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      General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread

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      Robby The Z
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43750: Jan 11, 2021 07:01:33 am
      Loans could be viable but again what is the standard going to be unless they have fallen out etc Tomori at Chelsea looking at being loaned surely someone like that better than current options

      I thought a loan from the continent might be an option but Jürgen  seemed to say there isn't anyone that fits the bill. Surprises me really. As far as Chelsea or any other Premier League side goes, doubt they would want to help us out that way.
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      Reply #43751: Jan 11, 2021 08:14:04 am
      I thought a loan from the continent might be an option but Jürgen  seemed to say there isn't anyone that fits the bill. Surprises me really. As far as Chelsea or any other Premier League side goes, doubt they would want to help us out that way.

      Surely there must be someone available on loan better than the youngsters, I simply do not believe that there is not. I think this may be a case of Klopp letting perfect be the enemy of good.
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      Reply #43752: Jan 11, 2021 12:03:51 pm
      Anyone think Perr Schuurs from Ajax might be on the radar. He did have a trial of sorts at Anfield in 2017. Looks impressive now, and we apparently haven’t lost interest.
      Could be a short term reinforcement with long term aspirations.

      He will be on the radar, he is a very talented young player with a great career ahead of him.
      I can't see him signing in this window though (if at all), as Ajax will be able to increase their asking price significantly as all clubs do in January if one of their players is highly sought after.

      I think our best hope is to sign someone on a deal similar to the one which saw Jota arrive, with the terms being backloaded so payment is paid in the future. The price will still have to be right though.
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      Reply #43753: Jan 11, 2021 01:11:29 pm
      Got to suspect clubs are asking for pre-covid prices in a Covid world.

      Mostly because the likes of Chelsea and City keep the market artificially inflated.
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      Reply #43754: Jan 11, 2021 02:00:55 pm
      Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.
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      Reply #43755: Jan 11, 2021 02:07:34 pm
      Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.

      There were no rumours of us signing Fabinho or Jota if I remember rightly (probably others too). Both out of the blue.

      So wouldn't let that annoy you.
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      Reply #43756: Jan 11, 2021 02:57:25 pm
      Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.

      There are rumours though, Botman & Kabak to name but two.
      Probably a load of rubbish, but still rumours nonetheless.
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      Reply #43757: Jan 11, 2021 06:26:56 pm
      Well if we are to buy CB make it soon
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43758: Jan 12, 2021 12:21:06 pm
      8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

      Over 40 million quid.

      Doubt we're buying anyone.
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      Reply #43759: Jan 12, 2021 12:28:42 pm
      8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

      Over 40 million quid.

      Doubt we're buying anyone.

      What's the drop in cost forecast for this year?
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      Reply #43760: Jan 12, 2021 12:34:22 pm
      What's the drop in cost forecast for this year?

      makes no difference.
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      Reply #43761: Jan 12, 2021 01:57:19 pm
      8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

      Over 40 million quid.

      Doubt we're buying anyone.

      Given no one in the stands since March that number is actually pretty low. Good news.
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      Reply #43762: Jan 12, 2021 03:28:40 pm
      Given no one in the stands since March that number is actually pretty low. Good news.

      Not sure I'd describe it as good, because the knock on effects will last a while, but it could have been a lot worse.

      FYI, it's an estimate based on a survey by KPMG (who also happen to be our accountants).
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      Reply #43763: Jan 12, 2021 03:32:46 pm

      It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits
      « Last Edit: Jan 12, 2021 03:37:54 pm by shawspeed »
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      Reply #43764: Jan 12, 2021 03:33:58 pm
      Loic Bade of Lens seems to be the latest centre half linked, another 20 year old.

      Probably media and agents stirring the pot but from what Ive seen he looks more assured than Bothman
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      Reply #43765: Jan 12, 2021 03:43:59 pm
      Not sure I'd describe it as good, because the knock on effects will last a while, but it could have been a lot worse.

      FYI, it's an estimate based on a survey by KPMG (who also happen to be our accountants).

      Because it could have been a lot worse is that i say it's good news. Other teams like Arsenal had to recently borrow 120M.

      It's a really crappy situation for everyone (except corrupt teams like Chelsea and City) but it seems we have been able to weather the storm well given the circumstances.

      Not sure how much they have been able to offset the lost revenue with lower expenses so it's definitely a hit.
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      Reply #43766: Jan 12, 2021 03:46:58 pm
      It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits

      What costs do you think have dropped?

      @Swab - where are your figures from? I've seen reports it's more like £100m in revenue loss.

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      Reply #43767: Jan 12, 2021 03:50:24 pm
      It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits

      It's a revenue forecast, costs are accounted for in it.
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      Reply #43768: Jan 12, 2021 03:51:30 pm
      What costs do you think have dropped?

      @Swab - where are your figures from? I've seen reports it's more like £100m in revenue loss.

      KPMG estimate after looking at a number of clubs across Europe.

      Pretty sure there was an Echo article about it as well.
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      Reply #43769: Jan 12, 2021 03:52:12 pm
      What costs do you think have dropped?

      @Swab - where are your figures from? I've seen reports it's more like £100m in revenue loss.



      I don't think, it's pretty obvious, matchday staff costs, matchday catering supply costs, policing costs, cleaning costs, untility costs, insurance costs etc etc
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      Reply #43770: Jan 12, 2021 03:57:07 pm
      It's a revenue forecast, costs are accounted for in it.

      And there was me thinking revenue was the income derived from sales etc.

      So a forecast reduction of £40million profit then?

      What round of the Champions League have they forecast us reaching and will we win the premier league again this season?
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      Reply #43771: Jan 12, 2021 04:05:27 pm
      It's a revenue forecast, costs are accounted for in it.

      revenue and expenses are different things. So is the 40M you mentioned a profit loss estimate, then?
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      Reply #43772: Jan 12, 2021 04:05:29 pm
      Could even look for a loan. Don't need another VVD. Or a Koulibaly. Just someone who's better than Rhys/Nat. The worlds a big place, am still hopeful...
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      Reply #43773: Jan 12, 2021 04:09:09 pm
      And there was me thinking revenue was the income derived from sales etc.

      So a forecast reduction of £40million profit then?

      What round of the Champions League have they forecast us reaching and will we win the premier league again this season?

      revenue stream.

      My god, it's not f**king rocket science.
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      Reply #43774: Jan 12, 2021 04:09:48 pm
      Could even look for a loan. Don't need another VVD. Or a Koulibaly. Just someone who's better than Rhys/Nat. The worlds a big place, am still hopeful...

      Could get another interest free FSG loan ;)

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