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      manwithnoname
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #46: Jan 16, 2014 04:53:05 pm
      That tiny sand blasted sh*t hole which punches above its weight by bailing out countries and snapping up industries keeping the likes of you in work, investing in the game whilst others take out will build some of the best Stadia leaving the likes of you in awe, having a football culture does not mean Qatar cannot host such events, did the USA have a football culture when it hosted the World Cup?.

      Human rights abuses take place in majority of the countries in the world but we still go to sporting events if they host them ie: Russia (Sochi).

      Brazil has human rights issues too, should we take away the WC from them & have England host them so its affordable to you?.

      I don't think you can really compare Brazil or the US getting the World Cup with Qatar. Not with a straight face anyway.

      And the only reason Qatar have any profile in business, football or indeed anything else at all, is because it's sitting on oil an d gas supplies which has catapulted its quarter of a million citizens - or rather, the ones related to the ruling family - to untold wealth.

      Before that they caught fish.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #47: Jan 16, 2014 05:52:47 pm
      I don't think you can really compare Brazil or the US getting the World Cup with Qatar. Not with a straight face anyway.

      And the only reason Qatar have any profile in business, football or indeed anything else at all, is because it's sitting on oil an d gas supplies which has catapulted its quarter of a million citizens - or rather, the ones related to the ruling family - to untold wealth.

      Before that they caught fish.

      Well since they last caught fish they have gone out & spent their wealth on bigger fish.

      Don't be so bitter.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #48: Mar 31, 2014 06:51:56 am
      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/2022-world-cup-qatar-accused-3303458

      57p an hour, drinking salt water and living in squalor, if true it's fvckning disgusting!
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      Reply #49: Jun 01, 2014 05:47:19 pm

      Fifa faces call to vote again over 2022 World Cup after leaked Qatari emails

      Communications purport to show series of payments to officials by Mohamed bin Hammam, who was Fifa's member for Qatar

      Fifa is facing calls to rerun the bidding competition for the 2022 World Cup after allegations that a former top Qatari football official paid $5m (£2.98m) to win support for the nation's campaign to host the event.

      Labour said Qatar should lose the 2022 World Cup and urged those involved to resign if the Fifa corruption allegations detailed in the Sunday Times were true. Clive Efford, the shadow sport minister, said the new revelations "called the governance of football into question".

      "No one will have any confidence in a Fifa investigation run by Sepp Blatter," he said. "If these allegations are true then those involved should resign."

      Lord Macdonald, the former director of public prosecutions, described Fifa as a "bit of a cesspit" and suggested there was evidence of a "very serious crime" following the reports.

      He told Sky News's Murnaghan programme: "The idea of another voting session with all this money sloshing around is almost too much to bear. But on the other hand, if I can pretend to be a prosecutor again for a minute, this is evidence of a very serious crime. And the fact that the allegation is that they used dollars, US dollars, means that the justice department in Washington has jurisdiction over this … the United States of course are in the World Cup finals. If the justice department started to take an interest in this, I think Fifa would feel the heat very, very quickly."

      The Sunday Times said it had obtained millions of emails and other documents relating to alleged payments made by Mohamed bin Hammam, the then Fifa executive member for Qatar. The paper said Bin Hammam, also the former Asian Football Confederation (AFC) president, used slush funds to pay out the cash to top football officials to win a "groundswell" of support for Qatar's World Cup bid.

      John Whittingdale, chairman of the House of Commons culture, media and sport select committee, called for the bidding competition to be held again and said it would be impossible for Fifa to brush aside the revelations.

      "It is a further demonstration of the need for a complete change in the way that Fifa operates but also that there is now an overwhelming case that the decision as to where the World Cup should be held in 2022 should be run again," Whittingdale told the paper.

      The sports minister, Helen Grant, said: "These appear to be very serious allegations. It is essential that major sporting events are awarded in an open, fair and transparent manner."

      The allegations come less than two weeks before the start of the World Cup in Brazil and bring fresh scrutiny on the 2010 vote, which gave football's biggest tournament to the tiny desert state. The process is under investigation by Fifa's independent ethics prosecutor, Michael Garcia.

      Qatar has also come under fire for its labour laws, in the wake of an international outcry over conditions for migrant workers before the 2022 World Cup, which followed a Guardian investigation into workplace abuse in the Gulf state.

