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      The next Liverpool FC manager?

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      The Kopite91
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      Re: The next Liverpool FC manager?
      Reply #5428: May 30, 2012 03:15:57 pm
      No idea mate. Guess I will just have to wait till it all becomes clearer as their are apparently many different rumours flying round. It is just that the one thing that has helped easy the pain of Kenny going was that FSG had a cunning plan. Just worried now that it was one of Baldricks.



      Think we were all in that boat.

      One thing that we can say is that they have done well to keep this under wraps which is admirable. It feels like the "leaks" and pieces of info we are getting are all almost planted. That we know when FSG want us to know.

      EDIT:

      Here's what Ayre said about the DoF role;

      " "The idea is rather than one person being responsible for all the elements Damien's role took on, we will divide up the responsibilities. We will have a slightly different structure so there will be two or three positions within that."
      Swab
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      Re: The next Liverpool FC manager?
      Reply #5429: May 30, 2012 03:16:33 pm
      14 of the 22 bookies on oddshecker have suspended betting, who knows what the future holds?

      Wouldn't be the first time betting has been suspended only for it to turn out to be a load of cobblers.
      A couple of times with Rafa and his job, and also players joining us spring to mind.

      Means F**k all at the moment.

      Then again JH is used to playing the stock market, so he's probably leaking stuff and making a few quid for himself ;)
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      Reply #5430: May 30, 2012 03:17:22 pm
      From RedCafe

      "Pity - I liked Rodgers and thought he would turn into a great manager. Perhaps he could have been a candidate to replace Fergie. Hope he turns into a complete F**k-up at the scum. "  :lmao:

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      To be fair to the Swans fans, the majority are wishing him the best of luck. Mentioning how it was understandable and impossible to turn down a club like Liverpool.

      Swans fans, classy.

      Hope they get AVB.
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      Re: The next Liverpool FC manager?
      Reply #5431: May 30, 2012 03:18:09 pm
      Geez its a different bloke everytime I come on here. AVB, Martinez, Rodgers, I don't think anyone has a bloody clue. As far as I'm concerned someone is the manager when it says so on the offal until then it's all just media bullshit.
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      Reply #5432: May 30, 2012 03:18:35 pm
      Means F**k all at the moment.

      Not sure about that mate, my minds fu**ed with it all.
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      Reply #5433: May 30, 2012 03:20:29 pm
      At the moment I'd hazard a guess at Fsg interviewing one or two more candidates and then an announcement being made.

      I could be a million miles from the truth, I just don't believe Martinez and Rodgers were our only targets.
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      Reply #5434: May 30, 2012 03:24:01 pm
       Rodgers fractionally drifting on Betfair with Martinez shortening.
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      Reply #5435: May 30, 2012 03:27:07 pm
      I really do hope though fans get behind whomever is manager and give him some time of unquestioning support.

      I loose €47 if its Rodgers, but after doing some research on him and watched some interviews, I actually really want to see him get the job. Strange how fickle I am these last few weeks.
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      Reply #5436: May 30, 2012 03:27:28 pm
      Not sure about that mate, my minds fu**ed with it all.

      I'm not sure what it says about me, but I'm not really bothered about something I have no control over.

      yeah I'd like Rafa back, but whoever the new manager/coach/whatever is will at least make for some interesting conversations, and hopefully bring a decent style of play with them as well as winning ways.

      I don't take much notice of the media, and the bookies are only responding to markets that are fed by the media who mostly know F**k all.

      We'll find out soon enough who it is, and after that our only duty is to get behind the man. Of course that doesn't mean we can't discuss what we might feel his shortcomings are, but to me that's going to take until christmas at least to properly analyse.

      I still have a feeling there is more to come though. I'm not basing that on anything other than the fact no f**ker knows what's going on apart from the parties concerned.
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      Reply #5437: May 30, 2012 03:27:42 pm
      Nickname?


      Buck or Ginger ?
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      Reply #5438: May 30, 2012 03:29:02 pm
      Think we were all in that boat.

      One thing that we can say is that they have done well to keep this under wraps which is admirable. It feels like the "leaks" and pieces of info we are getting are all almost planted. That we know when FSG want us to know.

