the Swansea squad to getaway to warmer climes for a training camp.

“I think my body needed the break and it was good to get out in the sun,” Williams says having played in every Premier League minute this season.

“We were able to recharge with a change of scenery and refocus but we have a real test straight away.

“But the difference between us as a side this season to last is that I think we’ve shown we can stand up physically.

“We might lose but we won’t get rolled over in that sense.

“ We’ve got to show that again today but also impose our game on the ball.”

But if the physical challenge is overcome today, the emotional one awaits for Williams and Wales on Wednesday.



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Really?
F**k off mate, he's been through a tough time.
I'm sure the Wales game and all that came flooding back to him after the game.
He always gives 100%.

Ashley Williams admits Wales stars are set for difficult week as they aim to honour Gary Speed
By Chris WathanFeb 26 2012

 
SHOCK. Sadness. A sense of the surreal.

Ashley Williams knows all the emotions that took such a terrible grip on Sunday, November 27 are about to come flooding back.

Because, four months on from the devastating loss of Gary Speed, the awful reality will really hammer home for Williams and the rest of the Wales camp when they meet for the game set to honour him.

“We knew it was coming, that it would all be fresh in our minds again,” says the Swansea City centre-back ahead of Wednesday’s friendly match with Costa Rica, a game dedicated as a tribute to the late national boss.

“We’re a close group as a squad. A lot of us have come across each other once or twice and I’ve spoken to a few of the lads like Craig (Bellamy) on the phone since.

“But to be all there together and not with Gary will bring it all back. It will make things very real.”

The last time Williams, Bellamy, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale and the rest of Speed’s squad shared a dressing room as a team all was right with the world.

Norway had been comprehensively beaten. Rows over Team GB had subsided simply because of an excitement about the future of Team Wales. And Speed was very much part of it.

At the same venue Wales must keep looking forward in one of their final three fixtures before the qualifying road to Brazil begins, but not without minds turning back.

“We know we’ve got a game to play but it’s going to be strange,” says Williams, a contender to lead out the side given doubts over Ramsey’s fitness.

“It’s an important game because we’re still working towards the campaign and keeping this progress going.

“But it’s impossible to ignore the circumstances. It’s going to be a bit like when we played Villa. We’ll want to win it for Gary but it is going to be a strange experience.”

Just one hour after Speed’s death was confirmed by the Football Association of Wales, Swansea kicked off their Premier League fixture with Aston Villa.

The tears shed by Villa goalkeeper Shay Given in the pre-match tribute suggested the game should never have gone ahead.

“Looking back we shouldn’t have,” says the 27-year-old, who played seven times under Speed having established himself as Wales’ No.1 defender.

“I remember being in the dressing room getting ready as normal when I had a message that James Collins wanted to speak to me.

“When I got outside the door he told me about Alan Shearer having phoned Shay Given earlier. I knew from his face it was real and the shock just hit me.

“I went back into the dressing room ready to tell the rest of the lads but by the time I’d been outside the news had already started filtering through on texts and Twitter.

“As soon as we were told the game was going ahead we got ourselves ready, focused and I had it in my mind to try and look after Joe (Allen) and Tayls (Neil Taylor).

“But it affected all the side, everyone in the stadium. The atmosphere was so weird. It felt as thought people just wanted to get it over with.

“We’d wanted to play it to dedicate it to Gary. He was a football man and the feeling, certainly from our camp, was that what better way to celebrate his life than by playing the game he loved.

“But having gone through it, it felt like a wasted exercise. I’ve never played in a match like that before where you almost don’t care about the result.

“I tried my best to get going but it didn’t happen. It was always going to finish 0-0.”

Williams, no doubt like many in that Wales side, like many across the nation and across the game, says the next few days were a haze of not being able to fully take in what had happened. Why it had happened.

“How could anyone have seen it coming?” he asks. “Perhaps with someone else, but not him. I guess it shows no-one knows someone like the person themselves.”

The Speed Welsh football knew will be celebrated in Cardiff in three days, more than 50 former international colleagues attending while the likes of Super Furry Animals will play for the man who captained Wales more than any other.

The squad, though, come together tonight with a new manager to welcome them. But the will-he’s and won’t-he’s about who is coming and going along with Chris Coleman has led to plenty of uncertainty about the immediate future.

“I don’t know what’s planned or what will happen to be honest,” Williams says.

“We know Chris is the manager but we won’t know how things will move on until those first meetings.

“You almost want to get this game out of the way and the Mexico game in New York will be a good chance for us all to come together fresh and bond again.

