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      Reply #25300: Mar 18, 2015 09:06:37 pm
      We are achieving great things, i'm going to put this in a nutshell, sometimes a player will become available that will be the difference between winning a trophy or more, if we don't compete financially for these players that are in form then we lose that silverware forever.
      Stingbag owners but some applaud them for just appointing Brendan. Great move and he has done wonders but if they don't give him his prime targets even Brendan will leave LFC.
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      Reply #25301: Mar 21, 2015 01:13:17 pm
      Very good read this, gives a good insight into Brendans methods for "educating" players rather than just training them. 

      The last paragraph I've been worrying about for a while.  No I don't think he's even thinking about where to go after Liverpool, he's ambitious but what better achievement is there than winning the Title with Liverpool.  Something which hasn't happened in over 25 years.  So far he's said that only one player has left the Club that he didn't want to leave, I'm guessing he means Luis or maybe Stevie but with the seeming contract issues for a few players, how long will he be willing to stay if his best or potentially best players are allowed to leave.  How frustrating will it be for him that despite the hard work he's putting in to get the Club where the Owners want us to be, they (or the Board) keep pulling the rug out from under his feet?

      By Matt Dickinson.

      Sacked in the morning.  As Liverpool lost 3-0 at Manchester United in December, that taunt went beyond mocking supporters.  Brendan Rodgers was coming under fire from all quarters after what seemed a troubling retreat from the thrilling, title-chasing campaign last season.  Liverpool limped away from Old Trafford in tenth place, ten points behind United.  Rodgers talked afterwards of the massive job on his hands.  “We’re looking to build a team again,” he explained.  He talked of searching for solutions “to recapture the team ethos”.

      Fast forward to this week and United still sit above Liverpool as the rivals meet at Anfield but only by two points and now it is Louis van Gaal casting around for a coherent plan.

      Liverpool’s turnaround from those difficult days has been very impressive and arguably an even more admirable indication of Rodgers’ coaching abilities than the Luis SuĂĄrez-led charge the year before.  This is how he did it.

      Have a vision — but do not be afraid to change it.

      Every senior member of the Liverpool staff has a copy of the 180-page One Vision, One Club dossier that he built up over 15 years and presented to the club’s owners at his job interview.  It contains the building blocks of a modern club, an attacking team.  There are sections on behaviour, strategies, player development from nine years old to Internationals.  A chapter too, on the “integrated education of the footballer — moral, intellectual, physical”.  The irony is that all the tactical drawings, covering every possible eventuality, are for 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 with diamond that were the bedrocks of Rodgers’ early career — yet it is 3-4-3 that has got him out of a hole.

      That shows a willingness to adapt, because Rodgers admits that he stumbled across the solution.  It took several bits to piece together and one came on one of Liverpool’s worst nights, the limp 1-0 defeat away to Basle in October.  Basle had started with 4-5-1 but when injury forced a reshuffle after nine minutes, they ended up closer to 3-4-3.  As Liverpool laboured, Rodgers began to acknowledge how the oppositions system was so difficult to counter.  It would get much worse before it got better for Liverpool, but there was a germ of an idea in Rodgers’s head.

      You will make mistakes — but act on them.

      It always did seem too much of a risk signing Mario Balotelli, even if Liverpool were desperate.  They had missed out on Alexis SĂĄnchez who, after making positive noises about playing as a central striker for Rodgers, listened to his wife’s preference to swap Barcelona for London.  A surgeon refused to approve LoĂŻc RĂŠmy’s transfer from Queens Park Rangers.  With Daniel Sturridge injured, Rodgers urgently needed another forward.  Some at Anfield warned that Balotelli was too much trouble but Rodgers had previously shown good work with misfits and rejects.  He puts great store in individual sessions with players, and psychology.  At Swansea City, he employed a neurologist.  At Liverpool, Dr Steve Peters visits twice a week and speaks to many players via Skype on other days.
      Rodgers believes that he can get into players’ minds and he spent three and a half hours with Balotelli and his agent before the contract was signed.  He gave the Italian the address that every Liverpool player knows by heart about the CORE values: Commitment, Ownership, Responsibility, Excellence.

      Commitment?

