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      General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread

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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43800: Jan 13, 2021 08:43:04 pm
      Really odd if we don't sign anyone. Without another CB we will almost certainly not win the title (unless we get really lucky with Fab and, in particular, Matip). Whereas with another CB, I would make us favourites (maybe joint favourites with City).

      I know that money is tight for everybody, but that means players should be available cheaper, as some clubs need to sell, and others can't afford to buy (or at least to spend as much when they do).

      We need to look at the fact that we will probably need to buy a CB in the summer anyway (cos of Matip's injury issues, Gomez likewise has got a pretty big injury history, and now that c**t Pickford has even left Virgil with a question mark about how resilient he will be after he comes back. Painful to even think about that, I know, but it has to be done. Hopefully he will be back as strong and durable as before, but we don't know that, and anyway the other 2 are definitely already injury prone.)

      Basically if Jürgen doesn't think Phillips or Williams are going to cut it long term, we will need somebody else as cover at the very least anyway. So we should get them in now when prices are lower (even if it means taking on a bit more debt or whatever). We're only postponing the expense by delaying, and the price of the postponement is likely to be this season's title chances.
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43801: Jan 13, 2021 09:10:38 pm
      Militao Is available on loan for 2,5 mil
      RM has announced

      We should jump at this
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43802: Jan 14, 2021 02:14:39 am
      Militao Is available on loan for 2,5 mil
      RM has announced

      We should jump at this

      We should be all over this... was solid against us when we played Porto..I hope our Brazilian players help
      Seal this one..
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      Reply #43803: Jan 14, 2021 05:00:03 am
      We should be all over this... was solid against us when we played Porto..I hope our Brazilian players help
      Seal this one..

      Don't know much about him but if he's good enough and available, it would be dumb not to sign him. Transfers involve risks.
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      Reply #43804: Jan 14, 2021 10:16:34 am
      We wont break the bank during covid. and selling clubs probably wanting silly money for same reason.

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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43805: Jan 14, 2021 10:26:54 am
      Rightly or wrongly, FSG maybe think that having their pants pulled down to the tune of potentially 10's of millions to sign someone 6 months early just isn't justifiable. The amount we potentially overpay for someone now may be the difference between signing an extra player in the summer.

      That's not to say I think we shouldn't sign anyone, but we're not City, Chelsea or United, we can't just throw another £15m at someone to seal the deal.

      I do think Edwards has the nous to pull something off that (if there is one) the selling club will be happy with, but no one outside of the club has a clue what is going on behind the scenes.
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43806: Jan 14, 2021 10:30:23 am
      RM wants to send him on loan and the option to buy him at the end of loan, if he works out we would have the option sign him or send him back. With the situation at back it’s a no-brainer
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43807: Jan 14, 2021 10:30:56 am
      Rightly or wrongly, FSG maybe think that having their pants pulled down to the tune of potentially 10's of millions to sign someone 6 months early just isn't justifiable. The amount we potentially overpay for someone now may be the difference between signing an extra player in the summer.

      That's not to say I think we shouldn't sign anyone, but we're not City, Chelsea or United, we can't just throw another £15m at someone to seal the deal.

      I do think Edwards has the nous to pull something off that (if there is one) the selling club will be happy with, but no one outside of the club has a clue what is going on behind the scenes.

      We dont have to sign a megastar. There are players out there be it premier league or elsewhere who can do a job to ease our issues for 5 months. Garay on a free is my go to
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43808: Jan 14, 2021 11:46:54 am
      We dont have to sign a megastar. There are players out there be it premier league or elsewhere who can do a job to ease our issues for 5 months. Garay on a free is my go to

      Would much rather Militio at Madrid available for 6 months would be much better fellow Brazilian for Fab
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      Reply #43809: Jan 14, 2021 11:52:40 am
      We dont have to sign a megastar. There are players out there be it premier league or elsewhere who can do a job to ease our issues for 5 months. Garay on a free is my go to


      I agree, but I thought there has been stories that Jürgen doesn't do short term fixes?
      No disrespect to Williams or Phillips, but there has to be better players out there who would be able to come in and do a job for an affordable price.
      It is down to Jürgen & Michael Edwards think thrash out the risk/reward and then decide whether to pull the trigger on a new signing or go with what we have.
      I think their decision would be easier if Matip wasn't made of glass and paper mache, as he will no doubt be injured again within weeks of his latest return.
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      Reply #43810: Jan 14, 2021 12:29:00 pm
      F**k sake are we really not getting anyone??

      Hopefully........... Not.  ;D
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      Re: General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #43811: Jan 14, 2021 01:06:26 pm
      Militao Is available on loan for 2,5 mil
      RM has announced

      We should jump at this

      That's a no-brainer get him signed on loan. Surely we must have money for loan signings.
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      Reply #43812: Jan 14, 2021 02:56:05 pm
      Rightly or wrongly, FSG maybe think that having their pants pulled down to the tune of potentially 10's of millions to sign someone 6 months early just isn't justifiable. The amount we potentially overpay for someone now may be the difference between signing an extra player in the summer.

      That's not to say I think we shouldn't sign anyone, but we're not City, Chelsea or United, we can't just throw another £15m at someone to seal the deal.

      I do think Edwards has the nous to pull something off that (if there is one) the selling club will be happy with, but no one outside of the club has a clue what is going on behind the scenes.

      Isn't the prize money of EPL title winning and UCL/FA win or throgh to later rounds more than enough to compensate that money?
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      Reply #43813: Jan 14, 2021 03:37:35 pm
      Isn't the prize money of EPL title winning and UCL/FA win or throgh to later rounds more than enough to compensate that money?

