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      Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)

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      HScRed1
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3570: Jan 11, 2019 04:51:52 pm
      This is how I know that you are not interested in debate, or anything else except your own view.

      If you were actually interested in anything but your own "opinion", you'd look up what Klopp said, and try to understand the reasons he said it.

      Perhaps a good start would be understanding that Klopp knows his system and his players better than you or I, and how players fit into it and perform in it, and what their roles are.

      I won't hold my breath though.
      It's far easier for you and others of your ilk to dismiss whatever doesn't fit your agenda, than it is to actually learn something.

      And there in is your problem you think that Klopp is the be all of football.

      I can make up my own mind watching and analysing Coutinho when he has played in midfield compared to as an attacker for LFC, Brazil and Barca to come to a conclusion that many have about his best position.

      Maybe if you accepted even Klopp is human you would realise he makes mistakes like playing Milner as a DM against Wolves!
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3571: Jan 11, 2019 04:59:09 pm
      Exactly.
      Klopp spoke about it a couple of times.

      The other myth is that defending only begins in our half.
      Coutinho was good at defending from the front, not tackling as such, but closing off opposition options, passing lanes, half spaces and pressing.
      Yeah mate, precisely. Hardly think Klopp would have played him day in day out if he was such a defensive liability. But then again, maybe he wasn’t aware of Coutinho’s aerial duel stats.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3572: Jan 11, 2019 05:14:02 pm
      He said he wouldn’t class Iniesta as a CM not what position he primarily plays in midfield.

      I wouldn't mate and again I'm certain you know what I'm talking about as anytime I've debated with you before you never struck me as an idiot so I can only guess you're being awkward for some reason.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3573: Jan 11, 2019 05:20:48 pm
      I wouldn't mate and again I'm certain you know what I'm talking about as anytime I've debated with you before you never struck me as an idiot so I can only guess you're being awkward for some reason.

      Not being awkward at all mate you said :
      “Personally I wouldn't class Iniesta's position in that 4 3 3 of Barca's  as a CM mate”

      And I replied back to your quote so I can only apologise if you think I’m being awkward.


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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3574: Jan 11, 2019 05:43:13 pm
      He said he wouldn’t class Iniesta as a CM not what position he primarily plays in midfield.

      Which is fair
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      Reply #3575: Jan 11, 2019 06:07:40 pm
      And there in is your problem you think that Klopp is the be all of football.

      I can make up my own mind watching and analysing Coutinho when he has played in midfield compared to as an attacker for LFC, Brazil and Barca to come to a conclusion that many have about his best position.

      Maybe if you accepted even Klopp is human you would realise he makes mistakes like playing Milner as a DM against Wolves!

       :lmao:

      Here we go again with the "Klopp is human but I am infallible" posts.

      The irony is you can't even see your own double standard here.

      Again, all this says is that you have no desire to learn, mostly because you think you know it all already.

      The reality is, you're just one more "Barry from t'interweb" (copyright Scotia) who is full of sh*t, and his own sense of self importance.
      Quite how anyone can go through life thinking they have nothing to learn, is beyond me, but good luck with that, Barry.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3576: Jan 11, 2019 06:13:01 pm
      Not being awkward at all mate you said :
      “Personally I wouldn't class Iniesta's position in that 4 3 3 of Barca's  as a CM mate”

      And I replied back to your quote so I can only apologise if you think I’m being awkward.




      No worries and like I said strictly speaking it's a CM position but Iniesta plays left of the three and slightly advanced which in my opinion is Coutinho's best position.

      But if Barca aren't playing like that anymore and Coutinho is playing wide left I can see why he maybe is struggling there.
      « Last Edit: Jan 11, 2019 06:19:09 pm by srslfc »
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3577: Jan 12, 2019 12:49:46 pm
      I just meant the whole 'is he coming back saga' 12 months after being sold.

      We couldn't afford his market value (also another comparison to my initial post) of paying double for Owen, or around the same astronomical price that Coutinho left for.

      I still stand by my prediction that he will end up at PSG next season, who else has silly money like that? City?  :roll:

      I think he will end up at Man Utd!!
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      Reply #3578: Jan 12, 2019 01:20:43 pm
      I know a lot of people like to discuss tactics but other than the kick off these days players positions are so fluid and players seem to develop ways of attacking as the game progresses. Its what I find so good about our front three they must be the most intelligent players in the league and an absolute nightmare to mark.
      I would put Couthino in that category of being an intelligent player and hopefully he will realise going to UTD is the least intelligent thing he can do.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3579: Jan 12, 2019 01:30:16 pm
      If Barcelona sell now we will lose 22m on the transfer fee. Some of the fee is made up from add ons that are appearance based. Express doesn't suit me as a great source though.
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      Reply #3580: Jan 12, 2019 01:38:32 pm
      Think we pick up around 17 million after so many appearances or something like that
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      Reply #3581: Jan 12, 2019 01:41:56 pm
      Think we pick up around 17 million after so many appearances or something like that

      Are Manure going to pay £140m for him though, surely their priority at the moment will be defence rather than attack.
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      Reply #3582: Jan 12, 2019 02:28:42 pm
      It's Utd since whiskey nose left they haven't had a transfer strategy
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3583: Jan 12, 2019 02:35:51 pm
      Think we pick up around 17 million after so many appearances or something like that

      £4.4million every 25 league games up to 100.

