iPhone 5 discussion thread

This a bit of a selfish thread. As some of you may know, my (crap) O2 contract is up, and I'm off to Vodafone.
http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,40299.0.html

I was going to just dive into an 18 month contract with the iPhone 4S. It was going to be a 24 month contract but the 18 month one works out around £100 cheaper. But I digress.

The little lady was have in a 'phone conversation with a friend and it came up that the iPhone 5 is due to set free in October.

This got the little grey cells working, 
... off to Vodafone on a Sim only contract until it's released, this will allow me to assess the reception of Vodafone.

So that's the waffle.

There have been a lot of rumours about this phone.

Just did a search and the Daily Fail published something today! If true this phone may be in my sticky little paws by Christmas.

Apple's new iPhone 5 could be ultraslim thanks to hi-tech 'liquid metal'

  Hi-tech 'liquid metal' alloy could mean new shape for iconic smartphone
  New phone could be delayed until October, claims analyst

Apple's new iPhone 5 could be housed in a little-known hi-tech alloy known as 'liquid metal' - which feels like glass to the touch.
The alloy, a mix of titanium, nickel, copper and zirconium among other metals, is tough, light and scratch resistant, and said to feel as smooth as glass.
But analysts fear that shortages of hi-tech components could mean the device is delayed until October.

A concept of what the new handset might look like designed for MacRumors: Apple's new iPhone 5 could be housed in a little-known hi-tech alloy known as 'liquid metal' - which feels like glass to the touch

Ciccarese Design's 'concept' iPhone 5: The material can be shaped in a process similar to the 'injection moulding', used for plastic which could lead to a rounder, more organic shape for the new handset

The material can be shaped in a process similar to the 'injection moulding', used for plastic which could lead to a rounder, more organic shape for the new handset.
The leak was reported in Korean IT News, which said, 'In the meantime, iPhone5 is likely to take liquid metal, an alloy of zirconium, titanium, nickel, copper and so forth having an outer surface smooth like liquid.'

Korean IT News predicted that the handset would launch in June at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. The design is not finalised - the images here are concept designs made by Ciccarese Design for MacRumors.
Others, though, predict that the new iPhone will launch in October - a year after the last iPhone update, the 4S.

Analyst Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray said that component shortages would lead to the expected summer launch of the new handset being delayed to October.

The news caused Apple's share price to dip by 3.4% according to a report in Bloomberg News.
Apple's iPhone 4S is looking increasingly dated as manufacturers such as HTC bring out phones such as the One X armed with hi-tech components such as quad-core processors.
Sony's Xperia S has a screen resolution far higher than the current iPhone.
Samsung is also said to be on the verge of launching its eagerly awaited Galaxy S3 handset.
'The successor to the Galaxy S2 smartphone will be unveiled at a Samsung-hosted event in the first half of the year, close to commercial availability of the product,' said the Korean electronics giant in a statement.
Technical specifications of the device haven't been released.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2132639/iPhone-5-rumours-Liquid-metal-make-new-Apple-phone-ultraslim.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

God knows how much it will cost, and probably be 4G too.

Looking forward to this, so I'm going to start to save my pennies, and be a trend setter for once.

iPhone 5 Report Suggests a Larger Display and New Dock Connector

iPhone 5 Report Suggests a Larger Display and New Dock Connector

The Liquidmetal iPhone 5 concept might not be real, but there are some substantial next iPhone rumors surfacing today.

The Apple news site iLounge says it has heard from its own sources that the next version of Apple’s phone will have a larger 4-inch screen (the current iPhone has a 3.5-inch display), a metal back, and a new dock connector.

“The new iPhone will indeed be longer and thinner than the iPhone 4 and 4S,” iLounge’s Jeremy Horwitz reports. He also says that it will have a new back; it will have a metal panel but won’t be curved as other reports have suggested.

It is also said that the new phone will use the second generation of Gorilla Glass, the durable glass that covers the current iPhone. Gorilla Glass 2 is thinner, but provides the same protection.

