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      Ex-PM's Apology Welcomed
      Oct 23, 2013 05:13:55 pm
      John Major Apologises For Lack Of Support
      Former Prime Minister Sir John Major has apologised to the Hillsborough families for his failure to do more to support the campaign for justice when he was PM.
      Speaking at a Parliamentary Press Gallery lunch yesterday Sir John, who was PM between 1990 - 97 said ''we must all say sorry, we should have done more, it's one of many things you look back on and regret''.
       
       
      Margaret Aspinall head of the Hillsborough Families Support Group said ''It is a marked change in attitude and a complete turnaround from being accused and called the names we were to receiving a Pride of Britain award and now getting apologies from Prime Ministers. The Major years were terrible years for the campaign , but to be honest  all governments let us down and at least now they are listening and apologising''.
       
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/former-prime-minister-john-major-6225596
       

      Apologies are just words, the civil servants, the court officials, the Yorkshire police still obfuscate and delay at every opportunity, thankfully the net is closing.
      « Last Edit: Oct 23, 2013 05:27:10 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #1: Oct 23, 2013 05:36:14 pm
      Dreadful shame that Thatcher got out of life without a word of genuine sympathy let alone an apology. The blood boils.

      Now....where are Blair and Brown's apologies?
      « Last Edit: Oct 23, 2013 05:56:30 pm by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Reply #2: Oct 24, 2013 12:21:53 pm
      Dreadful shame that Thatcher got out of life without a word of genuine sympathy let alone an apology. The blood boils.

      Now....where are Blair and Brown's apologies?


      The witch couldn't apologise to save her f**king life, thankfully not necessary now.
      To attempt to compare the evil old b***ard with any Labour PM is quite honestly incomprehensible, she set the establishment version of events in stone, elevated the status of the liars and corrupt officials putting any investigation back years.
      Sir Norman f**king Bettison is a prime example; if not for the ongoing investigation into the f**king liar he would be on the gravy train and be upgraded to Lord f**king liar Bettison in the blink of an eye, fortunately the honours system is shown for what it is - a shield to ward off examination.
      He will be stripped of all that sh*te as will others of his ilk, political tinkering eventually will be exposed leading right back to the instigator - the f**king witch herself.
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      Reply #3: Oct 24, 2013 06:44:57 pm
      The witch couldn't apologise to save her f**king life, thankfully not necessary now.
      To attempt to compare the evil old b***ard with any Labour PM is quite honestly incomprehensible, she set the establishment version of events in stone, elevated the status of the liars and corrupt officials putting any investigation back years.
      Sir Norman f**king Bettison is a prime example; if not for the ongoing investigation into the f**king liar he would be on the gravy train and be upgraded to Lord f**king liar Bettison in the blink of an eye, fortunately the honours system is shown for what it is - a shield to ward off examination.
      He will be stripped of all that sh*te as will others of his ilk, political tinkering eventually will be exposed leading right back to the instigator - the f**king witch herself.

      It's not a case of comparison and I'm not trying to compare them. Blair and Brown turned their nose up to the whole event refusing calls for investigation after investigation, letting down the victims badly.
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      Reply #4: Oct 24, 2013 09:56:48 pm
      Dreadful shame that Thatcher got out of life without a word of genuine sympathy let alone an apology. The blood boils.

      Now....where are Blair and Brown's apologies?

      we have got more chance of signing Messi than getting anything form those two cretins
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      Reply #5: Oct 25, 2013 10:26:29 am
      It's not a case of comparison and I'm not trying to compare them. Blair and Brown turned their nose up to the whole event refusing calls for investigation after investigation, letting down the victims badly.

      Agree mate, pretty shocking their silence but expect nothing less.
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      Reply #6: Oct 25, 2013 10:42:02 am
      It's not a case of comparison and I'm not trying to compare them. Blair and Brown turned their nose up to the whole event refusing calls for investigation after investigation, letting down the victims badly.

      By association there is a perceived comparison with the witch, as stated the f**king creature buried evidence, damned the victims and extolled the perpetrators, the establishment cloaking them with a shroud of conspiracy.
      The intention was to mask the truth and lock it away for as long as possible - if not as they hoped forever.
      Time is the only key that could unlock the conspiracy, even now it is not yet fully investigated - after 24 long years...

      Any attempt to facilitate a formal investigation a decade earlier for instance would have been futile, the truth was too well concealed, indeed any premature proceedure would very likely have been prejudicial to a later enquiry.  As it would giving the liars an opportunity at that juncture, to consolidate the conspiracy
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      Reply #7: Oct 26, 2013 12:35:52 am
      By association there is a perceived comparison with the witch, as stated the f**king creature buried evidence, damned the victims and extolled the perpetrators, the establishment cloaking them with a shroud of conspiracy.
      The intention was to mask the truth and lock it away for as long as possible - if not as they hoped forever.
      Time is the only key that could unlock the conspiracy, even now it is not yet fully investigated - after 24 long years...

