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      Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Feb 15, 2013 11:38:21 pm


      Big game for us coming up and surprised to see no pre match thread so far so I thought I'd have a go.

      A must win game for us I feel as much as to shake off our current bad run and to get some positivity back before the massive task of overturning the deficit in the Europa League game on Thursday.

      TEAM NEWS

      Liverpool have Daniel Sturridge available after he was cup-tied against Zenit St Petersburg.New signing Philippe Coutinho also had to sit out that game, but could make his full debut.

      Swansea boss Michael Laudrup must choose between Garry Monk and Kyle Bartley to replace the injured Chico Flores.The Swans returned from a warm weather training camp in Dubai this week with no further injury concerns.

      MATCH FACTS

      Head-to-head
      -Swansea are unbeaten in their last four games against Liverpool in all competitions (W2, D2).

      -Liverpool have failed to score in any of the three Premier League meetings between the sides - two 0-0 draws and a 1-0 defeat.

      -The Swans have never won in 11 league matches at Anfield (D3, L8).

      -The last time Swansea lost to Liverpool was an 8-0 away defeat in an FA Cup third-round replay in January 1990. It remains Swansea's joint-highest defeat.

      Liverpool
      -Liverpool are the only club yet to win against a side currently in the top half of the table (14 matches).

      -They are the first team in Europe's top five leagues this season to have 500 shots (including blocked shots).

      -The Reds are currently on an eight-game winless streak in home games played on a Sunday.

      Swansea
      -Only 10 of the 29 league goals Swansea have conceded this season have been in away games.

      -Swansea have dropped just two points from winning positions in the Premier League this season, fewer than any other team.

      -Michu has scored five headers in the league this season, more than any other player.

      Sturridge will be a massive boost if fit and also if selected Coutinho could be a creative spark the we have missed over the last week or so but what we need to see is us imposing our game on them and getting the much needed three points.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #1: Feb 16, 2013 12:50:51 am
      Fair do's Si.

      I'm assuming a lot of us are feeling a bit sh*t lately. The big arsehole that was West Brom and then F***ing Zenit, feels like we've been winded to be honest.

      No matter how much of an enthusiast you are, LFC can kick you good style in the bollocks at times.

      All the more reason to go out and tw*t Swansea all over the show. I'm assuming there's a few people who've already wrote us off for Sunday. I can't blame them to be frank and I'm not that confident myself.

      But if ever there was an excuse to learn how to close people down, then this game provides that platform. The fundamental elements of defending need to be put in place in this game.

      I'm expecting a huge mastery of defending.
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      Reply #2: Feb 16, 2013 01:09:55 am
      Good work Si on the op  :gt-happyup:

      I think Kenny's just said it all for me really  :( It actually gets quite depressing when you make the effort to get up early every home game, costing me a small fortune every time I travel up, and then your faced with a miserable result, and the journey home always seems twice as long   :'(

      I just want a bit of consistency in the team, would be lovely to know your going to see a good game of footy with the right result at the end, another Norwich game would be boss, so nice and relaxed watching that game and know we're not going to lose.

      It will be far from easy against Swansea, i've gone for a very tight win for the Redmen, at least it sounds like Sturridge will be back anyway.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #3: Feb 16, 2013 01:32:03 am
      several of key things for me going into this game

      - what would our midfield look like
      - is suarez able to find his touch again.
      - how well we can handle their striker

      I'm cautiously optimistic but I know once we go down a goal, we'll be done for.  I just hope sturridge and suarez are able to create some magic fast and early.

      Will be a tough match. 

      Reina
      enrique  Skrtel   Agger  johnson
      lucas coutinho Gerrard
      downing suarez
      sturridge

      or swap out lucas for henderson.  Sterling unfortunately has been poor lately so I wouldnt start with him.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #4: Feb 16, 2013 02:38:22 am
      How many goals have we conceded from the arc at the edge of our box? It started with Gera strike in the opening game against WBA and it still continues into the last game against Zenit. I'm loosing patience, I'll try something incoventional and just plonk Enrique to patrol the arc and make sure no opposing players gets a free shot at our goal and let him bomb forward to support the attack at every given opportunity. It's as good as converting him from a wing back to a full midfielder. We need combative players in midfield where we got overan in the game against Zenit.