      Rodgers tells them that motivation is not enough because it fluctuates.  Would you want a heart surgeon less motivated for his fifth operation of the day, than the first?

      Ownership?

      Each player has his own plan, his targets.  For Jordan Henderson, it may be becoming the best English midfielder in the country; Sturridge one of the most consistent scorers in Europe.

      Responsibility?

      Rodgers draws a stick man with a crown on its head. You are king of your own destiny.  He tells them how, injured at 20, he had to shape his way as a coach.  As for Excellence, that should speak for itself.

      There are those who will regard this all as a bit management-speak but Rodgers is serious and sincere about developing people, not just footballers.  He thought Balotelli had got the message. He was wrong but a big part of effective management is acknowledging mistakes. 

      It all comes back to hard work.

      Rodgers’ style is associated with possession-based adventure but it is nothing without pressing and that has to start from the front.  SuĂĄrez and Sturridge were relentless but Balotelli could not, or would not, do it.  As the team lost their intensity, they were dropping deeper and deeper. The defence was creaking under the strain.  Sometimes you just have to admit your mistakes and the sooner the better.  Balotelli started eight Premier League games up to early November, he has not started any since.  Already his camp are looking for his next move, perhaps to Turkey but Rodgers had to work out a team without a centre forward.

      There is always a solution.

      The 3-1 defeat away to Crystal Palace on November 23 was the nadir.  To lose was bad enough but Rodgers did not recognise his team.  It hurt a manager who prides himself on a recognisable style that, to avoid a full-blown crisis, he had to prioritise avoiding defeat, cramming his team with experience, arresting the slump.  With little time on the training ground between Champions League fixtures, Rodgers locked himself away for hours in his office and called long meetings with staff.  There were sleepless nights, 3am sessions with tea, toast and a tactics board.  There was no eureka moment but 3-4-3 kept playing in his head.  Basle had used it to great effect. One experiment at Newcastle United had ended in defeat but glimpses of encouragement.  The more Rodgers looked, it seemed the way to put his best players on the pitch.  Sterling could press through the middle and while Rodgers did not seem blessed with central defenders, he could call on Emre Can.

      Rodgers had seen Can play at centre half and even full back for Bayer Leverkusen.  A book on his shelf about Pep Guardiola revealed Can had dropped back for Bayern Munich’s junior teams.  The more he looked, 3-4-3 appealed.  Defeat away to United with that system went down as a heavy loss but in fact, for 70 minutes Liverpool had looked confident again in possession.  Rodgers had his solution.

      English footballers can be top class — they just need help with tactics.

      Henderson was told that he could leave for Fulham in Rodgers’ first summer if he wanted guaranteed football.  The player said he would stay if Rodgers could make him a better footballer.  His considerable improvement is tribute to both.  The main improvement has been tactical, the missing piece for many English players according to Rodgers.

      Intriguingly, he has overhauled the entire calendar for Liverpool’s academy, the 9 to 16 year olds, to reduce work in December and January and extend the season from May until schools break up in July because better weather is more suitable to tactical sessions, not just running around to stay warm.

      The academy matters because Rodgers has told the Liverpool board that he always wants a core of British players.  Part of him enjoys confounding the belief that they are in such short supply.  He believes his pressing game, hunt and suffocate, is perfectly suited to British culture, allowing players to express physicality but in a controlled, effective, intelligent way.  Henderson is not the only example, Jordan Ibe has shown huge promise, amongst others but he epitomises individual improvement through coaching.

      Job satisfaction.

      For a man once turned down by Leicester City, who preferred Gary Megson as their manager, Rodgers’ career is on a rapid, upward trajectory but recent gains have come against a backdrop of personal tragedy and upheaval.  In the last few years he has lost both his parents to cancer, been through a divorce and endured two trials at the Old Bailey where his son, Anton, was cleared of sexual assault.  He has maintained his focus and his ability to improve players and teams will lead the FA to come calling soon enough offering the England job.  Rodgers will be tempted one day but it is far too soon for him to consider an International career.  Manchester City may show interest, while Arsenal will surely have him high on their post Arsène Wenger list but Rodgers regards winning the title with Liverpool as the ultimate challenge of his coaching calibre.  Expect him to stay, at least for as long as he believes it is possible.
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      Reply #25302: Mar 21, 2015 01:59:20 pm
      Wow, great read Debs, thanks for posting that.

