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      "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."

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      Son Of A Gun
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1472: Nov 23, 2014 10:15:57 pm
      Rodgers does not need to stop playing Gerrard.

      He needs to play him more advanced for the first 60 or last 30.

      He also needs to surround Gerrard with players that have more than one brain cell.

      Once we have players capable of intelligent movement then all the talk about Gerrard will stop.

      Oh, one more thing. Rodgers must sign some players that at least possess one bollock, preferably a pair of bollocks though.

      We need to start easing the pressure on Gerrard, not increasing it.

      No, no, no, no, no - Rodgers must NOT play him 'in an advanced position'.

      I've said it before and I'll say it again - his legs have gone, he has no athleticism, he is a statue, he cannot tackle and in an increasingly fast paced Premier League and an increasingly ineffective Gerrard, it's a recipe for disaster.

      We complain on here time and time again how immobile our forwards are, yet at the same time, we think putting an immobile Gerrard up near the front is going to help us? Give me strength.

      What's more, if we are meant to play a high intense game, Gerrard is not the answer.

      As I said, a great actor knows when to leave the stage. If Gerrard wants to keep his legendary status amongst fans, he must retire now or risk damaging his reputation with yet more shocking performances.
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      Reply #1473: Nov 23, 2014 10:18:05 pm
      You'll be asking opposition players not to run past Gerrard next :D

      Pretty much this. Such garbage positioning time and again.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1474: Nov 23, 2014 10:26:09 pm
      The time for talking about Gerrard is over. Maradona was jettisoned at Napoli by the time he hit 30 (albeit by underhand tactics but he was, I know the drugs scandal may have been instigated by other Italian interests after the world cup 90 but it worked for Napoli too) same with Raul at Madrid etc. These club legends are really a problem when they start to drop in performance, unless it is handled properly. Maradona was the greatest but imagine if he hung around till about 35 and they were still building a team around him. He couldn't have been a bit part player. Stevie is a real problem at this point because of his history with the club. We can't move forward metaphorically and literally if he is DM.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1475: Nov 23, 2014 10:29:33 pm
      With the 60k knocked of Johnson's contract put it into the Stevie bucket and get him signed up now.

      I have a better idea.

      Let them both retire.

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      Reply #1476: Nov 23, 2014 11:03:15 pm
      An excellent point sir. Agger and Reina come to mind. Players that stood up to him.

      Oh my, how much we are missing their leadership qualities. Players that loved this Club and loved us.

      If Reina was still here Mignolet would be dropped and the same goes for Agger with Lovren.

      Since Pepe and Reina left they have gone into semi retirement rather than playing at the top level.

      Those are not the players we need to be building a side around.
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      Reply #1477: Nov 23, 2014 11:27:03 pm
      Since Pepe and Reina left they have gone into semi retirement rather than playing at the top level.

      Those are not the players we need to be building a side around.

      Mate, our whole squad has gone into hibernation mode thus far, what would have been crucial to us & important is to have the experience & leadership of Reina & Agger, once Carra had gone & Stevie has lost his desire it would have been nice to have a Reina or Agger bark orders on the field, both men with this club at heart & only desired good for us.

      I would look to build around Sterling more than any other player at the cloob.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1478: Nov 23, 2014 11:41:28 pm
      Pepe and Reina so good they named him twice. we are in the trenches right now not sure how many of these I would like to go to war with. Just look at the calibre of Sami,Jamie,Didi ,Mascherano, Alonso real characters who knew what it meant to get stuck in.
      I think Sakho might be a bit of a warrior but I think he is out for a while longer.We have a team of whimps.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1479: Nov 24, 2014 07:48:35 am
      Shame seeing Stevie play the way he is. Rodgers should get him out of that DM position once and for all and if he insists on playing him, play him for the last 30 mins just outside the box. He might not have the legs but he's still got a fantastic brain and is capable of creating those little diagonal passes or thru balls for our forwards to hopefully latch onto.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1480: Nov 24, 2014 10:56:38 am
      When was the last time you thought Gerrard had a great game?
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      Reply #1481: Nov 24, 2014 11:02:23 am
      When was the last time you thought Gerrard had a great game?

      I don't think he's had a good game since he slipped at Chelsea.
      Legs are gone, and I think his head may be gone too.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1482: Nov 24, 2014 11:48:49 am
      When was the last time you thought Gerrard had a great game?

      When he was playing further forward and teeing up Balotelli.



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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1483: Nov 24, 2014 11:54:25 am
      When was the last time you thought Gerrard had a great game?
      That brief 20 min against WBA.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1484: Nov 24, 2014 11:57:20 am
      Steven Gerrard has played every minute of the Premier League this season.

      Yesterday he had.

      0 Shots on target
      0 Interceptions
      0 Tackles
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1485: Nov 24, 2014 12:13:37 pm
      When was the last time you thought Gerrard had a great game?

      Too stoned to remember!
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1486: Nov 24, 2014 12:31:11 pm
      Should be the last time we see Gerrard play that position.  It won't be though.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1487: Nov 24, 2014 12:35:43 pm
      Steven Gerrard has played every minute of the Premier League this season.

      Yesterday he had.

      0 Shots on target
      0 Interceptions
      0 Tackles

      Wow.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1488: Nov 24, 2014 12:36:37 pm

      could be the way forward mate
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1489: Nov 24, 2014 12:57:54 pm
      Last season Gerrard started playing in the deep-lying playmaker role (or whatever term you care to use) in the Stoke game.

      Our record before that game was        played 20 scored 46 conceded 23 points 39
      with Gerrard as deep-lying playmaker played 18  scored 55 conceded 27 points 45 

      39 Points in 20 games or 45 points in 18 games .... you choose.

      There is no doubt that the loss of our strikers has affected Gerrard, the team and our success this season, maybe the manager should have thought about changing the formation and Gerrard's role in it before now?


      Posted this in the Brendan thread ... probably more suitable for this one.

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      Reply #1490: Nov 24, 2014 01:05:11 pm
      39 Points in 20 games or 45 points in 18 games .... you choose.

      What about

      14 Points in 12 games.

      The drop in our points per game tally is startling.
      Where we had been building from 1.8 - 2.0 - 2.5
      we've now dropped off a cliff to 1.167.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1491: Nov 24, 2014 01:19:53 pm
      I don't think he's had a good game since he slipped at Chelsea.
      Legs are gone, and I think his head may be gone too.

      Agree.

      Been poor all season long.



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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1492: Nov 24, 2014 01:24:50 pm
      Agree.

      Been poor all season long.





      Same could be said for the other players mate.
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1493: Nov 24, 2014 01:25:12 pm
      Playing like a man trying not to get a new contract
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      Re: "We Need To Talk About Gerrard."
      Reply #1494: Nov 24, 2014 01:26:50 pm
      Playing like a man trying not to get a new contract

      Or like Johnson, another one offered half wages for the privilege of staying. 

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