Lastly, iLounge reports that the phone will have a new dock connector, something that has reported previously as well. The new charging port is said to use fewer pins and be smaller.

Apple is expected to release the next iPhone in the second half of the year, perhaps in September, close to a year after the iPhone 4S was released. Apple has not said anything publicly about the next version of its iPhone. Here’s what we do know for sure: there will be a heck of a lot of iPhone 5 rumors before Apple releases the real deal.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/05/iphone-5-report-suggests-a-larger-display-and-new-dock-connector/

New Dock connector, WTF! Does this mean that all the BoomBoxes etc will not connect? Why do this FFS!

Apple ditches Google Maps software in latest iOS

Apple has unveiled its latest mobile operating system, iOS6, at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference.

The operating system, which runs on its iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch devices, will no longer include Google Maps software.

Apple will instead run its own mapping app, which has a high-quality 3D mode, on the platform.

Google announced its own 3D mapping software last week on its competing mobile platform, Android.

Both companies have used fleets of planes to capture the imagery, drawing concerns from some privacy campaigners.

Apple's updated iOS software is being released in beta on Tuesday, and will be available for general consumers by the autumn, chief executive Tim Cook said.

It will be a free update for owners of either an iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS - as well as users of the latest iPad, the iPad 2 and fourth generation iPod touch.

Additional features include "eyes free", a feature on which Apple said it had worked with car manufacturers to integrate a "Siri button" to activate the iPhone's voice-operated assistant.

For the first time on Apple's devices, video calls will be able to be made over a cellular connection, rather than relying on wi-fi or another mobile internet source.

Macbook revamp
The company also announced revamped models in its Macbook Pro and Macbook Air ranges.

Its new Macbook Pro is 0.71 inches thick, with a high-resolution Retina display. It utilises Intel's Ivy Bridge processor.

Its slimline Macbook Air range has also been upgraded with enhanced graphics and processing capabilities.

Both will offer a free upgrade to OS X Mountain Lion, the latest version of the Mac operating system which is set for release in July.

Among its features is enhanced synchronisation between desktop, laptop and mobile, thanks to iCloud, the company's cloud-based storage service.

Once again, predictions that Apple was set to announce a long-rumoured television failed to materialise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18393993

Is this the time for the 5 to be released?

im on pay as you go looking to go contract i was gonna get the iphone4s but best deal i seen was in tesco's im thinking of holding out for the iphone 5 but i heard good things about the samsung galaxy 3 anyone got it?

Apple ditches Google Maps software in latest iOS

Apple has unveiled its latest mobile operating system, iOS6, at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference.

The operating system, which runs on its iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch devices, will no longer include Google Maps software.

Apple will instead run its own mapping app, which has a high-quality 3D mode, on the platform.

Google announced its own 3D mapping software last week on its competing mobile platform, Android.

Both companies have used fleets of planes to capture the imagery, drawing concerns from some privacy campaigners.

Apple's updated iOS software is being released in beta on Tuesday, and will be available for general consumers by the autumn, chief executive Tim Cook said.

It will be a free update for owners of either an iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS - as well as users of the latest iPad, the iPad 2 and fourth generation iPod touch.

Additional features include "eyes free", a feature on which Apple said it had worked with car manufacturers to integrate a "Siri button" to activate the iPhone's voice-operated assistant.

For the first time on Apple's devices, video calls will be able to be made over a cellular connection, rather than relying on wi-fi or another mobile internet source.

Macbook revamp
The company also announced revamped models in its Macbook Pro and Macbook Air ranges.

Its new Macbook Pro is 0.71 inches thick, with a high-resolution Retina display. It utilises Intel's Ivy Bridge processor.

Its slimline Macbook Air range has also been upgraded with enhanced graphics and processing capabilities.

Both will offer a free upgrade to OS X Mountain Lion, the latest version of the Mac operating system which is set for release in July.