      Always love to see insight that's not readily available from observation.

      More and more he continues to sound like the right man for this job. Admit I've had my doubts at time but he's always made me forget them.
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      Reply #25303: Mar 21, 2015 02:20:14 pm
      Wow, great read Debs, thanks for posting that.

      Always love to see insight that's not readily available from observation.

      More and more he continues to sound like the right man for this job. Admit I've had my doubts at time but he's always made me forget them.

      He certainly understands the ethics of the Club mate and I agree, it's great to get an insight into the thinking behind the methods.
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      Reply #25304: Mar 21, 2015 02:31:07 pm
      He certainly understands the ethics of the Club mate and I agree, it's great to get an insight into the thinking behind the methods.

      Very impressed with his tenacity, which he has shown time and again, from the premature end to his playing career and rebuilding his life for a career in management, right through to those late night sessions to fix our problems this season.

      An impressive fella. Shiny teeth and all ;)
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      Reply #25305: Mar 21, 2015 02:46:32 pm
      Very impressed with his tenacity, which he has shown time and again, from the premature end to his playing career and rebuilding his life for a career in management, right through to those late night sessions to fix our problems this season.

      An impressive fella. Shiny teeth and all ;)

      Same here mate.  I just hope we get to see the end result of many trophies and a Title or two with him at the helm. 
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      Reply #25306: Mar 22, 2015 09:09:27 am
      Very good read this, gives a good insight into Brendans methods for "educating" players rather than just training them. 

      The last paragraph I've been worrying about for a while.  No I don't think he's even thinking about where to go after Liverpool, he's ambitious but what better achievement is there than winning the Title with Liverpool.  Something which hasn't happened in over 25 years.  So far he's said that only one player has left the Club that he didn't want to leave, I'm guessing he means Luis or maybe Stevie but with the seeming contract issues for a few players, how long will he be willing to stay if his best or potentially best players are allowed to leave.  How frustrating will it be for him that despite the hard work he's putting in to get the Club where the Owners want us to be, they (or the Board) keep pulling the rug out from under his feet?

      By Matt Dickinson.

      Sacked in the morning.  As Liverpool lost 3-0 at Manchester United in December, that taunt went beyond mocking supporters.  Brendan Rodgers was coming under fire from all quarters after what seemed a troubling retreat from the thrilling, title-chasing campaign last season.  Liverpool limped away from Old Trafford in tenth place, ten points behind United.  Rodgers talked afterwards of the massive job on his hands.  “We’re looking to build a team again,” he explained.  He talked of searching for solutions “to recapture the team ethos”.

      Fast forward to this week and United still sit above Liverpool as the rivals meet at Anfield but only by two points and now it is Louis van Gaal casting around for a coherent plan.

      Liverpool’s turnaround from those difficult days has been very impressive and arguably an even more admirable indication of Rodgers’ coaching abilities than the Luis SuĂĄrez-led charge the year before.  This is how he did it.

      Have a vision — but do not be afraid to change it.

      Every senior member of the Liverpool staff has a copy of the 180-page One Vision, One Club dossier that he built up over 15 years and presented to the club’s owners at his job interview.  It contains the building blocks of a modern club, an attacking team.  There are sections on behaviour, strategies, player development from nine years old to Internationals.  A chapter too, on the “integrated education of the footballer — moral, intellectual, physical”.  The irony is that all the tactical drawings, covering every possible eventuality, are for 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 with diamond that were the bedrocks of Rodgers’ early career — yet it is 3-4-3 that has got him out of a hole.

      That shows a willingness to adapt, because Rodgers admits that he stumbled across the solution.  It took several bits to piece together and one came on one of Liverpool’s worst nights, the limp 1-0 defeat away to Basle in October.  Basle had started with 4-5-1 but when injury forced a reshuffle after nine minutes, they ended up closer to 3-4-3.  As Liverpool laboured, Rodgers began to acknowledge how the oppositions system was so difficult to counter.  It would get much worse before it got better for Liverpool, but there was a germ of an idea in Rodgers’s head.

      You will make mistakes — but act on them.

