Suarez, Bale or RVP? Honestly

As Bale is becoming Spurs' one-man team and playing amazing, I ask - who's the best player in the PL this season?

Bale has only started playing amazing since the turn of the year while Suarez & RVP have been doing it all year! People saying Bale is the 3rd best in the world and should get Player of the Year is laughable!

I think he is a ridiculously fantastic player, but hasn't been doing it since the start of the season like Suarez & RVP!

Suarez, all day, all night, all year. He scores goals and is more creative than Van Persil and Bale combined.

Suarez and RvP carried the team for the first part of the season.
Typical media sh*te.

Bale puts a run of games together in the second half of the season and everyone forgets there was a first half of the season.

I'd say RvP deserves it.
Has been the difference in United strolling to the title.

I'll take that over Bale carrying Spurs to Champions League,
given that they were 4th last season. People also seem to forget that.

Suarez and RVP are very close to be honest.

Suarez is a lot more creative and has greater ability in terms of beating players but Van Persie is a much better finisher.

Bale is a mile off those two. Yes, he's the in-form player right now but when you take the whole season into account Suarez, RVP and Mata have been better.

If I were putting a team together and had the pick of the three...Suarez all day and all night for me.

Most creative, most dangerous, and most passionate.

Bale seems to get a lot of goals due to the other team giving him too much space to shoot. Granted he's finishing those opportunities, but Suarez rarely is given room and usually has to create his own shots from nothing.

RVP....meh.

For skills,passion,flair,creativity and more over work rate it is suarez.

If you don't have much creative players in the team to support striker, Suarez is the man for you. If you want some one to convert those half chances, RVP is the man.

Suarez and RvP carried the team for the first part of the season.
Typical media sh*te.

Bale puts a run of games together in the second half of the season and everyone forgets there was a first half of the season.

I'd say RvP deserves it.
Has been the difference in United strolling to the title.

I'll take that over Bale carrying Spurs to Champions League,
given that they were 4th last season. People also seem to forget that.

Great post ur spot on mate! Fair enough he's the player in form now but everyone is forgetting the season isnt just 8 or 9 games long and Suarez and RVP have been more or less carrying their respective teams all season long!

(Club/Country Overall) Luis Suarez: 381 Matches - 215 Goals || Van Persie: 457 Matches - 207 Goals


Just some food for thought.

I'll take Suarez's "finishing" over RVP's any day of the week personally.

If I were putting a team together and had the pick of the three...Suarez all day and all night for me.

Most creative, most dangerous, and most passionate.

This ^ ^ ^ all day, every day.

I think RVP right now, but if I had to choose a player to have in the team it would certainly be Suarez. Think about the fact that Van Persie has only been peaking the past 3 seasons, and Suarez still has those years ahead of him.

(Club/Country Overall) Luis Suarez: 381 Matches - 215 Goals || Van Persie: 457 Matches - 207 Goals


Just some food for thought.

I'll take Suarez's "finishing" over RVP's any day of the week personally.

Those career statistics aren't comparable and say very little about their current finishing ability.

Suarez, he's head and shoulders above both of them.

If you're unable to understand the difference opportunity makes in the argument between him and Van Persie then you're likely to side with Van Persie. United have scored 64 goals this season, we have only managed 49. So far Van Persie has 19 (1 penalty) goals and Luis 18 (0 penalties), now when you consider the fact that either United have more goal threats or simply create more goal scoring opportunities (clearly backed up by the goals scored tally) then you'll realise that Van Persies opportunities to score will be better, more frequent or more likely, both.

Luis' ability on the ball and dribbling skills are way above the level of Van Persie by so far even Van Persie's biggest fans would struggle to argue this point. His relentless energy, willingness to chase down every ball and leading from the front alone set him above Van Persie. Luis' versatility also sets him above Van Persie, this season alone he has played wide left, centre forward, false 9 and in the 10 role and looked outstanding in every one of them. I would not expect Van Persie to be able to fill all these roles as effectively.

Van Persie may is regarded as a more clinical  but even last season I was saying that Luis looked extremely unlucky and I advised everyone to back him at 20/1 for top goalscorer this season. I think dismissing a career record that shows Luis' goals per minutes played at 1 every 159 minutes and Van Persie at 1 every 199 is in the purest sense unbalancing an argument.

The only attribute that I can't argue Van Persie is better at is heading the ball, other than that I'd take Luis every single time, the lad is pure magic and 11 Suarez's would beat 11 Van Persie's by an enormous margin.

I just can't get enough!

Unfortunately these days it looks as though where the team in the table is also has some bearing on who wins 'PLAYER of the season'. As a result of this Van Persie would be my player of the season.

Suarez comes close but Van Persie has been able to guide his team to the top of the table with a 12 point gap. If our defence was better this season I have no doubt that we would be in the top 4 and Suarez would then be a stronger candidate for player of the season.

