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      Tiago Ilori (Liverpool -> Reading)

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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #600: Feb 12, 2016 09:18:11 am
      Thanks for posting that, Purple Monkey mate.  I had the impression that he played well on the night but watching that - well, if he can turn in performances like that week in, week out we have no concerns at CB (other than which of the first choice ones are good enough to partner him).

      He showed 3 qualities we've sorely missed and which have been our Achilles heel in defence - positional sense, anticipation, and awareness of what's happening around him.  That he can head, block, pass, and do the little naughty things that all good CB's must, is as clear as a mountain stream.  Oh, and it was great to see him actually communicating with Mings and Lucas, pointing, directing and encouraging. 

      Sure, there were a couple of misplaced passes and a blatant pull back, but all CB's do that.  If you watch John Stones, the golden god of England's future defence, he makes a dozen ricks like that and worse every game.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #601: Feb 12, 2016 02:17:36 pm
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLk53gMG90o

      Few mistakes here and there, but you can see the quality in him. He actually looks more assured on the ball than any of our CBs.

      was good to see this vid did not remember him touching the ball so much in the game, he looked really good needs to start more games then we will see what he is all about. don't know why he was out on loan with a right to buy him at villa
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      Reply #602: Feb 13, 2016 01:22:27 am
      5 kilos of muscles up and a couple nasty fights in a pub and he could be a monster.

      Just needs to get stronger physically and emotionally. What a talent  :champ: Thank you Brendan.
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      Reply #603: Feb 13, 2016 01:37:37 am
      5 kilos of muscles up and a couple nasty fights in a pub and he could be a monster.

      Just needs to get stronger physically and emotionally. What a talent  :champ: Thank you Brendan.

      For what? If you want to thank Rodgers, might as well thank Sherwood too :s

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      Reply #604: Feb 13, 2016 01:58:53 am
      Sory PM but you same as me knew f**k all about someone called Tiago Abiola Delfim Almeida Ilori until Rodgers signed him for LFC.
      Now you blame Brendan for sending him out to a couple loans as the kid wasnt up to rough PL defending yet? Please ffs
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      Reply #605: Feb 13, 2016 02:30:33 am
      Really liked the central defensive partnership in the week. I must admit I'd rather see a little and large combo in the centre aswell even more so in the modern day football. I really enjoyed watching Ilori, yes he gave the ball away a couple of times but who doesn't. There were many more positives than negatives in my view, especially given a position no one' s grabbing by the balls and making themselves starting 11 certainties. He needs games that's for sure but I really hope he's given those here, and not sold off for us to endure more centre backs who in all honest don't know how to play the position, and have been merely moulded in to cb's due to physique etc.
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      Reply #606: Feb 13, 2016 04:22:31 am
      Sory PM but you same as me knew f**k all about someone called Tiago Abiola Delfim Almeida Ilori until Rodgers signed him for LFC.
      Now you blame Brendan for sending him out to a couple loans as the kid wasnt up to rough PL defending yet? Please ffs

      Not all signings were scouted by Rodgers you know. He probably agreed to it like how he agreed to Alberto, Aspas or whoever the committee scouted and suggested without him doing a thorough check.

      Why do I assume this? Because Rodgers clearly didn't like what he saw when Ilori arrived, and gave up on him pretty much straight away by loaning him out 3 times without giving him a chance. Oh, the 3rd time was pretty much a f**k off and don't come back loan too, even after a fantastic summer at the Euros.
      And how do you know he wasn't ready for PL in his 1st or 2nd season? He did pretty decent when out on loan in the Spanish and French leagues if you followed his progression, and who's to say he wouldn't have adapted in the Prem back then?

      If he stays and fulfill his potential, it won't be Rodgers i'd be thanking, but the manager than nurtures him and gave him the opportunity.
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      Reply #607: Feb 14, 2016 01:24:47 am
      Not all signings were scouted by Rodgers you know. He probably agreed to it like how he agreed to Alberto, Aspas or whoever the committee scouted and suggested without him doing a thorough check.

      Why do I assume this? Because Rodgers clearly didn't like what he saw when Ilori arrived, and gave up on him pretty much straight away by loaning him out 3 times without giving him a chance. Oh, the 3rd time was pretty much a f**k off and don't come back loan too, even after a fantastic summer at the Euros.
      And how do you know he wasn't ready for PL in his 1st or 2nd season? He did pretty decent when out on loan in the Spanish and French leagues if you followed his progression, and who's to say he wouldn't have adapted in the Prem back then?