Among its features is enhanced synchronisation between desktop, laptop and mobile, thanks to iCloud, the company's cloud-based storage service.

Once again, predictions that Apple was set to announce a long-rumoured television failed to materialise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18393993

Is this the time for the 5 to be released?

Doubt it. I'd expect an announcement some time in Sept/Oct, if I had bought a 4S on a contract within the last month and they announced a new phone I'd be pissed.

im on pay as you go looking to go contract i was gonna get the iphone4s but best deal i seen was in tesco's im thinking of holding out for the iphone 5 but i heard good things about the samsung galaxy 3 anyone got it?

Tesco may have the best deal, but they run off the O2 network.  O2 I think has the "best" coverage, BUT it is full, thus not that good.

I was on O2, went to Vodafone, now they both run off the same transmitters, but the Vodafone service is better.

I now have a signal in places, where I did not have one before. So be careful.

If you have iTunes, and an iPod etc, then I'd stick with Apple, yes it's expensive, but then all the music, video, apps etc will sync.

If you already have an iPhone then you can simply transfer the content of the old one to a new one.

Doubt it. I'd expect an announcement some time in Sept/Oct, if I had bought a 4S on a contract within the last month and they announced a new phone I'd be pissed.

Sept/Oct is Autumn. Isn't it?

I got the 3GS just over 2 years ago, and the next month the 4 was released. But to be honest there is not that much difference, still able to upgrade to the latest OS.

I'm now on a month by month contract, so when the 5 comes out I can easily switch. That's the plan anyway.

£15.50, 300 min, 250mb data, unlimited texts with Vodafone, where as O2 were charging me on Contract (24m) £31.

Pinch of salt may be required, but a Fat Bloke, (seriously), not in a Pub, but in a Vodafone shop tells me it's OCTOBER, (He works there).

They are currently upgrading their masts to 4G.

Pinch of salt may be required, but a Fat Bloke, (seriously), not in a Pub, but in a Vodafone shop tells me it's OCTOBER, (He works there).

They are currently upgrading their masts to 4G.

Nice one my contract runs out in September! Thanks for the info!.

Oh god. Another overrated phone coming out that'll charge an arm and a leg for a phone that does less than an Android.

Let's see what they bring out this time - my guess, a bigger screen that is "revelation" and "innovative" to technology.

Retina display, apparently - like the iPad 3.

I'm pretty sure Samsung have developed better displays in prototype for new Android phones - but what do I know?

Oh god. Another overrated phone coming out that'll charge an arm and a leg for a phone that does less than an Android.

Let's see what they bring out this time - my guess, a bigger screen that is "revelation" and "innovative" to technology.

"Another" overrated 'phone ehh, Are you including the Samsung, HTC, Window's 'phones in that statement, or just having ago at Apple's iPhones?

You may be right, BUT it will not be just a 'phone will it. You pay for what you get. Apple does have great support I have found, always willing to help and advise. Do Samsung etc have their own shops, or do Curry's Comet, Carphone Warehouse know what they are talking about. In my experience they know very little, except the advice, "have you looked on any online forums!"

Can you tell me what the Androids do that the iPhone 5 will not, seeing that we do not know what the iPhone's specs will be.

One thing Androids can do but Iphones can. Use and load widgets on the home screen. Customise the phone in many more ways than you ever can with an Iphone. Flash Support .

I apologise if i was a tad rude in the earlier post, but I just don't see why the iPhone is so special. I really don't.

Foxconn CEO Terry Gou: iPhone 5 Will Destroy The Samsung Galaxy S III

Foxconn Chairman and President Terry Gou didn’t get where he is by mouthing off details about secret products he is building to the press, but according to a new report, he’s just confirmed that the iPhone 5 is coming… and it’ll make the Samsung Galaxy S III look like a hunk of junk. If it didn’t already.


First reported by The China Times, Gou told journalists that he pretty much hated Samsung, and that his life’s goal was to defeat the Korean gadget maker, a company he described as having “a track record of snitching on its competitors.”