      It always did seem too much of a risk signing Mario Balotelli, even if Liverpool were desperate.  They had missed out on Alexis SĂĄnchez who, after making positive noises about playing as a central striker for Rodgers, listened to his wife’s preference to swap Barcelona for London.  A surgeon refused to approve LoĂŻc RĂŠmy’s transfer from Queens Park Rangers.  With Daniel Sturridge injured, Rodgers urgently needed another forward.  Some at Anfield warned that Balotelli was too much trouble but Rodgers had previously shown good work with misfits and rejects.  He puts great store in individual sessions with players, and psychology.  At Swansea City, he employed a neurologist.  At Liverpool, Dr Steve Peters visits twice a week and speaks to many players via Skype on other days.
      Rodgers believes that he can get into players’ minds and he spent three and a half hours with Balotelli and his agent before the contract was signed.  He gave the Italian the address that every Liverpool player knows by heart about the CORE values: Commitment, Ownership, Responsibility, Excellence.

      Commitment?

      Rodgers tells them that motivation is not enough because it fluctuates.  Would you want a heart surgeon less motivated for his fifth operation of the day, than the first?

      Ownership?

      Each player has his own plan, his targets.  For Jordan Henderson, it may be becoming the best English midfielder in the country; Sturridge one of the most consistent scorers in Europe.

      Responsibility?

      Rodgers draws a stick man with a crown on its head. You are king of your own destiny.  He tells them how, injured at 20, he had to shape his way as a coach.  As for Excellence, that should speak for itself.

      There are those who will regard this all as a bit management-speak but Rodgers is serious and sincere about developing people, not just footballers.  He thought Balotelli had got the message. He was wrong but a big part of effective management is acknowledging mistakes. 

      It all comes back to hard work.

      Rodgers’ style is associated with possession-based adventure but it is nothing without pressing and that has to start from the front.  SuĂĄrez and Sturridge were relentless but Balotelli could not, or would not, do it.  As the team lost their intensity, they were dropping deeper and deeper. The defence was creaking under the strain.  Sometimes you just have to admit your mistakes and the sooner the better.  Balotelli started eight Premier League games up to early November, he has not started any since.  Already his camp are looking for his next move, perhaps to Turkey but Rodgers had to work out a team without a centre forward.

      There is always a solution.

      The 3-1 defeat away to Crystal Palace on November 23 was the nadir.  To lose was bad enough but Rodgers did not recognise his team.  It hurt a manager who prides himself on a recognisable style that, to avoid a full-blown crisis, he had to prioritise avoiding defeat, cramming his team with experience, arresting the slump.  With little time on the training ground between Champions League fixtures, Rodgers locked himself away for hours in his office and called long meetings with staff.  There were sleepless nights, 3am sessions with tea, toast and a tactics board.  There was no eureka moment but 3-4-3 kept playing in his head.  Basle had used it to great effect. One experiment at Newcastle United had ended in defeat but glimpses of encouragement.  The more Rodgers looked, it seemed the way to put his best players on the pitch.  Sterling could press through the middle and while Rodgers did not seem blessed with central defenders, he could call on Emre Can.

      Rodgers had seen Can play at centre half and even full back for Bayer Leverkusen.  A book on his shelf about Pep Guardiola revealed Can had dropped back for Bayern Munich’s junior teams.  The more he looked, 3-4-3 appealed.  Defeat away to United with that system went down as a heavy loss but in fact, for 70 minutes Liverpool had looked confident again in possession.  Rodgers had his solution.

      English footballers can be top class — they just need help with tactics.

      Henderson was told that he could leave for Fulham in Rodgers’ first summer if he wanted guaranteed football.  The player said he would stay if Rodgers could make him a better footballer.  His considerable improvement is tribute to both.  The main improvement has been tactical, the missing piece for many English players according to Rodgers.

      Intriguingly, he has overhauled the entire calendar for Liverpool’s academy, the 9 to 16 year olds, to reduce work in December and January and extend the season from May until schools break up in July because better weather is more suitable to tactical sessions, not just running around to stay warm.