“But I don’t think it’s about putting a full-stop on things. No-one wants that. We want to move forward and this game will do that, but we don’t want to forget Gary – we want to qualify for him. As long as we stay focused and together we can do that.”

It will take the likes of Williams to stay in the form he showed under Speed for that to happen, for country and club with the three Swans in the Welsh set-up blossoming in the top flight.

“I think we’ve more than dealt with the step-up so far,” says Williams of his first taste of top-level football.

“But no-one wants to stand still, we want to keep pushing and progressing and developing as players and as a team.”

The next challenge for the trio and the rest of Brendan Rodgers’ side is today’s trip to Stoke, a real return of intent after a 15-day break between fixtures allowed the Swansea squad to getaway to warmer climes for a training camp.

“I think my body needed the break and it was good to get out in the sun,” Williams says having played in every Premier League minute this season.

“We were able to recharge with a change of scenery and refocus but we have a real test straight away.

“But the difference between us as a side this season to last is that I think we’ve shown we can stand up physically.

“We might lose but we won’t get rolled over in that sense.

“ We’ve got to show that again today but also impose our game on the ball.”

But if the physical challenge is overcome today, the emotional one awaits for Williams and Wales on Wednesday.



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cool down mate, its very harsh on the kid

cool down mate, its very harsh on the kid

He's got more on his mind then how the fans feel right now.

If you lot can't see that it says more about you then it does about Craig.

  

Come on... Bellers never gives any less than 100%.. He would have wanted to win that as much as anyone.

He was a Red growing up in Cardiff.. Cardiff are his Dads team, he respects them and is a proud Welsh man, Cardiff are his home town club but is a Red.

He has a game for Wales coming up in the week for his friends memory and I'm sure that came to him yesterday as well.


Without wanting to repeat myself, Bellers would have wanted to win that as much as anyone.

Craig Bellamy admitted he had sympathy for his former club Cardiff City after Liverpool's dramatic Carling Cup final victory.

Liverpool prevailed 3-2 on penalties against the Championship side after the game finished 2-2 at the end of extra-time at Wembley.

Reds forward Bellamy, who spent last season on loan at Cardiff, admitted the Bluebirds pushed Liverpool all the way and he was just happy to bring the trophy back to Anfield.

"We knew it was going to be a difficult game, which obviously it proved and it sort of reminded me of the Birmingham game [last season's final win over Arsenal] last year," Bellamy told Sky Sports News.

"Finals are very, very difficult and that just proved it.

"We thought we were going to win towards the end and they fought back and credit to them, they were outstanding.

"We have won a trophy, but the simple fact is there is pressure on this club and pressure on the players day in and day out to perform at the highest level and that's really what we have to continue and try and do."

"But unfortunately for them, and fortunately for us, no one is going to remember what happened really, it is just basically going to be another trophy to Liverpool's great history.

"I do feel a little bit sorry for them, but it is a trophy for us."

New dawn

Bellamy is refusing to speculate whether the success could herald the dawning of a new era at Anfield and insists there is still a lot to play for this season.

Asked if the cup victory could be the platform for more success, Bellamy said: "We will have to wait and see.

"Birmingham last year was it a platform for them? It certainly wasn't, so it's not the end of the season for us now.

"We have won a trophy, but the simple fact is there is pressure on this club and pressure on the players day in and day out to perform at the highest level and that's really what we have to continue and try and do."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7550923/Bellamy-admits-Cardiff-sympathy

Think this is a ridiculous thread

Really?
F**k off mate, he's been through a tough time.
I'm sure the Wales game and all that came flooding back to him after the game.
He always gives 100%.

 

No need for that la, its a fair enough point of view even if i disagree with it myself.

I can hear what your sayin woodsie but I suppose you have to try and understand the man himself and how he conducts himself both on and off the pitch..
To me he comes across as a really nice guy both in interviews(watch 60 mins with CB on LFCtv) and on the pitch with his passion..He's obviously a big softy at heart and you have to wonder what went through his head after scoring the winning goal against Man City in the semi final that he'd be involved against his beloved boyhood team Cardiff City...That coupled with Gary Speeds death must've been a real head f**k..
I agree with you in that Kenny did the right thing leaving him on the bench and when he did come on he had to slot into that deeper role which  Henderson covered so we never saw him as we have done so much in recent games..
When Enrique put him clear in the box I honestly thought he'd produce the winning cross and there was a few other moments when he did go close..His corners were good but their 2 big centre halves outshone our attackers..
When you think of how the likes of Tevez celebrated for City against Man Utd and how Adabyour ran the whole length of the pitch when he scored against Arsenal to goad their fans I don't think Craig is wrong in saying what he said..
He's a real character to have in your squad and i'm so glad he's in ours, he wears his heart on his sleeve and there are few individuals like that left in football these days...Its not his fault he was wearing a red shirt when he scored against Norwich , Newcastle and Man City this season , he could've put the ball in row Z like Charlie did.
We are gonna need his attacking flare and passion as we enter the final run in this season..