      Wisdom will cover the right back and switch Johnson to the left. 4th is as good as out of sight, BR might as well try something different and see how it works.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #5: Feb 16, 2013 02:46:50 am
       It's time to get back on the bike so as to speak,no excuses we have got to go out and bring the 3 points in and get back on a winning streak.I am fed up with dominating games only to throw the points away with stupid mistakes,if some players think that life at Anfield is difficult then show them the door.
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      Reply #6: Feb 16, 2013 06:56:45 am
      Sturridge is playing so we have a chance of winning as our attack looks dangerous and capable of scoring when Sturridge leads the line.Hope he keep up his good form before getting injured.Our defence is so poor any team will fancy themselves scoring against us.If i'm right,the majority of our starting line-up for the past month or so consists of senior,experience players with some youngsters forming up the rest.Our squad is young but our starting line-up isn't.Maybe,the problem with our transition doesn't just falls to young age,quality or the recent growing pains claims.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #7: Feb 16, 2013 07:56:21 am
      We need to win this game.... simple as that. We certainly should win this game.

      I would rest Suarez for this one especially if Coutinho is fit enough to start.

                                          Reina
       Johnson         Skrtel               Agger           Enrique

                                      Lucas

                     Henderson          Gerrard

              Downing   Sturridge  Coutinho   

      Although I would like to play an extra midfield player I don't think Allen's form is up to much at the moment, so Downing gets the nod for me over Borini or Sterling.

      Really just got to take our chances and defend much better than we have recently and it should be a walk in the park. Going for 2-1 after our recent problems, but in all honesty I can see us scoring 4 or 5 if the players respond in the right manner.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #8: Feb 16, 2013 08:21:05 am
      How many goals have we conceded from the arc at the edge of our box? It started with Gera strike in the opening game against WBA and it still continues into the last game against Zenit. I'm loosing patience, I'll try something incoventional and just plonk Enrique to patrol the arc and make sure no opposing players gets a free shot at our goal and let him bomb forward to support the attack at every given opportunity. It's as good as converting him from a wing back to a full midfielder. We need combative players in midfield where we got overan in the game against Zenit.

      Wisdom will cover the right back and switch Johnson to the left. 4th is as good as out of sight, BR might as well try something different and see how it works.

      I'd say equally or more concerning is the way we defend crosses. Seem to be conceding from corners alot recently.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #9: Feb 16, 2013 08:50:11 am
      Good work Si on the op  :gt-happyup:

      I think Kenny's just said it all for me really  :( It actually gets quite depressing when you make the effort to get up early every home game, costing me a small fortune every time I travel up, and then your faced with a miserable result, and the journey home always seems twice as long   :'(

      I just want a bit of consistency in the team, would be lovely to know your going to see a good game of footy with the right result at the end, another Norwich game would be boss, so nice and relaxed watching that game and know we're not going to lose.

      It will be far from easy against Swansea, i've gone for a very tight win for the Redmen, at least it sounds like Sturridge will be back anyway.
      I certainly know where your coming from Cas its a long depressing ride home for some thats for sure ,there was a time think it was around early 2000s when we seemed to be winning one losing one you know the drill.

      Remember my dad saying at the time its more like driving a thousand miles home rather than the 200 odd but in all that time i still had faith the next time we went that we would win ,sadly for me anyway that faith is slowly being destroyed ,getting fed up of seeing our players in the press saying they should do better ,i want to actually see them give a fck and look like its hurting them as much as us ,as for sunday i hope we go and smash the fckers ,but that is hope and not the reality speaking.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #10: Feb 16, 2013 09:21:31 am
      Great OP.

      I'd go: Reina; Wisdom, Skrtel, Coates, Johnson; Lucas, Henderson, Suso; Downing, Sturridge, Coutinho.

      Save Gerrard and Suarez for Thursday when we're really going to need them on top form.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #11: Feb 16, 2013 09:29:23 am
      sh*te OP Si, leave it to the usuals in future please.

















       ;D

      Only joking mate, great first match thread!


      Like others, I'm not too confident which is sad. Normally when I expect us to fall though I end up pleasantly surprised.

      Sturridge fit?
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #12: Feb 16, 2013 09:48:49 am
      not ready for this yet, still got the arse with our last 4 results.
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      Reply #13: Feb 16, 2013 11:04:14 am
      not ready for this yet, still got the arse with our last 4 results.

      I was a bit like this mate but we have to look forward.

