Victor Moses (Chelsea/Stoke)

I don't think there is a debate that Moses has been poor.

I don't think there is a debate that Moses has been poor.

I think the only debate to be had is why he has been poor.

I think the only debate to be had is why he has been poor.

Because he isn't really good enough ( for me anyway) just think he is fairly average who can do the odd bit of good stuff.

Not good enough, not got a great attitude..

To be fair to the lad he is in limbo with the loan..
I'm really not a fan of loans anyway

Because he isn't really good enough ( for me anyway) just think he is fairly average who can do the odd bit of good stuff.

Not good enough, not got a great attitude..

To be fair to the lad he is in limbo with the loan..
I'm really not a fan of loans anyway

I think he's better than he's shown at his time here, but for me he's a squad player not a first choice.

I still struggle to understand why chelsea bought him in the first place.

He's not really a winger is he? He doesn't think creatively enough. He thinks he's a wide forward ala Ronaldo but has neither the ability or the nouse.

I thought he could do a job - but ultimately I just don't think he's a team player.

I think he's better than he's shown at his time here, but for me he's a squad player not a first choice.

I still struggle to understand why chelsea bought him in the first place.

Like they do with a lot, to stop others getting them.

You're right he is a squad player at our level.. A starter for a Wigan or the like.

He believes he is better hence his poor attitude to not starting

He believes he is better hence his poor attitude to not starting

I think that too but if he concentrated on doing his best he would be a far better player than he is now.

Like they do with a lot, to stop others getting them.

You're right he is a squad player at our level.. A starter for a Wigan or the like.

He believes he is better hence his poor attitude to not starting

Or maybe BR was right his crappy training?
It would certainly explain why he looks all over the shop tactically when he plays.

Or maybe BR was right his crappy training?
It would certainly explain why he looks all over the shop tactically when he plays.

One in the same I'd imagine.

Attitude not good which effects his effort in training

One in the same I'd imagine.

Attitude not good which effects his effort in training

He reminds me of Ryan Babel, but without the same amount of talent

He strikes me as a player who thought he had made it when he signed for Chelsea and doesn't really want to learn from the likes of Brendan.

Probably thinks a loan is beneath him yet if he was as good as he maybe thinks he is he would still be playing for Chelsea.

He strikes me as a player who thought he had made it when he signed for Chelsea and doesn't really want to learn from the likes of Brendan.

Probably thinks a loan is beneath him yet if he was as good as he maybe thinks he is he would still be playing for Chelsea.

I think he's just dense mate.

He looks clueless as to where he's supposed to be and what he's supposed to be doing when he plays, hence the comparison with Babel.

I think he's one of those players who if he is left to play with minimal instructions he does a lot better.
Unfortunately for him, BR's system relies a lot on tactical discipline, and I reckon he gets confused (amongst other things).

He strikes me as a player who thought he had made it when he signed for Chelsea and doesn't really want to learn from the likes of Brendan.

Probably thinks a loan is beneath him yet if he was as good as he maybe thinks he is he would still be playing for Chelsea.

you should be reading minds because that's as close to the truth as you could get

Let's get behind him now. With our failure to sign anyone.. whether we like it or not.. we will need Moses! He has a part to play.

Hope he plays it well.

Is he injured?
Because if not then even BR, who is a man of patience, has clearly lost his over Victor.
Utter waste of money and more importantly, a shirt number.

Is he injured?
Because if not then even BR, who is a man of patience, has clearly lost his over Victor.
Utter waste of money and more importantly, a shirt number.

On the bench last night

Is he injured?
Because if not then even BR, who is a man of patience, has clearly lost his over Victor.
Utter waste of money and more importantly, a shirt number.

Running up and down the line warming up last night.

Not good enough
Attitude worse

Terrible terrible player! Has soooo much potential just doesn't have any bite or motivation to him.

I already forgot we still have him. Think it's safe to say he ain't gonna be here next season!

strikes me as a player who thought he had it made after a big move to cheslea then a loan to us, then realised he still had to put the work in, but came up short because he couldn't be arsed or thought he's above it.

I know that sounds harsh, but that's how it looks to me.

To be honest I cannot think of scenario right now where bringing him on would seem a good idea. He looks thoroughly uninterested, and his signing has proven to totally pointless.

He seems like a massive lazy divvy

Think he could be a smart option for say a mid table team as he WONT get to even train at Chelsea next season they will get rid, I honestly wouldn't mind if we kept him for say 3-4mil on low wages with incentives to earn more on performances. We need a big squad next season he could be our cup player to rest Sterling or Sturridge.