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      Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)

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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2220: Jul 20, 2016 10:23:28 pm
      There would be a fair few players I'd have out the door ahead of Joe. Bit surprised we're letting him go, but he probably wants first team footy, and if off I guess Klopp doesn't fancy him and he knows it. I don't have any problem with Joe Allen, a good lad, works hard, and can play a bit. Maybe a bit small for Klopp though, we're heading for a team of big strong lads..
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2221: Jul 20, 2016 10:45:10 pm
      Meh.  No great loss.

      Henderson gone next please.

      I reckon someone would buy Henderson for 25m. Would be very happy to sell him
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2222: Jul 20, 2016 11:34:31 pm
      Kloopp on Allen rumours:

      Jürgen Klopp would not be drawn on the futures of Joe Allen and Jon Flanagan following Liverpool’s pre-season friendly win over Huddersfield Town.

      The ECHO understands that both players could leave the club in the next few days. Allen is the subject of a £13m bid from Stoke City, while Flanagan is weighing up a possible season-long loan to Premier League newboys Burnley.

      But when asked about the pair after the game at the John Smith’s Stadium, Klopp was coy.

      “There is nothing about this and all the transfer rumours,” he said. “We cannot comment because we couldn’t do anything else all day if we did, so we shouldn’t start with this."

      “I feel good (about Joe). I like the guy and I really think he is a wonderful football player: I knew this before the European Championships, I saw it during the Euros and I know it now.

      “I have said all I can say about this. It is all about respecting contracts, negotiating or not - whatever - and make a transfer or not.

      “But is it nothing to discuss in public but I’ve not seen him since the middle of May in Basel, sadly.”
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2223: Jul 21, 2016 12:22:13 am
      Is it confirm?  ???
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2224: Jul 21, 2016 12:28:28 am
      Guardian reporting we've accepted a bid of £13m from Stoke.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2225: Jul 21, 2016 12:57:37 am
      i hope its not true
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2226: Jul 21, 2016 01:11:27 am
      Lets hope, he drives me up the wall.

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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2227: Jul 25, 2016 09:00:37 pm
      Good luck to little Joe. A player I think I may admire more now that he's moved on. I'm sure he will get Stoke ticking.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2228: Jul 25, 2016 09:05:30 pm
      Good luck Pirlo!! I'm glad he didn't go back to Swansea, Stoke are more promising than them these days.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2229: Jul 25, 2016 09:23:42 pm
      Best of luck wee Joe. :)
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen Player Thread
      Reply #2230: Jul 25, 2016 09:41:50 pm
      Good luck Pirlo!! I'm glad he didn't go back to Swansea, Stoke are more promising than them these days.

      I'd rather him go to a less promising team than to benefit an ex-manc. But then, I'm more glad he's off. Does this make sense?
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2231: Jul 25, 2016 11:12:34 pm
      will be interesting to see how he does and where he plays but good luck to him
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2232: Jul 25, 2016 11:33:29 pm
      He came

      He saw

      He joined in for a bit, when he could

      He went somewhere more suitable because he wasn't quite good enough.

      No shame in that Joe lad - that's how it goes with most.

      Good luck.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2233: Jul 26, 2016 01:29:22 pm
      YNWA Wee Joe.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2234: Jul 26, 2016 01:31:49 pm
      Good luck lad seemed a nice enough fella never moaned or whined got on with it!

      Top pro Joe, well played mate.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2235: Jul 26, 2016 01:36:14 pm
      Best of luck 'wee Joe'
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2236: Jul 26, 2016 01:46:48 pm
      Jürgen wants tall strong highly technical central midfielders.

      Unfortunately for Joe he didn't possess the physical attributes Klopp requires.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2237: Jul 26, 2016 04:58:11 pm
      Jürgen wants tall strong highly technical central midfielders.

      Unfortunately for Joe he didn't possess the physical attributes Klopp requires.

      Or the general footballing attributes.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2238: Jul 26, 2016 05:10:25 pm
      Would have been a good squad player to have but can't complain about the lad wanting to play more regularly.

      All the best Joe.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2239: Jul 26, 2016 05:24:43 pm
      I'd rather him go to a less promising team than to benefit an ex-manc. But then, I'm more glad he's off. Does this make sense?

      If the manager agrees with you mate it makes perfect sense, Jürgen obviously gave the move his blessing.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2240: Jul 26, 2016 05:30:38 pm
      Good luck to him, I think he still has an awful lot more to offer and I would be willing to bet there was a bit of a conversation about game time in Joe's ear. I reckon if we had European footy he'd still be here but can totally understand him moving on and think Stoke have got him for a great price.

      Never moaned, always fully committed and showed at the bookends of his career with us why he was signed. While for a while he was really frustrating I grew to like Joe both as a player and a man, best of luck fella.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2241: Jul 26, 2016 05:52:30 pm
      Good luck Joe, I haven't really got a bad word to say, play sh*t against us eh?  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2242: Jul 26, 2016 06:20:32 pm
      Sorry to see Joe go tbh, hard working player, who I thought still had something to offer. Anyway good luck to him for the future.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2243: Aug 13, 2016 04:17:20 pm
      Poor Joe on the bench for Stoke
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2244: Aug 18, 2016 11:46:00 pm
      Joe Allen: I found out from friend's text I was leaving Liverpool
      Joe Allen was having a short holiday in Ibiza last month, reflecting on Wales’ remarkable Euro 2016 journey, when he discovered Liverpool were selling him to Stoke.

      After four years at Anfield he left as a cult hero with supporters, a hugely popular figure in the dressing room with his reputation enhanced after playing a key role in helping Wales to reach the semi-finals.