      The academy matters because Rodgers has told the Liverpool board that he always wants a core of British players.  Part of him enjoys confounding the belief that they are in such short supply.  He believes his pressing game, hunt and suffocate, is perfectly suited to British culture, allowing players to express physicality but in a controlled, effective, intelligent way.  Henderson is not the only example, Jordan Ibe has shown huge promise, amongst others but he epitomises individual improvement through coaching.

      Job satisfaction.

      For a man once turned down by Leicester City, who preferred Gary Megson as their manager, Rodgers’ career is on a rapid, upward trajectory but recent gains have come against a backdrop of personal tragedy and upheaval.  In the last few years he has lost both his parents to cancer, been through a divorce and endured two trials at the Old Bailey where his son, Anton, was cleared of sexual assault.  He has maintained his focus and his ability to improve players and teams will lead the FA to come calling soon enough offering the England job.  Rodgers will be tempted one day but it is far too soon for him to consider an International career.  Manchester City may show interest, while Arsenal will surely have him high on their post Arsène Wenger list but Rodgers regards winning the title with Liverpool as the ultimate challenge of his coaching calibre.  Expect him to stay, at least for as long as he believes it is possible.


      Great read that, thanks Debs,

      I don't know about you guys out there but I feel there is something special in our Brendan, he's like a breath of fresh air in a hot sweaty claustrophobic room,

      He differs from other mangers in that he is willing to give untried methods a go , some may work some won't, but he has the gonads to try,

      In, "red or dead" Shanks brought on a different approach to, he introduced a training box where he had players kicking balls against wooden walls, something he seen the great Tom Finney do as a training excersize,

      Back in those days training was running around the perimeter of the pitch,

      Not just that tho, he's willing to adapt systems that suit individuals to get the optimum effort, his latest challenge is Balotelli, let's face it it hasn't worked thus far has it ?

      But I don't think Brendan has given up on Mario, not just yet anyhow, I think Brendan can still find a solution for him, but Mario has to want to adapt himself and perhaps that's being worked at right now,

      Anyhoo,
      Brendan for me given enough time will deliver, what's good about his philosophy is he has learnt from some great managers he's worked under, seen things he can draw on and implement his own ideas,

      Look at us, look at how young our team is, yet the experience they have already is starting to show it's fruits, apart from Ste & Glen our oldest is only 26,
      He has already introduced Jordan Ibe to the first team at 19,

      With plenty similar talented lads behind him, Rossiter, Wilson, Brannagan, Ojo, Sinclair, Canos etc

      Brendan I hope is here for decades, he gets us, he knows how important our history is to us and wants to return us to the glory years, and I think he can, only time will tell of course but I think we have a very bright future, winning this seasons FA cup will do for starters.

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      Reply #25307: Mar 22, 2015 09:16:22 am
      In Brendan i trust more than ever.He and the lads will get us the victory today.
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      Reply #25308: Mar 23, 2015 01:23:40 am
      Brendan needs get right players in these summer with no top 4 going be even harder get players l think he get one more season to try put right or he gone
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      Reply #25309: Mar 23, 2015 01:26:02 am
      Terrible sub choices today but it's easy for me in hindsight... even in real sight they looked fu**ed up to F**k. wtf?
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      Reply #25310: Mar 23, 2015 01:58:54 am
      Well he keep playing Joe Allen next season he should be sack please Brendan buy top midfield in summer --
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      Reply #25311: Mar 23, 2015 02:04:52 am
      Brendan needs get right players in these summer with no top 4 going be even harder get players l think he get one more season to try put right or he gone

      he's brought in the wrong players basically every summer he has been here.

      if he's not been held responsible for it then, why should he be held responsible for it now?
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      Reply #25312: Mar 23, 2015 09:33:31 am
      he will learn from it as he got his tactics and team selection completley wrong for that one, the team we had 2nd half should have started the game i think DS is not a single striker and needs someone close to him to get the best out of him.
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      Reply #25313: Mar 23, 2015 11:07:36 am
      Needs to freshen things as he has a habit of playing the same formation irrespective of the opponent, unfortunately our first team or gameplay is not quite at the level of Barca for us to be able to get away with it.

      We have become predictable and too easy to play against, once you have been found out like against Swansea and United and even Blackburn tactics need tweaking to keep the oposition guessing.