Not the best of threads. Bellers gives 100% everytime he puts a Liverpool shirt on. You can't stop the lad for having feelings. He's the best player you have brought into the club for a while. Having a thread like this doesn't do the lad justice.

Thread should be locked.

Really?
F**k off mate, he's been through a tough time.
I'm sure the Wales game and all that came flooding back to him after the game.
He always gives 100%.

Bang on the money Racer.

I can't believe this thread.

I knowBellers plays for Liverpool and is a Liverpool fan ... but I don't think you can blame him because he was born in Cardiff and he loves the club and city as well.

Don't think it's fair to say he doesn't give 100% for or respect Liverpool fans.

No need for that la, its a fair enough point of view even if i disagree with it myself.

It's not really a fair point though for me..

Could never question someone like Bellers will to win.

The tale of two pictures......




He's a Cardiff boy, he was gutted out of respect for his home town but happy as an LFC lad. Look into things before starting a pointless thread.

Then Bellamy realised he loved Kenny more and all was well on the forums.

Yeah, what a F***ing bellend.

Showing no emotion after dumping his former and boyhood/local club out of the only major competition they have stood a chance of winning in the past few years and probably for a few years to come. Give over.

What did you want him to do? Run over to the Cardiff end laughing his bollocks off at them?

Horrible situation for him and I didn't expect anything less. Showed his class once again.

Utterly pointless thread.

We should just hijack this and turn it into a bellars appreciation thread.

To that end did you see him arguing on the pitch with the wembley fella in the suit just before kick off?

I love the angry bellars, proper passion.

Craig Bellamy's Speed tribute - Liverpool FC

I hope the next forum awards have a 'Most Retarded Thread' section, we've had a few corkers already this year.

I hope the next forum awards have a 'Most Retarded Thread' section, we've had a few corkers already this year.

I can only apologise..

I can only apologise..

We'll let you off due to your newness and ferocious post rate. You barely have time to consider what you're typing.

 

I'm surprised the FA aren't investigating Anthony Gerrard myself. Think about it - an admitted boyhood Liverpudlian volunteers to take the deciding penalty and then tamely side foots it wide? Something not right there. I reckon he's had a bet on himself to miss there aswell.

This IS the knee jerk thread, right?

We'll let you off due to your newness and ferocious post rate. You barely have time to consider what you're typing.

Duly noted..

See you all in April 

If anything thought we played better when Bellamy came on.

  Really???

After the year he's had, you have the temerity to ask whether he cares more for Cardiff? Craig's a professional, he wanted to win yesterday, and you can bet he'd want a goal even if he kept saying he wouldn't celebrate. Doesn't matter who he cares more for. He plays for us now, and you can be damn sure what he cared about most was getting that medal for himself, and the trophy for the club.

I understand where this point of view comes from, but I didn't see Bellamy do anything that could possibly attract this criticism.

I don't think he cared more about Cardiff, I just think he was showing respect to a team he loves.

As fans, we appreciate how difficult it will have been for Bellers to play and then watch his local side lose in the most cruel of fashions. If anyone questions his commitment to us over them that day, then I lose all hope in our supporters.

This is just a rediculous thread ..simple
  To think bellers  did not give100% deliberately, is stupid

 sorry,won't come in this thread again
 

 YNWA

He missed all his shots on purpose the c**t.

No, I'll leave now, before I hit someone. 

Fantastic time yesterday winning Carling cup, one thing that started to really irk me a few days ago is how Craig Bellemy seemed more concerned about not beating Cardiff than Winning The Cup for Liverpool. 

Ever single time he said he wont celebrate if he scores or wins out of respect, fair enough but what about respecting those fans who are cheering your name week in week out, just seemed to me he was more concerned about Cardiff yesterday than Liverpool and I think Kenny was spot on leaving him on the bench.



I don't think he would have tried any less than normal just that his heart wasn't in it to win it for Liverpool and even now after winning the cup he still is going on about how he didn't care if we won or not, well we as the fans did care!!

Seriously Craig show some consideration to the fans who are supporting you now.

F**k Off Lad

I found some of his comments strange in the week before kick off.  No doubt in my mind that if Cardiff get promoted he will probably go to them in the summer.

