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      Daniel Sturridge Player Thread

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      DanMann
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4170 : May 16, 2017 01:58:26 pm »
      Yes, we need to keep Sturridge. Why anyone would even consider moving him out of this club is beyond me. He has proven himself time and time again, and we need that talent. I'd be prepared to risk another season and see how he gets on. Even playing 50% of games, he is brilliant and we need that class.

      If however (and it's a big if), we bring in an incredible world class talented footballer, and so much so that Sturridge's place is in doubt, then we can consider a future without him.

      As it stands, that is highly unlikely and we should not be pushing to get rid, just because of his injury record. What other options do we have? We need to strengthen our squad, and that means bringing in fresh (world class) talent whilst retaining the talent that we have.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4171 : May 16, 2017 02:53:12 pm »

      Even playing 50% of games, he is brilliant and we need that class.


      Don't think has even played 25% of the season for the last 2 years so be damn lucky to get 50% out of him.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4172 : May 16, 2017 02:58:35 pm »
      OK Sturridge is brilliant when on form and fit. But let's not pretend before the last game every time he played he was immense, because it is simply not true. The last several cameo's he has had he has looked lethargic and a shadow of his old self.

      Perhaps the reason for the great display last time out was  because of the time on the bench, he has recently had.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4173 : May 16, 2017 07:08:24 pm »
      OK Sturridge is brilliant when on form and fit. But let's not pretend before the last game every time he played he was immense, because it is simply not true. The last several cameo's he has had he has looked lethargic and a shadow of his old self.

      Perhaps the reason for the great display last time out was  because of the time on the bench, he has recently had.

      Because he wasn't fit. Let's not pretend it was otherwise. A fit Sturridge puts the fear of god into defenders. Besides, it's not like Origi has been red hot this season despite playing a hell of a lot more games than Sturridge so if we were to sell any I'd rather go with the lesser strikers, starting with Ings.

      As for keeping or selling him, it comes down to a simple thing. Big clubs do not sell players who can make radical impacts in their performances until such time as they're able to replace that player with one who can make an equal, or better impact. If we want to be a big club we need to start thinking like a big club. We need the highest quality players in the squad so Klopp can stop being so tactically one dimensional and have options for both specific types of games and from the bench. Forget about his wages, focus on his potential impact. Playing a 4-3-3 with Firmino through the middle is good against teams who will come out and attack, usually in the first half of the season and against the top six clubs, but having a player whose game intelligence is capable of slicing open defences is helpful against teams that want to park the bus, especially the lower half of the table during the second half of the season were the fear of relegation means every point counts.

      Danny Ings has spent even more time on the treatment table the last two years than Sturridge and the only reason no one suggests he be sold is because he's on substantially less wages, but the reason he's on substantially less wages is because he's a substantially less talented player. Where is the sense in keeping the lesser talent and selling your greater talent? So unless you come to me with a player of equal or greater talent than Sturridge, and FSG are willing to pay him £150K a week to get him over the line, then we shouldn't be thinking of selling one of our most talented players, regardless of injury susceptibility. The most successful clubs build their squads by buying players who are better than the ones they have, not by keeping those who are worse.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4174 : May 16, 2017 07:54:08 pm »
      I like Sturridge and I believe that we as fans do not show our full admiration towards him. I would sell him if we only get a better and fitter striker, a well proven striker.

      I would keep him for another season if we are in the Champions League because his quality will be needed in Europe with slower central defenders.
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      Reply #4175 : May 16, 2017 09:00:27 pm »
      Because he wasn't fit. Let's not pretend it was otherwise. A fit Sturridge puts the fear of god into defenders. Besides, it's not like Origi has been red hot this season despite playing a hell of a lot more games than Sturridge so if we were to sell any I'd rather go with the lesser strikers, starting with Ings.

      As for keeping or selling him, it comes down to a simple thing. Big clubs do not sell players who can make radical impacts in their performances until such time as they're able to replace that player with one who can make an equal, or better impact. If we want to be a big club we need to start thinking like a big club. We need the highest quality players in the squad so Klopp can stop being so tactically one dimensional and have options for both specific types of games and from the bench. Forget about his wages, focus on his potential impact. Playing a 4-3-3 with Firmino through the middle is good against teams who will come out and attack, usually in the first half of the season and against the top six clubs, but having a player whose game intelligence is capable of slicing open defences is helpful against teams that want to park the bus, especially the lower half of the table during the second half of the season were the fear of relegation means every point counts.