      Coutinho played 34/100 in La Liga so we have already received the first £4.4m.

      There is a second clause in which they have paid £4.4million after qualifying for the Champions League last season, and another £4.4m if Barca qualify for next season's CL.

      Finally, Barcelona will pay £4.4million to us if they win the Champions League with Coutinho in the squad.

      So we have received £8.8m/£30.8m so far.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3584: Jan 12, 2019 05:46:10 pm
      I think he will end up at Man Utd!!

      No he won’t.
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      Reply #3585: Jan 12, 2019 05:56:56 pm
      £4.4million every 25 league games up to 100.

      Coutinho played 34/100 in La Liga so we have already received the first £4.4m.

      There is a second clause in which they have paid £4.4million after qualifying for the Champions League last season, and another £4.4m if Barca qualify for next season's CL.

      Finally, Barcelona will pay £4.4million to us if they win the Champions League with Coutinho in the squad.

      So we have received £8.8m/£30.8m so far.
      so if they sell now for 120m, they break even and we lose 22m of the 142m. No wonder they won't play him, but eventually his value will drop even more and they'll never find a buyer.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3586: Jan 12, 2019 06:02:34 pm
      Some fireworks set to go off if there's any truth to this  media bull sh*t.  :f_whistle: :D
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      Reply #3587: Jan 12, 2019 06:05:30 pm
      Some fireworks set to go off if there's any truth to this  media bull sh*t.  :f_whistle: :D
      we knew there would be add ons, but the amount he has flopped is a surprise.
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      Reply #3588: Jan 12, 2019 06:05:42 pm
      Some fireworks set to go off if there's any truth to this  media bull sh*t.  :f_whistle: :D

      You lot need a manager before you can look at forking out over £100mil!

      There’s f**k all happening this window so something needs to fill column inches... nothing more to it than that.
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      Reply #3589: Jan 12, 2019 06:07:45 pm
      we knew there would be add ons, but the amount he has flopped is a surprise.

      Not seen him play since he left Liverpool
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      Reply #3590: Jan 12, 2019 06:09:00 pm
      You lot need a manager before you can look at forking out over £100mil!

      There’s f**k all happening this window so something needs to fill column inches... nothing more to it than that.

      Yeah I think same thing. Hoping it's the fact their waiting for Poch.  :f_whistle:  ;D
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      Reply #3591: Jan 12, 2019 06:14:13 pm
      Yeah I think same thing. Hoping it's the fact their waiting for Poch.  :f_whistle:  ;D
      If Ole gets United a 5th place finish I think Ole will be staying. It would mean United won't fork out this window.
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      Reply #3592: Jan 12, 2019 06:15:50 pm
      Yeah I think same thing. Hoping it's the fact their waiting for Poch.  :f_whistle:  ;D

      Don’t blame you, but personally think he’d be mad to move. Something stopped him taking the Madrid job, not having a dig but that’s a much more lucrative offer than anything in the Premier League. Don’t see what United can offer that Madrid wouldn’t have tried already, or that they won’t come back with.


      Not to sidetrack the thread off Coutinho... he made his own bed, he took quite a while to adapt here and we afforded him the time. I’m sure if he got that he would be fine at Barca but he might want to stop and appreciate what he had.
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      Reply #3593: Jan 12, 2019 07:06:12 pm
      Yeah I think same thing. Hoping it's the fact their waiting for Poch.  :f_whistle:  ;D

      Poch won't spend £140m on Coutinho, he will poach as many Spurs players as possible with that money.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3594: Jan 12, 2019 07:58:34 pm
      He’s not going to go to the Mancs, not a chance. If he does then he really is more of a c**t than we thought.

      It’s just silly season again. Won’t be long before there’s talk about a swap between us and them, Keita for Coutinho. Neither player seems to be settling, Barca wanted Keita so the media will put 2 and 2 together and get 7.

      Don’t think he has a future at Barca to be honest, if they sign Rabiot then that’s another player he has to compete with for a place in the team. Maybe different positions, but my point is that I expect Rabiot will be a starter virtually every game. Coutinho is bound for PSG IMO with Neymar going the other way.
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      Reply #3595: Jan 12, 2019 08:02:34 pm
      If Ole gets United a 5th place finish I think Ole will be staying. It would mean United won't fork out this window.

      Then I hope we get 6th.  :D
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      Reply #3596: Jan 12, 2019 08:06:04 pm
      Poch won't spend £140m on Coutinho, he will poach as many Spurs players as possible with that money.

      Well that won't be to bad if we do a exchange deal with Lukaku for diver Kane  ;D
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      Reply #3597: Jan 12, 2019 08:19:19 pm
      Well that won't be to bad if we do a exchange deal with Lukaku for diver Kane  ;D

      Kane will cost North of £250m
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3598: Jan 12, 2019 08:22:53 pm

      Minus £150m  :f_whistle: for Lukaku  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #3599: Jan 19, 2019 12:22:31 pm

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