General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread

All quiet on the rumour front. I'd say chances of signing a CB are less than 50/50.
But its been quiet before and we've made a move, so...

More from Klopp on why we won't buy a center back this window (probably):

“I cannot go to the owners and say: ‘Without that we cannot win anything.’ We have to make the best of it, and that is what we have always done. It’s not that nobody wants [a new central defender]; the question is if we can.”

“It is not a time for massive investment if you don’t have the funds for it. Obviously football clubs live off what they earn. We still don’t have supporters in the stadium, a lot of stuff is still different, and that has gone on for a long time.

“So I don’t understand why people now talk about the situation like nothing happened. We are still in the middle of a pandemic so that’s not the best time we’ve ever had.

Klopp insists Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool’s owner, shares his desire to strengthen in central defence but should not jeopardise the club’s finances in the notoriously difficult January market.

“In good times everybody thinks our owners are really generous and in bad times everyone thinks they are really tight, but they are not,” he said. “They are absolutely concerned about the club and the success of the club and understand how we have it.

“They see exactly the same things I see about the necessity to sign players and things like this.

“It is not that I say: ‘A centre-half would be really nice,’ and they say: ‘Wow, a centre-half? Really? Why?’ It’s all clear. It’s all on the table. We work on it, as you can imagine, but January is not the easiest transfer window and on top of that it is not having the money exactly as you want.”

Jürgen is saying that he wants a CB, just that it may not happen cos money is tight due to Covid. He is saying they are working on it, and I would be amazed if they weren't to be honest. So there probably is a fair chance we will sign one. Just depends if we can talk down the asking price/wages enough, I suspect.

Can’t see us signing one to be honest, just based on how the club have operated in the past.

Also how Jürgen likes to operate, he likes to find solutions to problems rather than just dipping into the market.

Really hope I’m wrong because I think we we get a CB in we have a great shot at retaining our title, without it am not so sure.

Anyone think Perr Schuurs from Ajax might be on the radar. He did have a trial of sorts at Anfield in 2017. Looks impressive now, and we apparently haven’t lost interest.
Could be a short term reinforcement with long term aspirations.

Jürgen is saying that he wants a CB, just that it may not happen cos money is tight due to Covid. He is saying they are working on it, and I would be amazed if they weren't to be honest. So there probably is a fair chance we will sign one. Just depends if we can talk down the asking price/wages enough, I suspect.

Loans could be viable but again what is the standard going to be unless they have fallen out etc Tomori at Chelsea looking at being loaned surely someone like that better than current options

Got to suspect clubs are asking for pre-covid prices in a Covid world.

Loans could be viable but again what is the standard going to be unless they have fallen out etc Tomori at Chelsea looking at being loaned surely someone like that better than current options

I thought a loan from the continent might be an option but Jürgen  seemed to say there isn't anyone that fits the bill. Surprises me really. As far as Chelsea or any other Premier League side goes, doubt they would want to help us out that way.

I thought a loan from the continent might be an option but Jürgen  seemed to say there isn't anyone that fits the bill. Surprises me really. As far as Chelsea or any other Premier League side goes, doubt they would want to help us out that way.

Surely there must be someone available on loan better than the youngsters, I simply do not believe that there is not. I think this may be a case of Klopp letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Anyone think Perr Schuurs from Ajax might be on the radar. He did have a trial of sorts at Anfield in 2017. Looks impressive now, and we apparently haven’t lost interest.
Could be a short term reinforcement with long term aspirations.

He will be on the radar, he is a very talented young player with a great career ahead of him.
I can't see him signing in this window though (if at all), as Ajax will be able to increase their asking price significantly as all clubs do in January if one of their players is highly sought after.

I think our best hope is to sign someone on a deal similar to the one which saw Jota arrive, with the terms being backloaded so payment is paid in the future. The price will still have to be right though.

Got to suspect clubs are asking for pre-covid prices in a Covid world.

Mostly because the likes of Chelsea and City keep the market artificially inflated.

Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.

Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.

There were no rumours of us signing Fabinho or Jota if I remember rightly (probably others too). Both out of the blue.

So wouldn't let that annoy you.

Slightly concerning that there aren't even any rumours of us signing any one, even on loan.

There are rumours though, Botman & Kabak to name but two.
Probably a load of rubbish, but still rumours nonetheless.

Well if we are to buy CB make it soon

8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

Over 40 million quid.

Doubt we're buying anyone.

8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

Over 40 million quid.

Doubt we're buying anyone.

What's the drop in cost forecast for this year?

What's the drop in cost forecast for this year?

makes no difference.

8% drop in revenue forecast this year.

Over 40 million quid.

Doubt we're buying anyone.

Given no one in the stands since March that number is actually pretty low. Good news.

Given no one in the stands since March that number is actually pretty low. Good news.

Not sure I'd describe it as good, because the knock on effects will last a while, but it could have been a lot worse.

FYI, it's an estimate based on a survey by KPMG (who also happen to be our accountants).

makes no difference.

It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits

Loic Bade of Lens seems to be the latest centre half linked, another 20 year old.

Probably media and agents stirring the pot but from what Ive seen he looks more assured than Bothman

Not sure I'd describe it as good, because the knock on effects will last a while, but it could have been a lot worse.

FYI, it's an estimate based on a survey by KPMG (who also happen to be our accountants).

Because it could have been a lot worse is that i say it's good news. Other teams like Arsenal had to recently borrow 120M.

It's a really crappy situation for everyone (except corrupt teams like Chelsea and City) but it seems we have been able to weather the storm well given the circumstances.

Not sure how much they have been able to offset the lost revenue with lower expenses so it's definitely a hit.

It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits

What costs do you think have dropped?

@Swab - where are your figures from? I've seen reports it's more like £100m in revenue loss.

It does if the costs have dropped £40 million then there would be no net change to cashflow / profits

It's a revenue forecast, costs are accounted for in it.

What costs do you think have dropped?

@Swab - where are your figures from? I've seen reports it's more like £100m in revenue loss.

KPMG estimate after looking at a number of clubs across Europe.

Pretty sure there was an Echo article about it as well.