      Bin Hammam is no longer a committee member of world football's governing body after being caught up in a corruption scandal surrounding his failed campaign for its presidency in 2011. The Sunday Times alleged that he exploited his position as an executive committee member to help to secure votes from key members of its 24-man ruling committee that helped Qatar win the right to host the World Cup. Qatar defeated bids from the US, Japan, South Korea and Australia.

      According to the newspaper, Bin Hammam used 10 slush funds controlled by his private company and cash handouts to make dozens of payments of up to $200,000 into accounts controlled by the presidents of 30 African football associations who influenced how Africa's four executive members would vote. He also allegedly hosted lavish junkets for these African officials at which he handed out almost $400,000 in cash.

      Last month, Blatter said it had been a mistake to choose Qatar for the World Cup, forcing Fifa to try to limit the damage. "Yes, it was a mistake of course, but one makes lots of mistakes in life," said Blatter, Fifa's president, in an interview with the Swiss broadcaster RTS. "The technical report into Qatar said clearly it was too hot but the executive committee – with a large majority – decided all the same to play it in Qatar."

      Blatter, who is standing for another term as president in 2015, is believed to have voted for the USA to host the 2022 World Cup, while his prospective rival for the presidency, Uefa's Michel Platini, voted for Qatar and has been closely linked with the plans for the 2022 tournament.

      The Fifa inspection team ranked Qatar as the only "high-risk" option overall, yet it was still chosen by 14 of the 22 voting members of the executive committee in December 2010. The Fifa president said it was now "probable" that it would be played in the winter rather than the summer due to the heat. Blatter insisted, however, that Qatar, which spent huge sums on ambassadors and development programmes, had not "bought" the World Cup.

      Jim Boyce, Fifa vice-president, said he would be in favour of rerunning the vote if allegations that widespread corruption was involved in the bid were proved. Boyce, who was not on the executive committee of the world governing body at the time of the vote, said Garcia, would have to widen his investigation.

      Boyce told Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme: "As a member currently of the Fifa executive committee, we feel that any evidence whatsoever that people involved were bribed to do a certain vote, all that evidence should go to Michael Garcia, whom Fifa have given full authority to.

      "If Garcia's report comes up and his recommendations are that wrongdoing happened for that vote for the 2022 World Cup, I certainly as a member of the executive committee would have absolutely no problem whatsoever if the recommendation was for a revote."

      Anna Soubry, minister for defence personnel, welfare and veterans, said: "Somebody somewhere has got to get a serious grip on Fifa about the way that they run these competitions."

      Jim Murphy, the shadow international development secretary, also called for a rethink if the allegations were found to be true.

      He told BBC Radio 5 Live's Pienaar's Politics: "If these allegations and the contents of the emails that the Sunday Times now has turn out to be true there can be no question about this. The thing wasn't done fairly, it wasn't done openly and it would have to be cancelled and rerun entirely. The building that is happening in Qatar should be paused and they should have a fair and open competition."

      Qatar's World Cup officials said the bid committee had "always upheld the highest standard of ethics and integrity".

      The country's Supreme Committee for Delivery and Legacy said: "Mohamed bin Hammam played no official or unofficial role in Qatar's 2022 bid committee. As was the case with every other member of Fifa's executive committee, our bid team had to convince Mr Bin Hammam of the merits of our bid.

      "We are cooperating fully with Mr Garcia's ongoing investigation and remain totally confident that any objective inquiry will conclude we won the bid to host the 2022 Fifa World Cup fairly.

      "Following today's newspaper articles, we vehemently deny all allegations of wrongdoing. We will take whatever steps are necessary to defend the integrity of Qatar's bid and our lawyers are looking into this matter. The right to host the tournament was won because it was the best bid and because it is time for the Middle East to host its first Fifa World Cup."

      http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/01/fifa-call-vote-qatar-world-cup-emails-mohamed-bin-hammam


      Damaging to say the least.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #50: Jun 01, 2014 06:35:26 pm
      Hope it gets stripped from Qatar and the US could somehow host it, I would love to be able to have the chance to actually see World Cup games.

      Truth be told we already have the infrastructure and the stadiums in place.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #51: Jun 01, 2014 06:40:13 pm
      Hope it gets stripped from Qatar and the US could somehow host it, I would love to be able to have the chance to actually see World Cup games.

      Truth be told we already have the infrastructure and the stadiums in place.

      Rather the England or Aussies have it than the USA.

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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #52: Jun 01, 2014 09:07:02 pm
      Let's face it everyone already knew not everything was above board.