      He is now focusing on a new chapter in the Potteries and hopeful of making his home debut against Pep Guardiola’s Manchester City on Saturday, after sealing a £13  million move. But sitting at Stoke’s training ground on Thursday after agreeing to a rare interview, he admits the way it ended at Liverpool left a sour taste.

      Allen is low maintenance, reluctant to make headlines and chooses his words carefully, yet clearly feels his departure could have been better handled.

      “I actually had a text message off a friend congratulating me about making the move when I didn’t even know it was happening at the time,” he says. “Not knowing whether the club intend to sell you or keep you, especially when you’re trying to ask the question, is disappointing.

      “If I’m honest, to find out they accepted an offer through the press isn’t the best way of going about business, I don’t think. The communication wasn’t great but as soon as Liverpool accepted an offer I knew what their intentions were for me. It was a bit strange but that’s how things happen sometimes. There was no real goodbye, but I’m not the most sentimental person anyway. It’s irrelevant now because sitting here I’ve got the move I wanted.”

      Allen bears no grudges and, indeed, says he has many fond memories of his time at Liverpool. He was infamously branded “the Welsh Xavi” by Brendan Rodgers shortly after moving from Swansea in 2012 and it is easy to forget the role he later played when Liverpool chased Manchester City for the title.

      When Rodgers was sacked in October last season, he had to start again under Jürgen Klopp but proved himself to earn the respect of Liverpool fans. His sale polarised opinion among those supporters, with many claiming Liverpool should have offered him a new contract. But the lack of game time – just eight Premier League starts last season – made it an easy decision.

      “Being a regular wasn’t going to happen and that’s fair enough. If you look at the quality Liverpool have got in midfield, and maybe the age of the players, I think I’d have been waiting for injuries and suspensions. Realistically, if you’ve been there four years you expect more than that.

      “I’m not going to be happy unless I’m on the pitch on a regular basis. I’m 26 now and the next four or five years are going to be my best. I’m really excited about this move because the ambition is there to get better. In the three seasons Mark Hughes has had you’ve seen the progress Stoke have made, the players he’s brought in and the style he has imposed. We’ve finished ninth three seasons running and the aim now is to look at those places above.”

      Stoke’s capture of Allen is even more impressive when you consider his performances at the European Championship. The heartbeat of the Wales midfield, he produced his best display in the stunning victory over Belgium and was deservedly named in the Team of the Tournament.

      Those ‘Welsh Pirlo’ comparisons with the Italian maestro did not seem so far-fetched. The fairy tale ended against eventual winners Portugal in the semi-final but Allen admits it was a life-changing event.

      “As a Welshman I’d always dreamed of reaching a major tournament and wondered if it would ever happen but reaching the semi-finals is unforgettable. We were riding the crest of a wave, getting better and better, but Portugal was just one step too far. It maybe caught up with us.”

      All the attention garnered from Euro 2016 was a new experience for Allen, who readily admits he is an Average Joe. He is private and humble, though Liverpool players will tell you he was one of the most outgoing members of the squad. It was once revealed that he keeps chickens with his wife Lacey, but other details about the Welshman are scarce. So who is the real Joe Allen?

      “I’m a family guy who likes to fly under the radar. That’s why I don’t like talking about chickens! I’ve never really been comfortable in the spotlight. I’ve still got a family home in Swansea and get back when I can. People who know me probably get to see the real me.

      “I’ve been asked about Twitter before and people say I should make more of an effort to get on there. At a club like Liverpool which has global support, people do want more access into you and your life, but I’m a bit more old school.”

      It is no wonder, then, that he looked so uncomfortable on the Being: Liverpool documentary.

      “That was one of the things that scarred me!” he says, laughing. “I remember walking through the door and there was a camera crew there. That’s an example of where I’m out of my comfort zone and I’m not a big fan of that side of things.

      “I’m a footballer and my job is out there on the pitch. I’ve always been a team player and seen my role as helping the team function better. I think I’ve got attributes that can help Stoke.

      “Everyone is keeping an eye on Guardiola but we’re hoping to make it very difficult for him and his team on Saturday.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/18/joe-allen-i-found-out-from-friends-text-i-was-leaving-liverpool/
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2245: Aug 18, 2016 11:58:10 pm
      If he had to find out from a friend then maybe he should sack his agent for doing a sh*te job instead of mouthing off against the club.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2246: Aug 19, 2016 12:09:17 am
      That's a horsesh*t way to do business and if the club really did that, I'm embarrassed as a supporter. He deserved better than being shipped off without someone at the club letting him know directly. Whether his agent knew or not, the first call should have come from the club, either Ayre or Klopp.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2247: Aug 19, 2016 12:28:53 am
      If he had to find out from a friend then maybe he should sack his agent for doing a sh*te job instead of mouthing off against the club.

      Agree.

      I'm a big fan of Joe but find it hard to believe that in this day and age his agent wasn't in constant touch with him over his future.
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2248: Aug 19, 2016 01:06:09 am
      Agree.

      I'm a big fan of Joe but find it hard to believe that in this day and age his agent wasn't in constant touch with him over his future.

      Yea, he probably lied so he could try and make the club look bad, because he'd have a reason to do that right?
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      Re: Joe Pirlo Allen (Liverpool -> Stoke)
      Reply #2249: Aug 19, 2016 06:28:12 am
      Yea, he probably lied so he could try and make the club look bad, because he'd have a reason to do that right?

      That sounds like a more realistic possibility than Allen not having an inkling that he was going to be sold. It seemed fairly clear from an outside perspective and as said, he has an agent.

      He may not have been told 'you've been sold', but there's no doubt he would have known discussions were under way.

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