What Gou’s talking about is Samsung reporting four Taiwanese companies to the EU during an investigation on price-fixing in the flat panel industry, in order to save its own skin and serve as a “tainted witness.”

As for the iPhone 5, this is the money quote:

Gou also urged consumers to wait for the launch of Apple’s iPhone 5, saying that the new model will put Samsung’s Galaxy III to shame. With Hon Hai’s marketing and manufacturing strengths and Sharp’s key technologies, the two will be able to defeat their arch-rival Samsung, the chairman said.

No doubt about that.

http://www.cultofmac.com/174843/foxconn-ceo-terry-gou-iphone-5-will-destroy-the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/?utm_medium=twit&utm_campaign=spread-us

Wow, that article is like the most solid piece of evidence I have ever seen. There is absolutely no come back.

Because Terry Gou said so. He works for a company that is contracted to Apple and he praises Apple's phones. Jesus, this is a new era of evolution.

Also Terry Gou says he "hates" Samsung so let's be honest, he ain't going to be nice towards them.

One thing Androids can do but Iphones can. Use and load widgets on the home screen. Customise the phone in many more ways than you ever can with an Iphone. Flash Support .

I apologise if i was a tad rude in the earlier post, but I just don't see why the iPhone is so special. I really don't.

Aren't Widgets just another form of App?
I have them on my PC and are now deleted.
And to be honest I'm glad you can't customise the iPhone too much. I've done that with other things and they just get messy.

As for the flash, don't really miss it. I did not know it did not run it until the press got on to it.

Nar, you weren't rude.

Over-rated phone? over-priced?

The iPhone 4 is brilliant and I would be lost without it. I also got it on contract, but cost zero ($0, £0, €0) to buy the phone, and the contract is reasonable.

Wow, that article is like the most solid piece of evidence I have ever seen. There is absolutely no come back.

Because Terry Gou said so. He works for a company that is contracted to Apple and he praises Apple's phones. Jesus, this is a new era of evolution.

Also Terry Gou says he "hates" Samsung so let's be honest, he ain't going to be nice towards them.

But it's on the internet, so it must be true.

To be honest, I feel they are going to be very similar, and that is why they take each other to court every other week.

I never liked the iPhone, and Apple or iTunes, but now I have got my head around how to use the bloody thinks, I have been converted.

As I have a lot of peripherals for my and the wife's iPhone and iPods I am biased, as you are.

A question to be answered is which one will win?

Would you have a Nokia anymore?

Android sucks.

In the last couple of years I have had the Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy SII, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and most recently the Nokia Lumia 800.

The Samsung phones are horrible! The actual phones feels like toy phones you get on the front of a childs magazine and Android was just so dull, I didnt enjoy using them once.

I have to admit the iPhones are limited, and if you arnt going to jail break it, then I wouldn't touch one, but once jail broken (1 minute max) it easily becomes the best phone out there, you basically unlock your phone to do whatever you want with it. Even though I have the Nokia as my main phone now, I can never stay away from my iPhone.

The Nokia I am using at the minute uses Windows Phone 7, which is great, not very well supported at the minute but it is very slick, nicest OS Ive 'felt' on a phone.

But it's on the internet, so it must be true.

To be honest, I feel they are going to be very similar, and that is why they take each other to court every other week.

I never liked the iPhone, and Apple or iTunes, but now I have got my head around how to use the bloody thinks, I have been converted.

As I have a lot of peripherals for my and the wife's iPhone and iPods I am biased, as you are.

A question to be answered is which one will win?

Would you have a Nokia anymore?

No, Nokia is old technology. Their recent phones have excellent spec, but sh*te software.

I'll be honest with you RedPuppy, I have an IPad 3, MacBook air and a home computer MacBook. I love those products and they are simply fantastic.

I just dislike the iPhone and I am of the opinion that Android phones are better than Apple phones.

Happy with the iPhone 4S which I got today with the iPad 3 today at zero cost, loving them both at the moment.