      It isn't for me to decide, people with far, far more data on the subject will have no doubt studied the numbers and come to their own conclusion.
      Until we hit 11pm on Feb 1st we won't know what that decision was.

      What I will say is that we may net (I'm pulling random figures out of the air here) £30m extra for winning the league. Is it wise to spend that amount of money on a player who would normally be worth only £15m during the summer? Like I said in my earlier post, we aren't City, where an extra £10m to secure a player is virtually nothing to them in the grand scheme of things.


      I'm not saying I don't think we should buy someone, I'm trying to explain that the decision to sign someone isn't as straightforward as "need centre half, buy centre half".
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      Reply #43814: Jan 14, 2021 04:24:57 pm
      It isn't for me to decide, people with far, far more data on the subject will have no doubt studied the numbers and come to their own conclusion.
      Until we hit 11pm on Feb 1st we won't know what that decision was.

      What I will say is that we may net (I'm pulling random figures out of the air here) £30m extra for winning the league. Is it wise to spend that amount of money on a player who would normally be worth only £15m during the summer? Like I said in my earlier post, we aren't City, where an extra £10m to secure a player is virtually nothing to them in the grand scheme of things.


      I'm not saying I don't think we should buy someone, I'm trying to explain that the decision to sign someone isn't as straightforward as "need centre half, buy centre half".

      I see mate.
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      Reply #43815: Jan 14, 2021 04:28:37 pm
      It isn't for me to decide, people with far, far more data on the subject will have no doubt studied the numbers and come to their own conclusion.
      Until we hit 11pm on Feb 1st we won't know what that decision was.

      What I will say is that we may net (I'm pulling random figures out of the air here) £30m extra for winning the league. Is it wise to spend that amount of money on a player who would normally be worth only £15m during the summer? Like I said in my earlier post, we aren't City, where an extra £10m to secure a player is virtually nothing to them in the grand scheme of things.


      I'm not saying I don't think we should buy someone, I'm trying to explain that the decision to sign someone isn't as straightforward as "need centre half, buy centre half".

      It is always worth spending money to win the league, especially if its a loan signing. Plus if you get a good defender even if you overpay a bit it will be a good investment in the long run.  I am absolutely baffled why we did not have someone lined up on the 1st January
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      Reply #43816: Jan 14, 2021 04:47:45 pm
      It is always worth spending money to win the league, especially if its a loan signing. Plus if you get a good defender even if you overpay a bit it will be a good investment in the long run.  I am absolutely baffled why we did not have someone lined up on the 1st January

      Is football players from outside of England need 14 days quarantine?, if so maybe tomorrow . . .   haha  :D
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      Reply #43817: Jan 14, 2021 04:56:27 pm
      Isn't the prize money of EPL title winning and UCL/FA win or throgh to later rounds more than enough to compensate that money?

      I think its more the money were losing on matchdays due to covid, and no real date in sight for fans returning to the grounds.

      losing money every matchday.

      Only have to look at whats going on at derby, cant pay wages, to see why the club are nervous about spending any money at all during this time.

      Even bringing a loan player in, is more wages. I do wonder if they maybe have to shift someone of the wage bill to get someone else in.

      Clubs are going bust. :-(
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      Reply #43818: Jan 14, 2021 05:03:06 pm
      I think its more the money were losing on matchdays due to covid, and no real date in sight for fans returning to the grounds.

      losing money every matchday.

      Only have to look at whats going on at derby, cant pay wages, to see why the club are nervous about spending any money at all during this time.

      Even bringing a loan player in, is more wages. I do wonder if they maybe have to shift someone of the wage bill to get someone else in.

      Clubs are going bust. :-(

      Clubs have been going bust for years. It's a gamble whether the outlay would be covered by improved PL or CL position. We'll all be wise after the event. We may be lucky and continue to do OK with no fit first team centre backs.
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      Reply #43819: Jan 14, 2021 05:41:56 pm
      Clubs have been going bust for years. It's a gamble whether the outlay would be covered by improved PL or CL position. We'll all be wise after the event. We may be lucky and continue to do OK with no fit first team centre backs.

      off course they have, through poor management at board level, but this is very very different.
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      Reply #43820: Jan 14, 2021 06:32:01 pm
      I think its more the money were losing on matchdays due to covid, and no real date in sight for fans returning to the grounds.

      losing money every matchday.

      Only have to look at whats going on at derby, cant pay wages, to see why the club are nervous about spending any money at all during this time.

      Even bringing a loan player in, is more wages. I do wonder if they maybe have to shift someone of the wage bill to get someone else in.

      Clubs are going bust. :-(

      We could borrow the money if need be, rates are historically low. Speculate to accumulate.
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      Reply #43821: Jan 14, 2021 06:38:32 pm
      If we want to win the league and or the CL we must sign a centre back. If united beat us on Sunday its 6 points deficate. How long have we got till the end of the season on a make back CB and a CB made of glass
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      Reply #43822: Jan 14, 2021 07:28:23 pm
      We could borrow the money if need be, rates are historically low. Speculate to accumulate.

      They probably could, but cant see FSG even doing that, in these uncertain times.
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      Reply #43823: Jan 14, 2021 07:30:04 pm
      James Pearce again confirmed, very unlikley they will get a CB unless something radical changes.
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      Reply #43824: Jan 15, 2021 12:10:55 am
      James Pearce again confirmed, very unlikley they will get a CB unless something radical changes.

      We're promoting quorn to get money in that's how cash strapped we are ffs we can forget about signing a new player for a long time.

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