      Honestly? I've rarely been this pessimistic going into a game as I think on current form it will be a tough one but if we play as well as we can we still have too much quality in our side to be troubled by them in my opinion.

      Reina

      Johnson  Carra  Agger  Enrique

      Lucas  Gerrard

      Henderson

      Downing  Sturridge  Suarez

      I'd still leave Coutinho on the bench for now and bring him on early in the second half as the side I've picked is, I feel, our strongest at the minute.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #14: Feb 16, 2013 11:24:17 am
      A tough one to call this as it comes so soon after some disappointing results.

      Swansea are no pushovers as we've already found out this season but if we play at our best we should have enough to win.

      I too am losing faith, patience and if I'm being truly honest, I'm losing interest and that for me is the most upsetting.  I'm really having to fight hard to justify how much time and effort I'm spending on my team and I haven't felt like this since Souness  >:(

      Still going for the win as otherwise what's the point.  3-1 to the Redmen.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #15: Feb 16, 2013 11:48:35 am
      I'm assuming a lot of us are feeling a bit sh*t lately. The big arsehole that was West Brom and then f**king Zenit, feels like we've been winded to be honest.

      Not to mention throwing it away against an Arsenal side there for the taking and a City side in utter disarray atm. Seven dropped points in three games does not make me confident going in to this game.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #16: Feb 16, 2013 12:03:59 pm
      Not on the box I take it?

      Id give Luis a rest here if Sturridge is fit. In fact Id probabaly make a few changes to Thursday for both rest and because some need to be left out for form

      Wouldn't mind see us 3 at the back with Lucas sat in front of them. 3 1 4 2 formation, chance of it though are 0

                     
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                    Lucas

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                Borini Sturridge
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      Reply #17: Feb 16, 2013 12:16:04 pm
      I would take a draw here to be honest,win would be awesome though.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #18: Feb 16, 2013 12:23:35 pm
                             Reina

      Johnson   Agger     Carra     Enrique

                      Lucas    Gerrard                               

      Borini           Coutinho        Suarez

                          Sturridge

      I think Coutinho in the hole could provide us with a bit more creativity than having Henderson, Gerrard and Lucas all sort of hanging around and taking turns to push forward. Also, I still don't rate Downing and Sterling isn't on form, so I think Borini should be given a go.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #19: Feb 16, 2013 12:29:22 pm
      I have been to more cheerful funerals. The game is at Anfield, we are playing Swansea..... not Barcelona. 
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #20: Feb 16, 2013 12:50:02 pm
      I have been to more cheerful funerals. The game is at Anfield, we are playing Swansea..... not Barcelona. 

      Thank f*ck  :D
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      Reply #21: Feb 16, 2013 01:07:49 pm
      I think we shoud sit back and hit them on counter  against swansea.
      if we allow them to get their passing game against us they would destroy us. Hoope Br will motivate the players and break their passings as ealry as possible. No shame in playing the dirty tactics against better teams. It worked well for chelsea last season
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #22: Feb 16, 2013 02:44:15 pm
      I have been to more cheerful funerals. The game is at Anfield, we are playing Swansea..... not Barcelona. 

      Well we'll make them look like Barca when they are on the counter!!!
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      Reply #23: Feb 16, 2013 03:33:44 pm
      We still need to clock up some wins as we need to finish 6th atleast for Europa league spot.
      Another good team that we have struggled against and if we evrr needed a good performance it's now.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #24: Feb 16, 2013 03:44:13 pm
      I have been to more cheerful funerals. The game is at Anfield, we are playing Swansea..... not Barcelona. 

      Yeah but if they play anything like they did in the League Cup, it will be a tough game, Michu took the piss that night and made Gerrard look a bit of a mug with the move that added their third.

      Glad Sturridge is back though.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #25: Feb 16, 2013 04:22:13 pm
      Reina; Wisdom, Skrtel, Carra, Enrique; Lucas, Henderson, Coutinho; Downing, Sturridge, Borini.

      Give Johnson, Agger, Gerrard, and Suarez a rest for Thursday. Anyway, I'll go 3-0 with Coutinho grabbing all 3.
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      Reply #26: Feb 16, 2013 05:14:07 pm
      This is a tough test.  Infact I think Swansea are the best team we can face now before the Europa.  There's no practise or training better than a competitive match.