Happy with the iPhone 4S which I got today with the iPad 3 today at zero cost, loving them both at the moment.

Without being nosy. How'd you get them both for free? Anyway, that's a very good buy.

Without being nosy. How'd you get them both for free? Anyway, that's a very good buy.

Without being nosy. How'd you get them both for free? Anyway, that's a very good buy.

Signed a contract basically on a business tariff, monthly payment of £66, no cost for products.

Signed a contract basically on a business tariff, monthly payment of £66, no cost for products.

Ahhh I see mate.

I managed to get a iPad free from work. I've never used it for work though .

I pay £40 a month for the SGS2.

Signed a contract basically on a business tariff, monthly payment of £66, no cost for products.

£792 a year, that's a lot of dosh.

Retina display, apparently - like the iPad 3.

The iPhone's had a retina display for 18 months.

Never liked contracts, Id rather buy the phone as one big sum, then top up when I need.

When I got the Samsung Galaxy SII, I paid £300 for it brand new on Facebook xD then got a simplicity sim card, £15 for unlimited calls, texts and web, and if you dont feel like it one month.. dont top up.

£792 a year, that's a lot of dosh.

Actually screwed them on the minutes for the phone and both products are 32GB 18 month contract,very good deal.

Why are all contracts 18 months these days? Do they still do 12 month ones? I get bored after a couple of months and have to change.

Actually screwed them on the minutes for the phone and both products are 32GB 18 month contract,very good deal.

I'll take your word for it.

Any word on this ? There are a few rumours it could be Sept 17th.

Any word on this ? There are a few rumours it could be Sept 17th.

None that i am aware of, just have to wait.

Event on Sept 12th supposedly. Launch on 21st.

Event on Sept 12th supposedly. Launch on 21st.

Nice if true, and happens, as it is someone's birthday.

I'm always happy with my own phone, until the new iPhone is announced.

Got the 4S, which has been fantastic, until October 2013. Was talking with a mate about how much you'd get for this in resale in order to put towards an iPhone 5 when it comes out. But realistically it's unlikely I could justify throwing a spare £200-300 on a new phone when the one I've got will carry the vast majority of its functions, through the iOS6 update, marginally slower and possibly on a slightly smaller screen.

iPhone5 released today.

But the 12th Sept 2012 is not the day to discuss this.

Link from BBC if you want it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19572820

I am a ex-iphone user and after i lost my iphone 4 (had 2nd, 3rd and 4rth gen iphones). I bought a galaxy s2 9100. Its brilliant and cheap. I was afraid that i am throwing away my money on a samsung phone and i wouldnt like it but i am glad i bought galaxy. Why i am posting this in a iphone thread?

Because iphone is a pretty phone but you can get alot more for the money you are paying to apple. Just a friendly advice.

Ricky Gervais ‏@rickygervais
iPhones are Barbie Dolls for grown men. You carry them round, dress them up in little outfits, accessorise, & get a new one every year.

Prices and tariffs are out now.

16gb is £529, 32gb is £599, 64gb is £699

Cheapest plans are about £33 a month and roughly £100 for the 16gb handset. (24 month that is)

I'm a bit of an Apple fanboy but I don't really see the appeal in this one to be honest. I've an iPhone 4, but this one just seems to be an iPhone4S with a panorama camera. There's nothing that really jumps out at me. Most of the Siri stuff isen't even available in Ireland! FFS we're not that far away from the UK.

The iOS6 update will do for me. It's a shame too cos I was gonna buy this one too. 

Event on Sept 12th supposedly. Launch on 21st.

Wasn't too far off eh

ITK 

Just ...   

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Brilliant.

I reckon Apple could release the exact same phone as the new iPhone and people would still buy it.

Ordered mine yesterday as my contract ran out three weeks ago on orange!. I agree doesn't look to much different, will be interesting to see how much quicker it is with the new chip and by all accounts it is a lot lighter.