Fantastic time yesterday winning Carling cup, one thing that started to really irk me a few days ago is how Craig Bellemy seemed more concerned about not beating Cardiff than Winning The Cup for Liverpool. 

Ever single time he said he wont celebrate if he scores or wins out of respect, fair enough but what about respecting those fans who are cheering your name week in week out, just seemed to me he was more concerned about Cardiff yesterday than Liverpool and I think Kenny was spot on leaving him on the bench.

I don't think he would have tried any less than normal just that his heart wasn't in it to win it for Liverpool and even now after winning the cup he still is going on about how he didn't care if we won or not, well we as the fans did care!!

Seriously Craig show some consideration to the fans who are supporting you now.

You need to give yourself a good f***in shake fella, either that or your just a WUM on here to F**k with posters minds, whatever, you are seriously deluded if you think or believe Bellers would not give %100 or be more concerned with Cardiff,

It's his home town FF's, he was born and bred there, it's his 'ol' man's team, he's going to feel sentimental, sometimes i wonder about the mentality of the modern LFC fan, your attitude towards our players is not worthy of your support, so wise up fella and engage your braincell before you operate your gob,
either that or Foxtrot Oscar.

   Oh dear oh dear *shakes head in disbelief*

No more words needed.

silly thread really. anyone with some class or loyalty would have behaved in the same way. gave it all when he came on. end of story.

Is this still open, I think it says a lot about Bellamy is clapped by Man City and Cardiff fans, his work in Sierra Leone is an absolute credit to him and he has never used it to show how great he. And lastly he has told Terry on numerous times what he thinks of him something we would all love to do.

I think it is disrespectful to Bellamy to suggest he didn't give 100%.



That's hardly the face of someone who wanted Cardiff to win or didn't want to be part of the winning team.

That's all I want to say on this subject.

Fantastic time yesterday winning Carling cup, one thing that started to really irk me a few days ago is how Craig Bellemy seemed more concerned about not beating Cardiff than Winning The Cup for Liverpool. 

Ever single time he said he wont celebrate if he scores or wins out of respect, fair enough but what about respecting those fans who are cheering your name week in week out, just seemed to me he was more concerned about Cardiff yesterday than Liverpool and I think Kenny was spot on leaving him on the bench.

I don't think he would have tried any less than normal just that his heart wasn't in it to win it for Liverpool and even now after winning the cup he still is going on about how he didn't care if we won or not, well we as the fans did care!!

Seriously Craig show some consideration to the fans who are supporting you now.

That last sentence is outrageous. Craig is well respected by the majority of fans from his previous clubs and is very popular amongst our fans. That doesn't happen if one shows a lack of consideration to them. You should feel ashamed for not only entertaining such a ridiculous notion but to share such bile is  a very poor showing for someone claiming to be a fan. Don't confuse respect with having a poor attitude. Yesterday Craig had the former, today you have the latter.

Christ!!! my point was aimed at the lack of appreciation to us, in the build up it just seemed more about Cardiff losing than Liverpool winning, I'd always say bellemy gives 100%, my bad for having a voice
 

Terrible thread. The answer is no. He has class and didn't want to rub it in, simple.

fair enough clearly I'm the only one annoyed by it, so be it.

fair enough clearly I'm the only one annoyed by it, so be it.

It's called respect.

And honesty.

Christ!!! my point was aimed at the lack of appreciation to us, in the build up it just seemed more about Cardiff losing than Liverpool winning, I'd always say bellemy gives 100%, my bad for having a voice
 

You have a voice, just the majority of fans strongly disagree with it. If you felt a desperate need to share it then the player thread would have been more apt instead of wasting everyone's time with a thread that a) concerns a relatively small and very subjective issue and b) most fans here disagree on. It's hardly a topic that was going to spring up a well of interesting debate.

Seen this thread on my phone this morning and didn't expect it to survive until I got home from work.

Cares about Cardiff?

Yes.

Cares enough not to try and win a trophy for the club he is currently at?

I seriously doubt it.

Strange bloke Bellamy. I pissed myself laughing when he grabbed the Cardiff player (who was about 6 inches taller) by the collar soon after coming on.

I am sure Craig felt sorry for Cardiff, but was delighted to have won a trophy with Liverpool.

I can see it now The Match against Arsenal, woodsie2b runs on the pitch & pulls Bellamy's hair to reveal Mr Alex Ferguson and he would have got away it with it, if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

Fantasy thread with a fantasy answer.