      EDIT:

      Here's what Ayre said about the DoF role;

      " "The idea is rather than one person being responsible for all the elements Damien's role took on, we will divide up the responsibilities. We will have a slightly different structure so there will be two or three positions within that."

      Yeah mate, that is exactly the structure I thought they were going to implement. Whether that is the structure we will now see introduced I am not so sure. 
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      Reply #5439: May 30, 2012 03:30:12 pm
      Good article from the telegraph which was posted on Jan 13, 2012, I think a lot of our players will love his footballing philosophy, especially Reina. Rafa Benitez used to be very direct with his approach, Rodgers on the other hand, loves to keep the ball and start it from the back.

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      Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers aims to convert long-ball believers

       “This is the crusade,” says Brendan Rodgers. He is out to convert you — yes, you — to the enlightened path, preaching the gospel of tiki-taka in the South Wales valleys.
      By Duncan White

      10:00PM GMT 13 Jan 2012


      His pulpit is a training ground by a health club with one AstroTurf pitch, his church the Liberty Stadium, his flock Swansea City Football Club. Rodgers is the evangelist for the beautiful game. Or, more correctly, the beautiful British game. And his congregation is growing.
       

      On Sunday, Arsenal come to Swansea. Arsène Wenger’s side have long held a monopoly on doing things stylishly in the Premier League. Yet this technical game was thought the preserve of an imported elite.
       

      The lack of British players in the Arsenal side for the past decade was evidence, it was claimed, that these foreign ways were beyond the ken of our honest boys.
       

      Now smaller teams have played good football in the Premier League in the past, but none have done it like Swansea. Despite a modest wage bill, Rodgers has built a side who have impudently dominated possession against their supposed superiors.
       

      “This is our philosophy,” Rodgers said. “I like to control games. I like to be responsible for our own destiny. If you are better than your opponent with the ball you have a 79 per cent chance of winning the game.
       
      "For me it is quite logical. It doesn’t matter how big or small you are, if you don’t have the ball you can’t score.”
       
      Rodgers says he comes “from a different bottle” to the majority of British coaches. Growing up in a village in Antrim, he grew to share his father’s enthusiasm for the great Brazilian and Dutch teams of the Seventies.
       
      When he played for the Northern Ireland youth sides he barely got a touch of the ball — it was always being punted back to the opposition over his head. He had trials with various clubs, including Manchester United shortly after Sir Alex Ferguson took over, but ended up at Reading.
       
      At 20 he quit the game, realising he was not good enough to play at the top level. He did, though, think he could coach there.
       
      “I wanted to make a difference. I went to Spain. I was a big lover of Spanish football and spoke the language. I spent a lot of time at Barcelona, talking and working with coaches, finding out about the model and the philosophy of the club. I’d been to Sevilla, Valencia and Betis.
       
      I also spent time in Holland. It was a sacrifice because I had a young family at the time but I had a real thirst for knowledge. I wanted to be the best I possibly could.”
       
      After coaching in the Reading academy he got his big break in 2004 when Jose Mourinho took him on in his backroom staff at Chelsea.
       
      “I always say that working with Jose was like going to Harvard University,” he said.
       
      While Mourinho’s integrated approach to management was a great influence, Rodgers has his distinctive methods. Pep Guardiola is another who has inspired him and his Swansea team are modelled, in their tactical system, on Barcelona. He even sketches out the tactical system on my notepad.
       
      “My template for everything is organisation. With the ball you have to know the movement patterns, the rotation, the fluidity and positioning of the team. Then there’s our defensive organisation.
       
      "So if it is not going well we have a default mechanism which makes us hard to beat and we can pass our way into the game again. Rest with the ball. Then we’ll build again.
       
      “When we have the football everybody’s a player. The difference with us is that when we have the ball we play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 and a goalkeeper.”
       
      Rodgers was cut up to lose his sweeper-keeper, Dorus de Vries, to Wolves in the summer and he realised he was going to need a very specific replacement. He found Michel Vorm.
       
      “British people had said to me he was too small, which was good for me because it probably meant he was good with his feet. When we got the chance to see him I realised he was perfect. He was 27, humble, and makes saves that a 6ft 5in keeper won’t make because he’s so fast. But, importantly, he can build a game from behind. He understands the lines of pass.”
       