      Swansea have all the ingredients to give our defenders, midfielders, strikers and wingers problems.  Wish Chico Flores was not injured he's better than their other choices.

      A losable as well as winnable fixture.  Play all the people who will play in europa.  They need to learn the fundamentals of their position and the game.  If not starting they need to play 45 mins atleast.  Finding the right balance between going forward and attacking to get 2/3 goals in 90 mins without conceding should be the most important thing in this match imo rather than the result.  So hoping we can score 2 without Sturride.  After and after we score two we bring in Sturrdige for some rest to Suarez.  Borini need a run in his confidence is gone.  he needs to play cos we got no other choice. He and Suarez needs to score goals no other strikers. he needs game time practice time.

      Prediction if we went for a win win Liverpool 0 Swansea 2
      Prediction if went to find the right tactics and balance Liverpool 2 Swansea 1
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #27: Feb 16, 2013 07:45:06 pm
      Reina
      Carragher     Agger   
      Johnson                   Enrique
      Lucas   Gerrard
      Henderson
      Downing                      Coutinho
      Sturridge

      I'd rest Suarez, personally. I think he's looked a bit leggy of late, so have him on the bench to bring on for about 25 minutes. Undecided between starting Coutinho or Borini, went with Coutinho.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #28: Feb 17, 2013 12:31:41 am
       In the opening post the kick off is 15:00 can someone please check as I thought it was 17:00.I would hate to get out of bed at 4 o clock in the morning and find that I have missed half the match,cheers. :-\
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #29: Feb 17, 2013 12:34:17 am
      In the opening post the kick off is 15:00 can someone please check as I thought it was 17:00.I would hate to get out of bed at 4 o clock in the morning and find that I have missed half the match,cheers.
      That time is right Billy
      « Last Edit: Feb 17, 2013 10:40:23 am by Reslivo »
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      Reply #30: Feb 17, 2013 01:17:46 am
      Not to mention throwing it away against an Arsenal side there for the taking and a City side in utter disarray atm. Seven dropped points in three games does not make me confident going in to this game.
      It's a ball-ache. Confidence seems fragile at the moment. Our defensive mindset needs to improve.

      I have been to more cheerful funerals. The game is at Anfield, we are playing Swansea..... not Barcelona. 

      Have you been to Anfield lately mate? West Brom was like someone had farted in a morgue. There was a bit of movement to begin with, but it just went flat for a while, with a hissing/booing noise at the end.

      The "game is at Anfield" notion has gone well out of the window lately, unfortunately. We're playing a very good enthusiastic team who have no reputation pressure.

      I'm up for it as I always am. But our team need to show some steel and keep a clean sheet.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #31: Feb 17, 2013 06:56:12 am
      In the opening post the kick off is 15:00 can someone please check as I thought it was 17:00.I would hate to get out of bed at 4 o clock in the morning and find that I have missed half the match,cheers.
      That time is right Billy
      Thanks for that ,I have set my alarm for 3:30 am ,time to make a cup of tea before kickoff at 4am New Zealand time.
      « Last Edit: Feb 17, 2013 11:24:20 am by Reslivo »
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #32: Feb 17, 2013 08:52:27 am
      sh*t or bust today for me... Win this and things will no doubt turn around and look a lot better - lose and it will be doom and gloom for another week! If we lose this it will be the end of any asperaions for Europe next season. This might not be the worst thing in the world - providing a few players dont jump ship!

      Swansea play soom good football and can finish - this is no walk in the park as many teams have found out this season. However, we need to step up today and finally beat someone above us in the premership!

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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #33: Feb 17, 2013 09:05:31 am
      It's a ball-ache. Confidence seems fragile at the moment. Our defensive mindset needs to improve.

      Have you been to Anfield lately mate? West Brom was like someone had farted in a morgue. There was a bit of movement to begin with, but it just went flat for a while, with a hissing/booing noise at the end.

      The "game is at Anfield" notion has gone well out of the window lately, unfortunately. We're playing a very good enthusiastic team who have no reputation pressure.

      I'm up for it as I always am. But our team need to show some steel and keep a clean sheet.

      I just find it difficult to accept the pessimism when the opposition is at best a midtable side. Maybe it is me failing to come to terms with the realities of the "new Liverpool" but Swansea at Anfield (whether there is noise or not) fails to fill me with fear and trepidation. I may not expect us to run riot (I think we can) but I do expect us to win.