      Danny Ings has spent even more time on the treatment table the last two years than Sturridge and the only reason no one suggests he be sold is because he's on substantially less wages, but the reason he's on substantially less wages is because he's a substantially less talented player. Where is the sense in keeping the lesser talent and selling your greater talent? So unless you come to me with a player of equal or greater talent than Sturridge, and FSG are willing to pay him £150K a week to get him over the line, then we shouldn't be thinking of selling one of our most talented players, regardless of injury susceptibility. The most successful clubs build their squads by buying players who are better than the ones they have, not by keeping those who are worse.

      Mate my point was him being on the bench (having a rest) may explain his recent performance, as in his got fitter by being a sub and resting longer.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4178 : May 19, 2017 05:20:59 pm »
      Sturry is our best finisher by a mile
      He is injured all the dam time
      when playing he doesn't seem to suit the style of play at present due to his lack of running and pressing

      Only Firmino can compete to some degree in terms of - he suits our style in terms of pressing and running

      Origi is simply useless
      Ings is no where near his level and seems to get horrendous injuries

      we should be looking at the likes of patrick aubameyang as the top target then working our way down to other targets, not the other way around




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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4179 : May 21, 2017 07:00:25 pm »
      Apparently said after the game that he wants to stay. I'd be more than happy as long as we get a striker, we are going to need that strength in depth next season.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4180 : May 21, 2017 07:44:33 pm »
      It will be a bad decision to keep him in my opinion. He's good enough and up there with the best on his day. However, we all know he'll spend more time on medical table than he will on the pitch. Very frustrating for the fans, We had the same problem with Hargreaves.

      If I owned the club I'd cash in and get another striker.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4181 : May 21, 2017 08:04:44 pm »
      It will be a bad decision to keep him in my opinion. He's good enough and up there with the best on his day. However, we all know he'll spend more time on medical table than he will on the pitch. Very frustrating for the fans, We had the same problem with Hargreaves.

      If I owned the club I'd cash in and get another striker.

      It's going to be a very tough decision either way IMO. We have a group of strikers that for one reason or another won't score a lot of goals during the season. Sturridge always injured, Origi not consistent enough, Ings always injured and Firmino isn't a natural goalscorer. If we are to sign a top striker then maybe Sturridge does get moved on.

      On the other hand, I'm not sure how much we would really get for him after pretty much a nothing season and IF he can play a few more games next season with a few less injuries then maybe the price gets bigger?
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4182 : May 21, 2017 08:12:16 pm »
      It's going to be a very tough decision either way IMO. We have a group of strikers that for one reason or another won't score a lot of goals during the season. Sturridge always injured, Origi not consistent enough, Ings always injured and Firmino isn't a natural goalscorer. If we are to sign a top striker then maybe Sturridge does get moved on.

      On the other hand, I'm not sure how much we would really get for him after pretty much a nothing season and IF he can play a few more games next season with a few less injuries then maybe the price gets bigger?

      As a United fan I hope you keep him  :D Seriously though the lads a nightmare to keep fit. You probably pay more in medical bills than you do in wages for sturridge. Combine his wages & medical bills and you'll be able to afford another striker to go alone with Mane.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4183 : May 21, 2017 09:00:33 pm »
      As a United fan I hope you keep him  :D Seriously though the lads a nightmare to keep fit. You probably pay more in medical bills than you do in wages for sturridge. Combine his wages & medical bills and you'll be able to afford another striker to go alone with Mane.

      I think you're right Keith. If it was guaranteed that Sturridge would be fit for 30-40 games next season I would absolutely love to see him stay. But history has shown, particularly the last three years, that that won't happen and so Klopp has to go about this summer in search of a replacement and that he probably should be sold. Harsh but true.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4184 : May 21, 2017 09:21:08 pm »
      Don't forget Studge was available for good chunks of the season but simply wasn't getting a look in, and when he did he often looked well off the pace. He has certainly looked sharp the last few games and it seemed to me he has looked liter and quicker on his feet since coming back into the side. I think the market will dictate whether he stays or goes. He's on a pretty hefty contract so he'll only go if someone is willing to pay a transfer fee and meet his wages. So long as we go and sign a quality number 9 I'm more than happy to see Studge stay, particularly as there will be more games to deal with next season.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4185 : May 21, 2017 09:55:38 pm »
      Thought he was poor today. Just does not work hard enough around the pitch. 

      Definitely not in Klopp's long term plans. 

      Not sure how much he's on, not sure he'd get the same amount elsewhere, and seeing as he is hardly being denied opportunities (as he is always injured, or recovering) I could definitely see a situation where through a lack of motivation and interest he is at Anfield next season. 
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      Reply #4186 : May 21, 2017 10:07:07 pm »
      Thought he was poor today. Just does not work hard enough around the pitch. 