      Rodgers’s claims are supported by the statistics.

      Swansea’s passing percentages are behind only Arsenal and Manchester City. They do play a greater percentage of passes in their own half than any other side in the Premier League but it is all about being patient. To those raised on the orthodoxy of direct football this is baffling stuff.
       
      “People will jump on us whenever we make a mistake. We had it against Manchester United. Angel Rangel had the ball at his feet and the commentary after the game is that he’s got to kick it into row Z.
       
      "He had time on the ball, why would he smash it up the pitch? He just made a mistake. We need to give our players confidence in their ability. To play this way you can have no fear. The players respect that if there are any goals conceded through playing football I take the blame.
       
      “Here’s another example. We were 2-0 up away at Wolves with six minutes to go but we failed to manage the pressure. We stopped playing it out from the back. We kicked the ball long and they got it and just smashed straight back into our box. Eventually we drew 2-2 and the players were devastated.
       
      "I told them we needed to learn the six-minute game.

      “The following week we worked on managing the pressure. But with the ball. Low and behold the next game we are at Bolton. We are 2-0 up. With 17 minutes to go they go 2-1. You could sense the nerves in the crowd.
       
      "How were we going to deal with it? For 10 minutes Bolton did not get a kick of the ball and, eventually, we got the goal to win 3-1.
       
      "Afterwards in the dressing room it was fantastic — that was how to manage pressure. When they had the momentum we sucked the life out of them.
       
      “Our idea is to pass teams to a standstill so they can no longer come after you. Eventually you wear them down. We did that against one of the greatest teams in Tottenham. We did it against Manchester United in the second half. In the first half we were playing the history.
       
      "What I said to them is 'now that you know what shirt you are getting, now can you play our game my friends?’ And they did.”
       
      Yet for all the focus on Swansea’s passing, Rodgers is keen to stress that there is a lot more going on.
       
      “People don’t notice it with us because they always talk about our possession but the intensity of our pressure off the ball is great. If we have one moment of not pressing in the right way at the right time we are dead because we don’t have the best players. What we have is one of the best teams.
       
      “The strength of us is the team. Leo Messi has made it very difficult for players who think they are good players. He’s a real team player. He is ultimately the best player in the world and may go on to become the best ever. But he’s also a team player.
       
      "If you have someone like Messi doing it then I’m sure my friend Nathan Dyer can do it. It is an easy sell.”
       
      Sold? You can make your own mind up on Sunday afternoon whether you want to join the flock.
       

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/9013702/Swansea-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-aims-to-convert-long-ball-believers.html
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      Re: The next Liverpool FC manager?
      Reply #5440: May 30, 2012 03:31:13 pm
      Hows about Swansea manager Euro ?

      Its not official yet. ;)
      The Kopite91
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      Reply #5441: May 30, 2012 03:33:11 pm

      B-Rod :f_whistle:

      Yeah mate, that is exactly the structure I thought they were going to implement. Whether that is the structure we will now see introduced I am not so sure. 

      No one is. It will be very interesting to see.
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      Reply #5442: May 30, 2012 03:34:01 pm
      Fowler's views...


      I love Kenny Dalglish. He was a brilliant player, a brilliant manager, and a brilliant man.

      But football is big business. John Henry and the Fenway Sports Group have put a lot of cash into Liverpool so they can do what they want, really.

      Sacking Kenny certainly wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea. Certainly not mine.

      I like stability at a club. You can’t just keep getting rid of players or managers.

      How long has Alex Ferguson been at Old Trafford? Nobody gets that chance now.

      My old boss, Rafa Benitez, who was an early contender to go back to Anfield, would have learned from his mistakes, and could have done a job there again.

      That said, I know people who have worked with Roberto Martinez and rate him highly. He’s done a fantastic job at Wigan.

      But that in itself worried me. Liverpool is a big club with big standards. Wigan is a little club. And what miffed me or worried me is that, sure, Martinez brought Wigan on a run at the end of the season and they avoided relegation. But what about the 30 games before that?

      For what Brendan Rodgers has achieved at Swansea, he deserves huge respect. He’s worked under Jose Mourinho at Chelsea, so he knows the score and he’s worked with top, top players.

      It’d be a massive step-up for Rodgers to manage Liverpool, if he gets the job, as expected now.