      Hopefully the change is sooner rather than later.
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      Reply #25314: Mar 23, 2015 08:06:01 pm
      I'm frustrated and i know there is a lot frustrated but we have to remember this is the first time we have lost in more than 3 months. 13 games undefeated till those cu*ts, our stupidity and that c**t of a Ref wrecked our record. So I'm not gonna be too harsh on Brendan.

      Let's go 10 more games unbeaten and see where it leaves us.
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      Reply #25315: Mar 24, 2015 03:09:41 pm
      Brendan needs get right players in these summer with no top 4 going be even harder get players l think he get one more season to try put right or he gone

       :lmao: If we don't make top 4 he should go, end of story. Why another season ? Lost 2 times against United, couldn't win against Everton, knocked out by Basel and Besiktas, spent over 100 million in the summer on rubbish players, what gives him the right to stay for another season ? I hoped that things will improve, but against Man Utd he showed yet again he can't manage crucial games, he learned nothing from the games against Besiktas and Basel. He isn't fit for a team who wants glory and trophies, he's Spurs level at best.
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      Reply #25316: Mar 24, 2015 04:05:40 pm
      :lmao: If we don't make top 4 he should go, end of story. Why another season ? Lost 2 times against United, couldn't win against Everton, knocked out by Basel and Besiktas, spent over 100 million in the summer on rubbish players, what gives him the right to stay for another season ? I hoped that things will improve, but against Man Utd he showed yet again he can't manage crucial games, he learned nothing from the games against Besiktas and Basel. He isn't fit for a team who wants glory and trophies, he's Spurs level at best.

      Trust you to rear your head after a loss........... Plank.

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      Reply #25317: Mar 24, 2015 08:14:11 pm
      Have to admit I've had a complete football black out the last few days, it's my way of trying to forget when bad things happen. My moods towards football go from passivity to depression where I ask myself what is the point in the Premier League when only the richest clubs get the silverware, and the only emphasis is on money rather than hard work and innovation. My love for the club doesn't die, but my faith in the modern day sport seriously takes a battering when dark moments occur like on Sunday.

      I'm gutted - Martin Atkinson may have been the self centred pr**k he always is, but being brutally honest, they thoroughly deserved the win with or without the ref.

      I'm worried about our fitness levels - we haven't looked sharp since the Burnley game, and the games may have caught up with us.

      Which worries me for next season if we are to compete in any form of Europe.

      With the Premier League being such a physically demanding league with all the rough and tumble and running involved, in addition to our preference for a high pressing game, are we at risk of burning out more than, say, a team in La Liga or Bundesliga where the competition and physicality isn't as intense? I worry the likes of Munich, Dortmund, Barca and Madrid can play the style of intense high pressing all season given the relative lack of competition and physicality, while it is going to cost a team in the latter stages of a campaign who uses these methods in the very demanding Premier League.

      The struggle for adapting to different tactics may be taking its toll on us, which is why I am a massive advocate of promoting youth players. Given the fact that they are well versed in the clubs coaching methods and tactics from such a young age, it's a no brainer that the adaptation process will be like water off a ducks back for the young lads who are promoted. The methods and practices of the club will be second nature to promoted youth players - just look at Sterling and Ibe, whose promotion through the ranks have been seamless and Ibe in particular has looked far more impressive than the majority of our signings. Some players take YEARS to adapt to a new club, so we can't afford to keep buying expensive youngsters who have been coached with different methods at different clubs with completely different cultures. We don't have the time to do that considering where our rivals are. Of course, we need the players to be talented, but given our current crop are just that, we can not afford to let them go to waste. It takes a lot of hard work on behalf of the player himself to make the grade, but if they are talented, then they MUST be given a chance.