      I know we have all had our expectations dampened this season, but we surely haven't fallen so far.......have we? 
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #34: Feb 17, 2013 09:21:58 am
      I know we have all had our expectations dampened this season, but we surely haven't fallen so far.......have we? 

      Reality is S@int - yes we have... Before you can improve you need to accept where you are - we are also at best a midtable team. We have some world class players mixed in with some players that really houldnt be here. Being a biast f**ker I often look at our team and cant think of a player who we can drop to improve, but the reality is there are a lot of them!

      We should be laughing our socks off at Swansea coming to Anfield - expecting a battering, but that is no longer the case... We havent beaten a team above us all season - we have drawn 2 and lost 2 in the last 4. Yes, you could argue that we played City and Aresnal - but it was also Oldham and WBA...

      Today, we need to show someting - and the players need to sort out their lifes. I am sick and tired of reading about how we as fans need to 'sort it out' and 'help the team'. You want to know why Anfield rocked in the 70' & 80's - its because we had a brilliant team who won a lot. When you are battering teams then you get the feel good factor at the club - this is carried by the fans. I remeber when we lost a gam my first thought would be - I feel sorry for who were playing next, wait for the backlash!

      If the team fail to show up again today then we need to ask serious questions...
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #35: Feb 17, 2013 09:28:53 am
      Saint a + for you for being positive.   Dont know how to give a plus.  It changed before you just clicked + now it goes to good post than you put 1 and enter is it?  I firmly believe negativity leads to more negativity.

      I for one would look to see a side that is put to score 3 goals and concede none featuring the europa squad and subs coming in later like Sturridge.  can't wait to see BR tactics tonight.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #36: Feb 17, 2013 10:36:35 am
      I'd say equally or more concerning is the way we defend crosses. Seem to be conceding from corners alot recently.

      Yes, I do agree it's equally concerning with the way we defended against crosses. I'd believe the back 4 will have to do a proper job while there must be one other player patrolloing the arc. I'm not sure was it supposed to be Lucas's or Hendo's job. I'm sure both were missing when Zenit scored their first goal. If we had a player patrolling areas around the arc, I'm sure we could have avoided at least a goal conceded and would have altered the outcome of the match.

      The way we defended corners is somewhat different from what I've seen other teams do, other teams had 3 defenders, like a bunch of grapes defending the centre part of the goal while 2 more other players defending each of the post. We man mark players inside our box and allowed other opposing players to sneak in the last moment for a free header.

      Having said that, I hope the players will play like men possessed to make up for the dissapointment in the last 2 games.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #37: Feb 17, 2013 10:41:58 am
      Why would you rest Suarez?
      Even on his off days he's still the best we've got by a mile
      Leaving Luis out would be a huge boost to Laudrup a big mistake imo

      I'd play Luis Sturridge & Coutinho and give the demoted fans in the ground (me included)
      summat to smile about.

      All out full on attack is Brendans best policy today & win if he wants to ease some pressure.
      Anything less will not do do..

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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #38: Feb 17, 2013 11:04:21 am
      Have not posted since Thursday, one positive is to have Sturridge back. Perhaps give Suarez a rest and play Borini up front with Sturridge. Defence is a serious problem at the moment. Decided to go for a score draw, another defeat is unthinkable.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #39: Feb 17, 2013 11:05:18 am
      Reality is S@int - yes we have... Before you can improve you need to accept where you are - we are also at best a midtable team. We have some world class players mixed in with some players that really houldnt be here. Being a biast f**ker I often look at our team and cant think of a player who we can drop to improve, but the reality is there are a lot of them!

      We should be laughing our socks off at Swansea coming to Anfield - expecting a battering, but that is no longer the case... We havent beaten a team above us all season - we have drawn 2 and lost 2 in the last 4. Yes, you could argue that we played City and Aresnal - but it was also Oldham and WBA...

      Today, we need to show someting - and the players need to sort out their lifes. I am sick and tired of reading about how we as fans need to 'sort it out' and 'help the team'. You want to know why Anfield rocked in the 70' & 80's - its because we had a brilliant team who won a lot. When you are battering teams then you get the feel good factor at the club - this is carried by the fans. I remeber when we lost a gam my first thought would be - I feel sorry for who were playing next, wait for the backlash!

      If the team fail to show up again today then we need to ask serious questions...