      The new manager will need to bring in new players again to take Liverpool from a top eight club to a top four club. That’s going to be really, really difficult. It’s a massive challenge.

      Because the top four are going to bring in new players too and that gulf increases again.

      Have to say it, right now the 2012/2013 season looks like it’s going to be another difficult one for Liverpool fans.

      Next Liverpool man


      http://blog.paddypower.com/2012/05/30/fowler-exclusive-rodgers-deserves-huge-respec/
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      Reply #5443: May 30, 2012 03:34:25 pm
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9300272/Brendan-Rogers-to-be-confirmed-as-Liverpool-manager-in-next-24-hours-after-talks-with-Swansea.html

      Telegraph are now calling it.

      Thats them and the BBC.

      Its being leaked.






      Brendan Rogers to be confirmed as Liverpool manager in next 24 hours after talks with Swansea

      Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers is meeting with Liverpool this afternoon as they seek to finalise the appointment of Kenny Dalglish's successor.


      By Telegraph Sport

      3:14PM BST 30 May 2012

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      The clubs are currently discussing compensation for the 39 year-old, with Swansea likely to receive a payment of between £4m and £5m.

      Reports had suggested the club were seeking to install a high-profile figure such as Johan Cruyff or Louis van Gaal, as well as a manager, but it appears Rodgers will be in sole control.

      Wigan's Roberto Martinez had been the long-time front-runner for the Anfield job, but Rodgers' recent return from a short trip to New York cast doubt on the theory that a decision had already been made in the Spaniard's favour.

      Rodgers's appointment at Anfield could now be made in the next 24 hours.

      Rodgers, 39, met with Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins at the Liberty Stadium yesterday in what the club claimed was a routine.

      However, Liverpool's interest had not been dampened by an initial rebuff from Rodgers, who had made it clear he did not wish to be part of an extended long list and drawn out process of application and interview and he had remained John Henry, the Liverpool owner's thoughts.

      There has been no official comment from either Liverpool or Swansea but once the formalities have been concluded the Northern Irishman is set to be unveiled as Dalglish's successor this week.


            

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      Re: The next Liverpool FC manager?
      Reply #5444: May 30, 2012 03:35:32 pm
      I can live with Rodgers if he is the man. Does anyone know if Clarke is still at the club or not? Maybe he'd stay.
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      Reply #5445: May 30, 2012 03:36:24 pm
      It says on goal com (I know...) that Damien's role is gonna be divided into 3:

      talkaloadofbull.com understands Liverpool’s groundbreaking plan is to employ one executive to oversee statistics, another whose role will be to conduct negotiations and a third ‘football man’ with contacts within the game.

      I want the job with the statistics! :(
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      Reply #5446: May 30, 2012 03:36:53 pm
      cant believe this! Rodgers to be lfc manager comes next season!(bbc sport) gosh! No need to be negative about this,but alas,lfc the mighty one has to go and get a manager from a mid-table club! Would rather had to stuck with the King,than this guy! No reason to be optimistic comes august! YNWA!
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      Reply #5447: May 30, 2012 03:38:03 pm

       I was always partial to Roy Rogers myself, yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker.
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      Reply #5448: May 30, 2012 03:39:21 pm

      Maybe by FSG to gauge opinion before making the appointment?


      Ted? Although I am not keen on his formation...... 3-2-1
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      Reply #5449: May 30, 2012 03:40:43 pm
      cant believe this! Rodgers to be lfc manager comes next season!(bbc sport) gosh! No need to be negative about this,but alas,lfc the mighty one has to go and get a manager from a mid-table club! Would rather had to stuck with the King,than this guy! No reason to be optimistic comes august! YNWA!

      Correct me if I'm wrong but when Barcelona finished 6th in 2003 they got Rijkaard in who had just been relegated in Germany (Think it was Germany?). Suppose they've done ok since?
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      Reply #5450: May 30, 2012 03:42:25 pm
      Correct me if I'm wrong but when Barcelona finished 6th in 2003 they got Rijkaard in who had just been relegated in Germany (Think it was Germany?). Suppose they've done ok since?

      Yep not to mention, Klopp, Benitez, Di Matteo also had teams relegated. Not done too bad since eh.

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