      If he stays and fulfill his potential, it won't be Rodgers i'd be thanking, but the manager than nurtures him and gave him the opportunity.

      well said mate
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #608: Feb 15, 2016 11:15:58 pm
      I like Illori and hope he is kept and played this season and next alot more.
      I personally need to see him in a Prem League game to have a proper perspective on him.
      Toure is gone by next season (contract), Caulker (loan is up) and possibly one of Sakho (over rated) , Skrtel (hasn't improved nowhere nearly enough and is hardly a leader) or Lovren (still have faith that he could be very good) due to Matip coming in.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #609: Mar 18, 2016 05:40:56 pm
      just been called up for the Portugal Olympic Team
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      Reply #610: Mar 18, 2016 10:18:23 pm
      just been called up for the Portugal Olympic Team

      Excellent news.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #611: Mar 18, 2016 11:06:32 pm
      Hopefully he puts in a storming performance as the way things stand at the moment he has a limited career at LFC.
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      Reply #612: Mar 18, 2016 11:11:41 pm
      Hopefully he puts in a storming performance as the way things stand at the moment he has a limited career at LFC.

      Expect he will be sold in the to be honest.
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      Reply #613: Mar 28, 2016 08:35:22 pm
      played today for Portugal Olympic U23 team they beat Mexico 4-0 and was one of the best players on the field along with Nelson Semedo, Ruben Neves, and Iuri Medeiros, Ruben Neves just pitting them to MOTM
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #614: Apr 27, 2016 06:20:30 pm
      will he make the Bench? now that Sakho is not Contesting and will get 2 years ban minimum
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      Reply #615: Apr 27, 2016 07:22:00 pm
      will he make the Bench? now that Sakho is not Contesting and will get 2 years ban minimum

      I doubt that he will.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #616: Jul 13, 2016 10:53:12 pm
      Was nice to see Klopp happy with Ilori's performance and mention him in the interview! Perhaps he does have a future with us after all!!!
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      Reply #617: Jul 14, 2016 12:11:25 am
      Was nice to see Klopp happy with Ilori's performance and mention him in the interview! Perhaps he does have a future with us after all!!!

      Especially with Sakho injured again and Gomez on the long plan re recovery. I was glad to hear Klopp make a point of mentioning him as well.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #618: Jul 14, 2016 04:51:35 pm
      Not really helping his cause by leaving for a month at the Olympics at the end of this month, however.
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      Reply #619: Jul 14, 2016 04:54:27 pm
      Not really helping his cause by leaving for a month at the Olympics at the end of this month, however.

      So...he's supposed to turn down playing at the Olympics with his national team?  Maybe he thinks it's the best way for him to get gametime?

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      Reply #620: Jul 14, 2016 08:59:14 pm
      So...he's supposed to turn down playing at the Olympics with his national team?  Maybe he thinks it's the best way for him to get gametime?

      Obviously I didn't say that. He can make the decision based on what is most important to him.

      We were talking about him contending for a spot in the squad, maybe as a 4th-choice center back and that it was good that Klopp mentioned him. I suggested Sakho's injury might open the door a bit more, but then saw the news about The Olympics. If he's gone for about the same amount of time that Sakho is going to be out than that it isn't going to help him get games for Liverpool, is it?
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      Reply #621: Jul 14, 2016 09:05:39 pm
      Obviously I didn't say that. He can make the decision based on what is most important to him.

      We were talking about him contending for a spot in the squad, maybe as a 4th-choice center back and that it was good that Klopp mentioned him. I suggested Sakho's injury might open the door a bit more, but then saw the news about The Olympics. If he's gone for about the same amount of time that Sakho is going to be out than that it isn't going to help him get games for Liverpool, is it?

      Not sure how it's going to help him anyway....likely Matip and Lovren are the starters. So unless there's an injury he's not going to get games anyway and when Sakho comes back, he'll be right back where he was. I actually think playing in the olympics could be better for him. He'll have a chance to show what he can do since he's not getting much chance at Liverpool..
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      Reply #622: Jul 14, 2016 09:23:57 pm
      Not sure how it's going to help him anyway....likely Matip and Lovren are the starters. So unless there's an injury he's not going to get games anyway and when Sakho comes back, he'll be right back where he was. I actually think playing in the olympics could be better for him. He'll have a chance to show what he can do since he's not getting much chance at Liverpool..

      Playing in the Olympics might help him get a chance with someone else, sure.

      I just said 3rd or 4th choice so not pegging him as a contender for starting. But sometimes 3rd or 4th choice players DO get games, depending on circumstances. It would have been higher in the pecking order than where he was after coming back from loan last season.

      I DID NOT say he should have turned down Portugal, just that being away won't help him fight his way up the selection ladder here.
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      Re: Tiago Ilori Player Thread
      Reply #623: Jul 15, 2016 01:44:46 pm
      Another who was "misused" but it turns out isn't actually good enough under Jürgen either. Bet his algorithms were impressive pre signing, just a shame his football is less so.
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      Reply #624: Jul 15, 2016 02:37:09 pm
      Another who was "misused" but it turns out isn't actually good enough under Jürgen either. Bet his algorithms were impressive pre signing, just a shame his football is less so.
      :laugh: That particular list keeps growing.

      Sometimes the penny has one hell of a distance to drop but it always gets there Mick .  8)

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