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      Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)

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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3725: Aug 19, 2019 11:49:09 am
      I wonder where we fit into the whole saga? I'm guessing he hasn't hit certain clauses in his contract that would mean we get paid the full fee.

      Also Bayern love these types of deals but very rarely end up buying.

      Think only 2 clauses are unfulfilled, i.e. Barca winning CL, that too gives the club 4.4 million, other one is that of 100 appearances, 4.4 million for that too.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3726: Aug 19, 2019 01:32:32 pm
      Good luck to the wee man.

      On the money front, I read that we are all paid up by barca, they dont owe us anything.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3727: Aug 19, 2019 05:12:52 pm
      https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1163473294424776705


      F***ing shithouse. Hope his career goes even more backwards. All that fuss and hassle he caused us to get his dream move to then so easily move on from Barca.

      Oh and Coutinho, it’s only a season loan you dumb f**k.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3728: Aug 19, 2019 05:35:36 pm
      https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1163473294424776705


      F***ing shithouse. Hope his career goes even more backwards. All that fuss and hassle he caused us to get his dream move to then so easily move on from Barca.

      Oh and Coutinho, it’s only a season loan you dumb f**k.

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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3729: Aug 19, 2019 08:21:00 pm
      I get people having no sympathy for him he doesn't deserve it personally but I do think it's a sad situation, Jürgen warned him against it he could have easily helped us to to 2 CL titles and the Prem.
      You can argue we wouldn't have signed both VVD and Alisson but it's a waste of talent I would have liked him back can see why Klopp and the club wouldn't want him, Emre Can has done exactly the same, not as good as Couts but Can was a big head who thought he was bigger than Liverpool
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3730: Aug 19, 2019 11:31:22 pm
      Kind of an odd thing for the boss to say. Are we skint?

      "When I first heard about it, I thought ‘that makes sense’. As weird as it sounds, we couldn’t afford the deal. He’ll fit in well at Bayern.”
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3731: Aug 19, 2019 11:49:45 pm
      Kind of an odd thing for the boss to say. Are we skint?

      "When I first heard about it, I thought ‘that makes sense’. As weird as it sounds, we couldn’t afford the deal. He’ll fit in well at Bayern.”

      I think it’s the 120m option to buy at the end of the loan. Doesn’t sound like Coutinho is expecting to go back to Barca after it, that’s what I think Klopp was referring to.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3732: Aug 20, 2019 12:03:18 am
      Good luck to the wee man.

      On the money front, I read that we are all paid up by barca, they dont owe us anything.

      Great timing by Barcelona,  messi out injured and now so are both suarez and dembele.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3733: Aug 20, 2019 12:19:56 am
      If he stayed his back would have probably played up!
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3734: Aug 20, 2019 08:27:57 am
      Plenty of beer in Munich to drown his great sadness in.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3735: Aug 20, 2019 09:10:18 am
      I think it’s the 120m option to buy at the end of the loan. Doesn’t sound like Coutinho is expecting to go back to Barca after it, that’s what I think Klopp was referring to.

      No way Bayern are going to pay 120m either.

      Especially as they will likely buy Sane next Summer.

      Coutinho will go the way of James will be another loan to Bayern next season then he will end up leaving Barca on a free in three years.
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      Reply #3736: Aug 20, 2019 09:25:13 am
      No way Bayern are going to pay 120m either.

      Especially as they will likely buy Sane next Summer.

      Coutinho will go the way of James will be another loan to Bayern next season then he will end up leaving Barca on a free in three years.

      Thanks Karl Heinz Rummenige.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3737: Aug 20, 2019 09:44:34 am

      You're welcome ;)
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3738: Aug 20, 2019 09:58:41 am
      Glad that rat enjoyed his dream move in farselona.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3739: Aug 20, 2019 12:50:35 pm
      Kind of an odd thing for the boss to say. Are we skint?

      "When I first heard about it, I thought ‘that makes sense’. As weird as it sounds, we couldn’t afford the deal. He’ll fit in well at Bayern.”

      https://mobile.twitter.com/MaddockMirror/status/1163576289929965569
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3740: Aug 20, 2019 01:00:14 pm

      The deal offered to English clubs was more expensive than what Bayern was offered.
      20M loan fee plus wages v 8M loan fee plus wages.