I can see it now The Match against Arsenal, woodsie2b runs on the pitch & pulls Bellamy's hair to reveal Mr Alex Ferguson and he would have got away it with it, if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

Fantasy thread with a fantasy answer.

Actually I'd like to see woodsie2b running on the pitch and putting this complaint to Craig.

See what response he would get!!

What a moronic thread.

Walks into thread

Walks out of thread!

 After reading through all the posts on this thread I am surprised the thread was not locked after the opening post.Every match Bellamy has played since resigning for us he has given 100% and no one can ask for more than that.

Stop posting on this thread then and let it go ino the abyss 

Stop posting on this thread then and let it go ino the abyss 

Oh the irony.

That's hardly the face of someone who wanted Cardiff to win or didn't want to be part of the winning team.

That's all I want to say on this subject.

Kenny's just told him he has agreed a deal with Cardiff in the summer.

Walks into thread

Walks out of thread!

* beats AussieRed to the door.

* beats AussieRed to the door.

There's a queue lads... Wait your turn nicely..

*Dont need a stamp back in thanks Mr doorman*

If you're a Cardiff lad and supported both Cardiff and Liverpool. Then having the chance to play for both your boyhood clubs and by chance both of your clubs met in a final, what do you expect? Do you expect him to say f**k Cardiff and the fans, I want to crush them? I think he did extremely well that day and he gave 100% commitment.

We got ourselves the top contender for the idiotic thread of this year.

i wouldn't expect him to say f**k Cardiff, I just didn't expect him on most interviews id seen to be going on about not wanting Cardiff to lose, and again I get why he said that, but surly it would have been better to say "as much as I'm wanting to win this with Liverpool its just a shame it comes at Cardiffs expense" maybe with all the work I do, i don't have time to read every article or spend all day ion the internet, so I must have missed these articles.

The lad is entitled to his loyalties as long as he gives 100% every time he is on the pitch and he leaves no room for question on this department. If he wants to celebrate or not is his decision and I full respect him for it, it's out of order to question his loyalty when he's been right up there with our hardest workers every time he gets minutes.

Carra is a known Everton fan, doesn't mean he's open to questioning on every Derby, personally think you should of thought more about the whole surrounding events and drawn conclusions based upon what you've seen on the pitch from Bellers rather than just cast aspersions in his direction, that I feel is out of order.

No!

 

I can understand fully. It hurts me to beat LFC on Fifa during a final and I can imagine how hard it is for him to play against the team he loves. Wouldn't you be sad to prevent our dear LFC from winning a cup?

What a strange thread this!! A player saying he wouldn"t celebrate if he scored against his hometown club! Hardly a new phenomenon this, IT'S THE LEAST I WOULD EXPECT FROM A PLAYER!

Fully understand him not wanting to celebrate, all i'm saying which keeps getting missed is it just seemed that all the interviews i read and watched was about how much he didn't want Cardiff to Lose! I'm not questioning his loyalty to the Reds as he proves this week in week out, I'm just saying that it was starting to annoy me how much he was going on about it.

As for Carra he openly says he was a blue but truly different scenario there, he's as red as Rudolphs nose

I'm surprised at how this thread has gone to be honest, didn't expect this reaction, but suppose thats myy fault for questioning one of our own, not that anyone has done that before

I'm surprised at how this thread has gone to be honest, didn't expect this reaction, but suppose thats myy fault for questioning one of our own, not that anyone has done that before

You weren't expecting to get the piss taken out of you.

Don't know what to laugh at first you taking this so seriously or the point about not having the time for anything cos your soooooooooo busy with work!

Chill lad!!

The man was disappointed he didn"t get the first shout .Obviously if he had scored we wouldn"t expect him to go up to the Cardiff fans and rub their noses in it just to prove his loyalty to some of our fans.

This thread is pointless. Typical  nay sayers. What if,but's or maybe's he said/he didn't say load of sh*te?,Player of the season for me. End of. Good Night.

No.

Questioning the commitment of Bellers is ridiculous anyone who has watched him play will see this is utter bollocks

Should be locked, wouldn't even question his commitment.

Should be locked, wouldn't even question his commitment.

There's a que of members thinking the same thing but obviously the mods think otherwise.   
I'm with you, i too think it should of been locked and deleted within mins of reading it.

No one is questioning his commitment least of all me, but if people actually read what the main point was they would have understood this, instead it seems people have just read the last few posts and jumped on the bandwagon! again I'll make it clear..... Bellemy annoyed me by constantly gong on about how he didn't want Cardiff to lose, I would have preferred him to have said how happy he was to have won it for LFC.