      Any attempt to facilitate a formal investigation a decade earlier for instance would have been futile, the truth was too well concealed, indeed any premature proceedure would very likely have been prejudicial to a later enquiry.  As it would giving the liars an opportunity at that juncture, to consolidate the conspiracy

      You cannot excuse Blair and Brown from this one. They were guilty of propping up the cover up and doing little.
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      Reply #8: Oct 26, 2013 12:41:10 am
      Very unusual for a Prime Minister to hold their hands up and say they got it completely wrong and apologised. Obviously didn't expect anything from that cretinous witch but the Labour two of Brown and Blair - yeah, that 'party for the people' - did f**k all. Tony Blair's reaction was 'whats the point' (literally) and Gordon Brown liked to think he was very left wing and for the people, yet this just uncovers more evidence that the useless prat was only ever interested in one thing - himself. One of the f**king worst PM's the country's ever had.

      Fair play to John Major. The only living PM with any hint of respect about him. Shows that not all Tories are bas**rds (lets also remember Tory Michael Heseltine has Freedom of City of Liverpool having played a big part in making the city prosperous again, against the wishes of that nasty bi*ch.)
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      Reply #9: Oct 26, 2013 12:49:21 am
      Very unusual for a Prime Minister to hold their hands up and say they got it completely wrong and apologised. Obviously didn't expect anything from that cretinous witch but the Labour two of Brown and Blair - yeah, that 'party for the people' - did f**k all. Tony Blair's reaction was 'whats the point' (literally) and Gordon Brown liked to think he was very left wing and for the people, yet this just uncovers more evidence that the useless prat was only ever interested in one thing - himself. One of the f**king worst PM's the country's ever had.

      Fair play to John Major. The only living PM with any hint of respect about him. Shows that not all Tories are bas**rds (lets also remember Tory Michael Heseltine has Freedom of City of Liverpool having played a big part in making the city prosperous again, against the wishes of that nasty bi*ch.)

      Brown was too busy helping his mate McBride throw filth at his own MPs and former colleagues than running the country. The c**t. Genuinely think Major is the only Prime Minister of the last 40 years to have something close to a heart which makes his decision to become a Tory all the more surprising!
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      Reply #10: Oct 26, 2013 12:12:59 pm
      You cannot excuse Blair and Brown from this one. They were guilty of propping up the cover up and doing little.
      Don't forget to add Jack Straw to that too.
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      Reply #11: Oct 26, 2013 12:52:46 pm
      You cannot excuse Blair and Brown from this one. They were guilty of propping up the cover up and doing little.

      The ''cover'' as you put it was not as cosmetic as the word would suggest.
      As previously described the establishment had virtually secured the tragedy and it's perpetrators in a set in stone time capsule
      There is still no equible end game in sight after 24 years with the establishment erecting delaying mechanisms as a matter of course.
      This after the ground breaking disclosures of recent years regarding conspiracy, police corruption and political involvement in the concealment of evidence and horrific distortion of casualty information.
      Calls for an investigation preceeding these disclosures would have been pointless and brushed aside by the establishment, irrespective of Cameron's words of placation or Major's ''should have done more'' whimpering, it is farcical that a location for a preliminary hearing took weeks to be arrived at.
      Faced with the damning evidence the perpetrators are confronted with and the liar Bettison is a perfect example, nobody can hazzard a guess as to when anyone will face charges.
      You seem to be under the impression that legal proceedings would have been successful many years before the evidence spoken of was unveiled, patently not the case and anyone advising the relevant PM would make that fact known. 
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      Reply #12: Oct 26, 2013 01:45:22 pm
      The ''cover'' as you put it was not as cosmetic as the word would suggest.
      As previously described the establishment had virtually secured the tragedy and it's perpetrators in a set in stone time capsule
      There is still no equible end game in sight after 24 years with the establishment erecting delaying mechanisms as a matter of course.
      This after the ground breaking disclosures of recent years regarding conspiracy, police corruption and political involvement in the concealment of evidence and horrific distortion of casualty information.
      Calls for an investigation preceeding these disclosures would have been pointless and brushed aside by the establishment, irrespective of Cameron's words of placation or Major's ''should have done more'' whimpering, it is farcical that a location for a preliminary hearing took weeks to be arrived at.
      Faced with the damning evidence the perpetrators are confronted with and the liar Bettison is a perfect example, nobody can hazzard a guess as to when anyone will face charges.
      You seem to be under the impression that legal proceedings would have been successful many years before the evidence spoken of was unveiled, patently not the case and anyone advising the relevant PM would make that fact known. 

      Regardless you surely can't castigate Cameron and Major yet allow Blair and Brown to get away scot free for their disrespect. I'm not any under impression apart from the fact that the government continuously turned their noses up to their desperate right. And we elect these scumbags?
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      Reply #13: Oct 26, 2013 02:30:23 pm
      Regardless you surely can't castigate Cameron and Major yet allow Blair and Brown to get away scot free for their disrespect. I'm not any under impression apart from the fact that the government continuously turned their noses up to their desperate right. And we elect these scumbags?


      I most certainly can castigate the Tory lap dogs of the f**king witch who instigated the masking of Hillsborough.
      Cameron et al waited until the witch was well out of the way and under the constraints of senility before he ''apologised''.
      Coincidentally he had little choice when the underlings in the conspiracy ie police officers, civil servants and chief inspectors were implicated.

      The juicy bits are in sight, higher ranking civil servants, MP's and the witch herself eventually.

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