      Definitely not in Klopp's long term plans. 

      Not sure how much he's on, not sure he'd get the same amount elsewhere, and seeing as he is hardly being denied opportunities (as he is always injured, or recovering) I could definitely see a situation where through a lack of motivation and interest he is at Anfield next season. 

      Pretty much spot on this.

      I'm still far from convinced that a fully for Sturridge is what Jürgen is after but like you say the circumstances surrounding Danny means I wouldn't be surprised if he's still here next season.

      If he is I don't expect him to start regularly.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4187 : May 21, 2017 10:20:48 pm »
      Anyone see Sturridge arrive late for the lap of honour and limping towards the group? Must be injured again :(
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4188 : May 22, 2017 06:08:00 am »
      We should cash in on him while we still can.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4189 : May 25, 2017 09:20:30 am »
      Anyone see Sturridge arrive late for the lap of honour and limping towards the group? Must be injured again :(

      Yup

      indeed he is

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/daniel-sturridge-liverpool-future-update-13088272
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4190 : May 25, 2017 09:54:50 am »
      Hilarious.

      So now Sturridge is "injured" and "playing through the pain barrier" but yet plays perfectly well in the friendly just as planned.
       ;D

      Liverpool fans and the Echo always looking to get the boot in. Criticise him when he's out, criticise him when he plays.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4191 : May 25, 2017 10:41:18 am »

      Can't see any of you being surprised with his latest injury.  Will say again! Get rid of him Asap. You'll save on medical bills as well as getting another striker. Keep him and this will be a major major mistake for your CL campaign 2017/18
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4192 : May 25, 2017 03:53:48 pm »
      What injury? He lit it up in Sydney
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4193 : May 25, 2017 05:30:56 pm »
      Hmm... Do any of you reckon Jürgen is telling lies regarding Danny.   :confused-smiley-013:

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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4194 : May 25, 2017 09:28:37 pm »
      Hmm... Do any of you reckon Jürgen is telling lies regarding Danny.   :confused-smiley-013:



      I think he might be Mouse.

      Nothing this season has suggested to me that Jürgen sees Danny in his long term plans.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4195 : May 25, 2017 09:36:35 pm »
      Poll added.   :roll:

      Difficult one this, as when he is fit, he's vital, but these spells are few and far between.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4196 : May 25, 2017 09:51:16 pm »

      He's not injured again, he's been playing through the pain barrier because still carrying the persistent hip problem and is set to have surgery on it this Summer.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4197 : May 26, 2017 06:56:51 am »
      i'm surprised people are still attached to him. he's been injured so damn much for so damn long that how can anyone still be attached and have this idea that "when he gets fit again he'll be great", he's like daniel agger, you just have to cut your losses as painful as it might be because even though they seem absolutely ideal they just weren't reliable enough. that's it for me. sell him to someone who will pay outrageous amounts for someone who will be fit for 15 games max - like we'll do with sakho.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4198 : May 26, 2017 07:31:21 am »
      Fantastic first 45 minutes from Daniel in the Sydney match. Wish we could have him fit for at least every Premier League game next season. If that was the case, I reckon we'd go damn close to winning it. Stay fit for one season Danny.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4199 : May 26, 2017 08:35:12 am »
      I'm surprised people believe Jürgen is a Danny convert. There's been lots of occasions when Sturridge has been as fit as you're ever going to get him and thd boss has selected Divok ahead of him. Wouldn't be my choice personally obviously, but surely it's fair to say Jürgen rates Origi as the better player in his system.

      If that is no longer the case, then one or more of the following must be true:

      a) Jürgen has been under the misconception for the best part of two seasons that Origi is better (he isn't obviously). In believing this, he has f***** up and cost us games. Fortunately now he has seen the light and as with the weak squad thing, is now happy to admit he was wrong.

      b) Jürgen has belatedly seen the light snd realises that against bus parkers, having players who are good at putting tackles in and pressing is less important than having players who cause goals to be scored. Blahdie blahdie blah on the admitting he was wrong/cost us points stuff.


      The second one is more likely (infact I'm certain it IS the case, unlike the drum bangers I have more faith in Jürgen than thinking he's thick). Even so, my feeling us that the sudden "positivity" about Sturridge is to encourage bids for him.

      Jürgen did much the same with Benteke and it did the trick there. In fairness to the boss he was fulsome in his praise when the big man scored twice against us at Anfield too. Top man Jürgen.

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