      Rather the England or Aussies have it than the USA.



      I second that. Totally unbiased of course. :f_whistle:
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #53: Jun 01, 2014 10:21:59 pm
      Rather the England or Aussies have it than the USA.



      I would love to see it in England but they were bidding for the other world cup. I don't know what rules would apply if a re vote was held. That said England could host the World Cup tomorrow such is the brilliant infrastructure in the country. Travesty that they've only hosted it once.

      But I'd agree with you on Australia. Never been to the country at all and have no connection to it but I'd love to see the World Cup there considering the great job they did at the Sydney Olympics and the 2003 Rugby World Cup.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #54: Jun 01, 2014 11:05:04 pm
      Considering I think it was the Aussies who missed out in the bidding to Qatar, should only be fair they get first crack at it, before anyone else, should Fifa decide to sanction Qatar, can't see it happening though.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #55: Jun 02, 2014 02:44:42 am
      Considering I think it was the Aussies who missed out in the bidding to Qatar, should only be fair they get first crack at it, before anyone else, should Fifa decide to sanction Qatar, can't see it happening though.

      Nah, Australia was the first bid voted out. Per Wikipedia they were, in order: Qatar, USA, South Korea, Japan, Australia.

      This made me chuckle. Saw it on Twitter:

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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #56: Jun 02, 2014 04:00:04 am
      Nah, Australia was the first bid voted out. Per Wikipedia they were, in order: Qatar, USA, South Korea, Japan, Australia.

      This made me chuckle. Saw it on Twitter:



      Fair enough! But seeing as every other country bar Qatar have already hosted it, don't see why they shouldn't be able to hold it.

      But from a personal point of view, agree with everything Frankly, Mister Shankly says, it is a travesty England have only held it once, especially with the state of the art Football Stadiums we now have.

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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #57: Jun 02, 2014 06:27:03 pm
      Fair enough! But seeing as every other country bar Qatar have already hosted it, don't see why they shouldn't be able to hold it.

      But from a personal point of view, agree with everything Frankly, Mister Shankly says, it is a travesty England have only held it once, especially with the state of the art Football Stadiums we now have.



      I agree with you on Australia. Being American, I obviously wanted it here, but if we lost the bid, I wanted Australia. South Korea and Japan co-hosted the 2002 tournament, so either would have been my third pick. Nothing much against Qatar, but a summer tournament in the desert is very risky to the health of both players and spectators. I'm all for expanding the game in other areas, but they simply didn't think that one through.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #58: Jun 02, 2014 06:57:35 pm
      I agree with you on Australia. Being American, I obviously wanted it here, but if we lost the bid, I wanted Australia. South Korea and Japan co-hosted the 2002 tournament, so either would have been my third pick. Nothing much against Qatar, but a summer tournament in the desert is very risky to the health of both players and spectators. I'm all for expanding the game in other areas, but they simply didn't think that one through.

      Money talked!
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #59: Jun 02, 2014 07:15:02 pm
      They've paid for it, they should get it.  Certainly not the first time it's happened in FIFA's history, won't be the last.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #60: Jun 02, 2014 09:02:45 pm
      Since Qatar received the nomination to host the WC there has been an effort to reverse that decision but climate has been used as a tool to undermine the bid & of course allegations of brown envelopes.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #61: Jun 06, 2014 09:06:15 pm
      Since Qatar received the nomination to host the WC there has been an effort to reverse that decision but climate has been used as a tool to undermine the bid & of course allegations of brown envelopes.

      To be fair I think if social media would of been around in the past, allegations of brown envelopes to those voting for World Cup hosts would of been exposed before. Everyone knows how dirty Fifa are, I don't think this is a deliberate dig at Qatar, just fifa's processes and the way they go about things.
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      Re: Qatar World Cup
      Reply #62: Aug 04, 2014 08:14:33 am
      Lineker sickened by corruption claims
      Gary Lineker says corruption allegations around FIFA are ''nauseating'' and has criticised the role of it's president Sepp Blatter.
      FIFA are investigating claims of wrongdoing relating to the decision to award Qatar the 2022 World Cup.
      ''It makes you sick, the whole FIFA thing, the corruption at the top level is nauseating, Sepp Blatter has run it like a dictatorship for so long and he comes out with so much nonsense'', stated the BBC presenter

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28632355


      That's a price on Lineker's head, his days are numbered.

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