Suarez has created at least 90% of his goals on his own, Van Persie has created about (I'd guess at...) 60% of his goals.

I think RVP right now, but if I had to choose a player to have in the team it would certainly be Suarez. Think about the fact that Van Persie has only been peaking the past 3 seasons, and Suarez still has those years ahead of him.

Think that sums it up very nicely.

I think dismissing a career record that shows Luis' goals per minutes played at 1 every 159 minutes and Van Persie at 1 every 199 is in the purest sense unbalancing an argument.

I can understand all the rest but this truly makes no sense to me. For one because most of Luis record is that high because of an inferior league while Van Persie played far longer in the EPL. Also, Van Persie almost went down the same road as Robben, being consistently injured throughout his early career. It wasn't untill after his injuries issues only 3 seasons ago that he started coming to his own and really started scoring in his new position. With that in mind I'm not sure what those past statistics are supposed to say about who is better right now this season.

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I can understand all the rest but this truly makes no sense to me. For one because most of Luis record is that high because of an inferior league while Van Persie played far longer in the EPL. Also, Van Persie almost went down the same road as Robben, being consistently injured throughout his early career. It wasn't untill after his injuries issues only 3 seasons ago that he started coming to his own and really started scoring in his new position. With that in mind I'm not sure what those past statistics are supposed to say about who is better right now this season.

I understand your point but the point I was making, and I believe FL Red was also, was to demonstrate that despite Van Persie leading the goalscoring table Luis is in fact a more frequent scorer. So therefore given the same opportunities would in fact have out scored Van Persie and therefore the 19 / 18 argument should not be taken as a stand alone indicator for being a more clinical finisher.

I understand your point but the point I was making and FL Red was to demonstrate that despite the Van Persie leading goals, Luis is actually a more frequent scorer so therefore given the same opportunities would in fact have out scored Van Persie and therefore the 19 / 18 argument should not be taken as a stand alone point indicator for being a more clinical finisher.

Yeah, but that's because you're assuming Van Persie scores that much because he gets more and better chances at United. How can you say that when he did the same thing last season at Arsenal, carrying that team by himself almost in a similar fashion as Suarez has done for us this season.

Yeah, but that's because you're assuming Van Persie scores that much because he gets more and better chances at United. How can you say that when he did the same thing last season at Arsenal, carrying that team by himself almost in a similar fashion as Suarez has done for us this season.

I explained it earlier in my initial post Bier, it was based on my assumption that Van Persie gets more frequent and better opportunities. I did say that if you didn't agree with this then you would say Van Persie.

It is simply my belief that United carry more goal threat from more sources that will create more frequent and better opportunities for their clear danger man. I also don't believe that Van Persie could create the chances that Luis can and given the same opportunities that Luis would score more, I'm happy to disagree with you on this but it is simply my belief.

There's no doubt Van Persie gets better chances this season, but also has far less attempts. He has needed quite a bit less shots to get to his goals this season, but he has also taken far less shots overall. I just think it's wrong to assume Van Persie wouldn't thrive just as much as Suarez currently is in an overall less performing team, as Van Persie did just that last season at Arsenal too. He created many of his own goals then too, scoring from impossible positions sometimes. I kind of even think Van Persie would score more this season if he was still at Arsenal, as he'd be more important for the team and would have far more attempts at goal.

RVP
Suarez







Bale.

Suarez, he's head and shoulders above both of them.

If you're unable to understand the difference opportunity makes in the argument between him and Van Persie then you're likely to side with Van Persie. United have scored 64 goals this season, we have only managed 49. So far Van Persie has 19 (1 penalty) goals and Luis 18 (0 penalties), now when you consider the fact that either United have more goal threats or simply create more goal scoring opportunities (clearly backed up by the goals scored tally) then you'll realise that Van Persies opportunities to score will be better, more frequent or more likely, both.

Luis' ability on the ball and dribbling skills are way above the level of Van Persie by so far even Van Persie's biggest fans would struggle to argue this point. His relentless energy, willingness to chase down every ball and leading from the front alone set him above Van Persie. Luis' versatility also sets him above Van Persie, this season alone he has played wide left, centre forward, false 9 and in the 10 role and looked outstanding in every one of them. I would not expect Van Persie to be able to fill all these roles as effectively.

Van Persie may is regarded as a more clinical  but even last season I was saying that Luis looked extremely unlucky and I advised everyone to back him at 20/1 for top goalscorer this season. I think dismissing a career record that shows Luis' goals per minutes played at 1 every 159 minutes and Van Persie at 1 every 199 is in the purest sense unbalancing an argument.

The only attribute that I can't argue Van Persie is better at is heading the ball, other than that I'd take Luis every single time, the lad is pure magic and 11 Suarez's would beat 11 Van Persie's by an enormous margin.

I just can't get enough!

This, and lets not forget that Suarez has got more heart than the pair of the other two put together.

Only one of the three I would/do pay to see play.

Suarez without a second thought.