The guy from Orange said I should receive it in the next thirty days!, he also said that when the new EE network comes out I would have the opportunity to migrate to that network F.O.C. or stay with Orange. From what I can gather 4G will only run on the EE network. Does anyone know if this is correct?. Cheers

The first iOS6 update is released in about 30 minutes so make sure to back up your phones and other devices now to be all ready for the big update!

Think there's another next week again to coincide with the release of the new iTunes.

Hey Luis, did IOS 6 update and iPhone is a lot quicker and the new maps are good. Also network settings have changed and I am now on EE network. Haven't had the chance to test 3G on the new network but hopefully it will be more widespread as claimed and quicker.

EE network? Do you not have 4G then? Or at least the capability to have it.

I 'only' have the 4 currently so didn't get a lot of the new upgrade features, but I do like the feature that allows the text to a caller if you reject their call.

Well after my enthusiasm, I'm going to wait for my 3Gs to fail. 

I just do not not think it is worth all that money for so few improvements.

Seriously, a slightly bigger screen, and some "maps", Siri, and what else?

Just not worth £600 plus. IMHO 

Go Android or Windows Phone 8 - you can't go wrong.

Apple are sh*te - you're paying for the name. They're using 2 year-old hardware and marketing it as "brand-new". The only thing brand-new about Apple is their retina display, and even that's been bettered by Samsung.

TBH, I'm going Kindle Fire HD. £199 for 32Gb & I'll stay Retro(ish).

Could anyone inform me on what " jail breaking" is?

No offence RP, this is a brilliant update. It looks great which is the least of the upgrades it is a lot lighter so it sits in the pocket and you don't know it's there till it goes off!. The maps are really good,Siri is really easy to use and I have never had Siri before my previous IPhone was the 4 so have never had it. It is really simple to use with the IOS 6. I was dreading transferring all my stuff from the 4 to the 5 but as soon as it was connected to WIFI it did it automatically it took about 4 hours but I think that depends on your Internet speed. I now have all my content on the 5 all in one night. But the most impressive thing for me is the speed of it, I used to have to wait for YouTube videos etc. but now you get no lag. Going the pub later so i will see what 3G is like. There is a new App called Passbook which enables you to download boarding Passes ,tickets ,coupons so you don't need a paper version. All in all very impressive.

Made me chuckle...

Made me chuckle...

Haha! 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

Pretty much the mission statement for these clowns.  The whole company reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Lisa makes her own doll to rival Malibu Stacy and it almost succeeds until she's foiled by the marketing genius that is a new hat.  "But she's got a new hat" they cried.

Made me chuckle...

It's funny 'cause it's true

Any way, I went to the Apple shop in Liverpool One today.

As I have upgraded to iOS6, and now regret it, I asked if there was any way of going back to iOS5, to my surprise, Yes there is. Difficult but possible.

My second question was the new "Passbook" (sorry but what is this for?) has been installed on page one, and I want to move it to page five, i can move it, but when I confirm my move, the iPhone reboots. The reply was, Oh it's (another) iOS6 glitch he said with a dead pan face. I suspected this was not the 1st.

There should be another update out soon RP, along with the new iTunes and I would imagine that a lot of the problems, like that one, will be rectified. Well I hope so anyways. My battery is gone to sh*t since I updated to iOS6.

My 3Gs, has not been affect too much, may be a little slower, but the processor was not built for this OS, TBH I'm surprised that the 3Gs is still supported by this OS.

I think I may go for the 4S 16Gb as the prices are falling. Not too bothered by the screen size as I'm getting the Kindle Fire (7") Size does matter you see.

That's true too mate, I can imagine the iOS6 having a big effect on the 3GS, compared to mine the 4.

The 4S looks like a good shout too because most of the features available on the 4 are available on that too, including the updated Siri.

I want a new iphone 4s case. I have brojken the screen on my phone on a number of occasions and have had a leather case, which closes over and protects the screen, for a few months. It has been working really well for me but the case is falling to pieces. I could just get a new one, the exact same, or another one that will protect the screen as well. Any recommendations?