      It's no wonder the Liverpool and Spurs walked away from it.
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3741: Aug 20, 2019 02:38:27 pm
      I get people having no sympathy for him he doesn't deserve it personally but I do think it's a sad situation, Jürgen warned him against it he could have easily helped us to to 2 CL titles and the Prem.
      You can argue we wouldn't have signed both VVD and Alisson but it's a waste of talent I would have liked him back can see why Klopp and the club wouldn't want him, Emre Can has done exactly the same, not as good as Couts but Can was a big head who thought he was bigger than Liverpool

      Both their own and their agents doing. Leave them too it as they most definitely won't be returning here under Klopp.

      Klopp was spot on with his comment when Coutinho left:

      "I told him stay here (at Liverpool) and they will end up building a statue in your honour. Go somewhere else, to Barcelona, to Bayern Munich, to Real Madrid, and you will be just another player. Here you can be something more.”
      « Last Edit: Aug 20, 2019 04:41:49 pm by HUYTON RED »
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3742: Aug 20, 2019 04:00:10 pm
      Great timing by Barcelona,  messi out injured and now so are both suarez and dembele.

       :lmao:
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3743: Aug 21, 2019 01:01:26 am




       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool > FC Barcelona)
      Reply #3744: Aug 25, 2019 07:01:49 am
      Klopp was spot on with his comment when Coutinho left:

      "I told him stay here (at Liverpool) and they will end up building a statue in your honour. Go somewhere else, to Barcelona, to Bayern Munich, to Real Madrid, and you will be just another player. Here you can be something more.”

      Old saying :    When you leave Liverpool .... the only way is down.

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      Reply #3745: Aug 25, 2019 04:19:58 pm
      Old saying :    When you leave Liverpool .... the only way is down.

      Let's not think this is true for all cases. You have Xabi Alonso, Suarez, and Mashcerano, who've won a lot. You may have a point in case of how it would've impacted their own status among the fans (had they stayed), but as for silverware, you can see the facts for that.
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      Reply #3746: Aug 26, 2019 10:52:38 am
      Let's not think this is true for all cases. You have Xabi Alonso, Suarez, and Mashcerano, who've won a lot. You may have a point in case of how it would've impacted their own status among the fans (had they stayed), but as for silverware, you can see the facts for that.

      As Skip was saying, the old saying was "The only way was down".
      It wasn't like that for years because of the state LFC was in and the draw of the big Spanish clubs,
      hence Alonso, Suarez, Mascherano, leaving. The perfect storm of club in crisis and Barca/Madrid.

      Now though it's starting to look like Klopp has achieved his aim to make players view LFC as their end destination and not a stepping stone. Of course the club will need to build on that, in all areas.
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      Reply #3747: Aug 26, 2019 12:24:11 pm
      As Skip was saying, the old saying was "The only way was down".
      It wasn't like that for years because of the state LFC was in and the draw of the big Spanish clubs,
      hence Alonso, Suarez, Mascherano, leaving. The perfect storm of club in crisis and Barca/Madrid.

      Now though it's starting to look like Klopp has achieved his aim to make players view LFC as their end destination and not a stepping stone. Of course the club will need to build on that, in all areas.

      Well, we weren't in a good state when Torres left us and he flunked so badly after that. Xabi Alonso left us when we had our best season under Rafa.

      so really it always depends on the players mentality.
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      Reply #3748: Aug 26, 2019 01:08:08 pm
      Well, we weren't in a good state when Torres left us and he flunked so badly after that. Xabi Alonso left us when we had our best season under Rafa.

      so really it always depends on the players mentality.

      Torres was never quite the same player due to injury.
      Alonso and Rafa had a falling out, although I've no doubt he'd have gone to Madrid at some stage anyway.
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      Reply #3749: Aug 27, 2019 06:38:55 pm
      Well, we weren't in a good state when Torres left us and he flunked so badly after that. Xabi Alonso left us when we had our best season under Rafa.

      so really it always depends on the players mentality.

      Xabi's transfer fee also cleared certain debts!!

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