      Quite simply, we will get nowhere until we start promoting highly talented youth from the Academy. The answer to our shortcomings are closer than we think - it's up to the club and the coaches to make sure it's imperative that we maintain progressive and forward thinking ideas in regards to youth and aim for a quality squad which has a strong backbone of self-produced talent.
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      Reply #25318: Mar 24, 2015 11:18:24 pm
      Bottom line is, he likely sets his tactics out, to better, what he thinks the opposition tactics will likely be. On sunday he got it wrong, but the big worry for me, is that it was so evident that we were wanting from the start. Why didn't Brendan change it at 15 mins. or so. Not brave enough ? not sure? to proud ? Didn't see a problem ? who knows. whatever the case, he won't be the last to go tits up on tactics. The main thing is, will he learn from it ? and how much is it gonna cost us. ?
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #25319: Mar 25, 2015 01:00:54 pm
      I'm a big Rodgers fan but looking at his signings doesn't fill me with confidence leading up to a summer where we need to add a couple of new faces. In less than three years Rodgers has spent roughly ÂŁ212.75m on his players. Forgetting net spend for a second, that is A LOT of money to spend on our squad. We should have far more quality than what we do at the moment. Lets have a look at the players Rodgers has brought in:

      Borini  10.4m   
      Allen  15m 
      Assaidi  2.4m   
      Sahin  Loan 
      Yesil  1m
      Sturridge  12m 
      Coutinho  8.6m
      Alberto  6.8m
      Aspas  7.5m
      Mignolet  10m
      Toure  Free 
      Cissokho  Loan   
      Ilori  7m
      Sakho  15m
      Moses Loan   
      Lambert 4.5m
      Lallana  25m
      Can   9.75m
      Markovic  19.8m 
      Lovren  20m
      Origi  10m
      Manquillo  loan 
      Moreno  12m
      Balotelli  16m

      So our best 11 (of just Rodgers signings) looks something like this:

                                Mignolet
       Manquillo       Lovren     Sakho     Moreno

                           Can         Allen
            Markovic       Coutinho       Lallana
                                Sturridge

      Others:  Balotelli, Origi, Borini, Aspas, Alberto, Lambert, Ilori, Toure.

      Is the squad above good enough to win the league? Is it even good enough to finish inside the top four?

      Its very noticeable to me in the team above that we are missing key players such as Gerrard, Lucas, Skrtel, Ibe and Sterling. You could even include Flanagan. If these six players are fully fit then they would all probably walk into our first 11. That's more than half a team which is quite concerning considering the money we have spent on new players. Flanno, Ibe and Sterling in particular have bailed Rodgers out in a way. Three young kids who have played exceptionally well. If they hadn't performed as well for us then maybe more focus and annoyance would have turned towards Rodgers and the signings he has made. It has been brushed under the carpet a little bit I think.

      Whether we finish in the top 4 or not this season our summer dealings are still crucial.  Quality over quantity is an absolute must.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #25320: Mar 25, 2015 01:35:23 pm
      Why forget nett spend, the press and pundits battered rafa with that stick all the time.

      What is the nett spend for Brendan, it does matter.

      All clubs go through hunners of players, and always have, only diff. now is the money is stupidly different, the prices are not the managers fault, its just the stupid world we live in due to how much money is in the top leagues now.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #25321: Mar 25, 2015 01:36:05 pm
      Three young kids who have played exceptionally well. If they hadn't performed as well for us then maybe more focus and annoyance would have turned towards Rodgers and the signings he has made. It has been brushed under the carpet a little bit I think.
      A few interesting points there HTM: 'the signings Rodgers made' and 'brushed under the carpet', in particular.

      You are right (in a round about way); some thing has been brushed under the carpet, time and time again. That is: the remit the committee or Brendan (as you seem to prefer) has been working to.

      I don't know why, for sure, anyone could talk about transfers yet ignore (or "brush under the carpet") the fact that transfer policy has been dictated from above. Just as I don't know why anyone could profess loyalty or "love" for Brendan yet ignore what he has been saying he needs.

      Company Policy
      "The model here at the football club is clear in terms of the owners want to bring in young players in order to develop and create them into world class players...

      ... not every player can be a developer."


      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-needs-marquee-signing-8378712

      Now given that we fans, Brendan and (we're told), the owners, accept that "not every player can be a developer" and, by default, some money is going to be "wasted" - it's a bit unfair (in my opinion) to lay blame at the feet of anyone other than those who dictate policy. Only they can change that.

      However, all is not lost: the owners are aware of the situation and hopefully they will change their stance, come June. Fingers crossed; eh?
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #25322: Mar 25, 2015 09:27:30 pm
      Our man...back in the day of course.  ;)


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