      Serious question I'm asking myself is are we a mid-table team at the moment. Sadly, I've to admit we are at the moment, the result doesn't lie. Next question I'm asking, is the team imbalance in performance at the moment with the old guards (some not performing to expectations), while young players can only performed to the best of their ability and we expect them to show some weaknesses, and player's acquired by BR (except Sturridge) did not perform to expectations while players purchased from last season did not also excel.

      I'm also asking questions, what does BR expects the players he purchased to be, is Allen a DM an attacking MD? If he's a DM I'm dissapointed, he got pushed off the ball  by opposition players easily and clearly he's no DM too lighweigh for it, and if he's an AM he's done nothing so far to suggest he's one. All I've seen so far is tidy side and back passes from Allen. Borini, ok I've been on his back lately but in all fairness to him I'm not sure whether heknows what is his exact role. He ran around the pitch very much and I don't see any effective link between him and Suarez. Does the coach has a game plan how both can complement each other in training or everthing is done at random during match day? How about Assaidi, he seems to have dropped off the radar. Is he sick or injured or something? If not, then why BR bought him when he does not intend to use his service. I don't remember he played badly, he was a nuisance to defenders and tracked back to defend. These are some of the questions I don't seems to have an answer at the moment.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #40: Feb 17, 2013 11:20:29 am
      I understand saints point about being positive as we are home to Swansea as normally I would be as I still believe our squad of players is much better than theirs.

      But it's our current form that has me pessimistic much more then who we are playing.

      Having said that it's the day of the game now so I'm still looking forward to see if we can put this bad run behind us.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #41: Feb 17, 2013 11:28:16 am
      Expect us to win a home game against anybody, an away game against most teams.

      That's just how it is. That's the mentality we should have both as fans and as a team.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #42: Feb 17, 2013 11:59:01 am

      Because we have the biggest game of our season on Thursday? We need him and Gerrard on top form for potentially 120 minutes to have a chance of going through. Why tire them out today when realistically we have nothing to play for?
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #43: Feb 17, 2013 12:00:13 pm
      Today is a big game if we want to qualify for the Europa League next season
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #44: Feb 17, 2013 12:01:55 pm
      I'm frustrated (again!) with current form but I expect us to win - I always do, been my mindset since I started following the club 36yrs ago.

      I want to see some pride and some snarling defiance to go with whatever pretty football we play - the debate as to how pretty it is belongs to another thread but I want to see Liverpool put Swansea in their place.

      This game should be much more about us.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #45: Feb 17, 2013 12:03:17 pm
      In my opinion it's just about out best XI if rumours are true:

      Reina; Johnson, Carra, Agger, Enrique; Lucas, Gerrard, Hendo; Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge

      That team should absolutely batter Swansea, the only weak link I see is Hendo but then we don't have a great alternative. Really hope to see us destroy them and bring some belief back to the side because this run has us all feeling down and we need a strong performance to give everyone a lift. Front 3 I expect to have far too many guns, come on red men!!
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #46: Feb 17, 2013 12:04:49 pm
      In my opinion it's just about out best XI if rumours are true:

      Reina; Johnson, Carra, Agger, Enrique; Lucas, Gerrard, Hendo; Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge

      That team should absolutely batter Swansea, the only weak link I see is Hendo but then we don't have a great alternative. Really hope to see us destroy them and bring some belief back to the side because this run has us all feeling down and we need a strong performance to give everyone a lift. Front 3 I expect to have far too many guns, come on red men!!

      If that's the 11 then it's a good one and well enough to beat Swansea.

      I do disagree with you on Hendo mate as I don't see him as a weak link on current form.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #47: Feb 17, 2013 12:16:50 pm
      If that's the 11 then it's a good one and well enough to beat Swansea.

      I do disagree with you on Hendo mate as I don't see him as a weak link on current form.

      Don't get me wrong Si, I think the lad has improved plenty, it's just in my opinion that position requires more goal threat and creativity, but fair enough.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #48: Feb 17, 2013 12:17:46 pm
      Come on boys, lets get out of this rut and smash them.

      Would make this place a bit more desirable to come to without all the moaning bitches too.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #49: Feb 17, 2013 12:30:09 pm
      Who the fck are you to call fellow fans moaning  bitches there are fans on here who have invested time loyalty hard earned cash ,and given up loads to watch their beloved reds ,they have every right to voice an opinion when we have to listen to some of the sh*t, coming out of anfield ,  and been as badly mis managed as we have in the last couple of seasons ,

      Most fans can take a loss mate its the garbage that BR has been spouting after said losses that irks the most. Sorry for straying off topic just feel as flat as a withches tit at the moment,,anyhow come on you red men lets be having it today eh,.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #50: Feb 17, 2013 12:39:17 pm
      Who the fck are you to call fellow fans moaning  bitches there are fans on here who have invested time loyalty hard earned cash ,and given up loads to watch their beloved reds ,they have every right to voice an opinion when we have to listen to some of the sh*t, coming out of anfield ,  and been as badly mis managed as we have in the last couple of seasons.

      Freedom of speech. Its been like reading a W.I. forum in here for the last 2 weeks.
      Go unravel your knickers, I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #51: Feb 17, 2013 12:43:58 pm
      Fck all wrong with my kecks mate, as you say entitled to your opinion just like the rest of the moaning bitches eh. ;)
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #52: Feb 17, 2013 12:48:12 pm
      Fck all wrong with my kecks mate, as you say entitled to your opinion just like the rest of the moaning bitches eh. ;)
      exactly!
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #53: Feb 17, 2013 01:01:37 pm
      Bickering will get you both a warning, regardless of opinion.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #54: Feb 17, 2013 01:05:41 pm
      For me it has to be this

                                  Riena
      Johnson      Skrtle            Agger       Enrique
                       
                        Lucas           Gerrard

      Downing           Henderson              Saurez
                             
                               Sturridge
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #55: Feb 17, 2013 01:16:57 pm
      Not on the box I take it?

      Id give Luis a rest here if Sturridge is fit. In fact Id probabaly make a few changes to Thursday for both rest and because some need to be left out for form

      Wouldn't mind see us 3 at the back with Lucas sat in front of them. 3 1 4 2 formation, chance of it though are 0

                     
                    Reina

         Wisdom Carra Skrtel

                    Lucas

      Johnson Gerrard Suso Coutinho

                Borini Sturridge

      Like the look of that formation BRIAN but might be tempted to start Louis instead of Borini, just to put more pressure on thier back 4  from the off. Think a lot of their goals have been scored from 1 on 1s following quick counters so 3 at the back, and 5 in the middle, even be it a 1 + 4, It might starve their forwards of a bit of service.
       Still not convinced about our chances being anything better than a draw, considering our recent form and history against these. Having said that, a side without Downing, Henderson and Allen has to have a bit more bite in the middle of the park, something we have been clearly missing of late. Swans do like to play a decent passing game, but only if you give them room to do so. Press the ball quickly and they tend to sit back deeper and counter.  My heart says a good win is on the cards, and a recovery of pride, unfortunately, my head says draw.  :'( :( :'( :(
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #56: Feb 17, 2013 01:18:10 pm
      For me it has to be this

                                  Riena
      Johnson      Skrtle            Agger       Enrique
                       
                        Lucas           Gerrard

      Downing           Henderson              Saurez
                             
                               Sturridge

      You don't want to start Coutinho against a team he could do a LOT of damage against? Phillipe should start this one. If there's concerns over his physicality then games like these against another possession based team in Swansea are well set up for him to ease in to Premiership football.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #57: Feb 17, 2013 01:22:31 pm
      Reina; Johnson, Carra, Agger, Enrique; Lucas, Gerrard, Hendo; Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge

      Hhmmmm! If thats the starring line up, just hope Hendo mans up on the physical as we aren't sure if Coutinho is gonna be aggresive enough for the prem just yet. No doubting his tallent, but a big step up in physicality.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #58: Feb 17, 2013 01:23:00 pm
      Looking forward to this, we're due a good result!
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #59: Feb 17, 2013 01:37:34 pm
      Not looking forward to this one if im honest Swansea seem to do what were trying to do better just hope they have one eye on the League Cup.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #60: Feb 17, 2013 01:42:47 pm
      Not long now until the team is announced and time, for me at least, to get fully behind the manager and the lads and lets get a much needed three points.
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #61: Feb 17, 2013 02:34:22 pm
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      Re: Liverpool V Swansea City 17/02/2012 KO 15.00
      Reply #62: Feb 17, 2013 02:34:24 pm
      Just had a look at their team and it is very weak indeed.

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